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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMaya Angelou supported Obama, but she blasted his school reform policies.
It's possible to do both, and she did that. She joined 120 other authors in signing a strong letter to President Obama urging restraint on Race to the Top and high-stakes testing.
When Maya Angelou blasted Obamas school-reform policies
The legendary poet and author Maya Angelou, who just passed away at the age of 86, was a big supporter of President Obama, and in 2011, he awarded her the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nations highest civilian honor. But she also was a critic of his school-reform policies, raising her voice last year to blast his signature education initiative, Race to the Top, and expressing concern about the impact standardized testing was having on children.
Angelou was one of the more than 120 other authors and illustrators of books for children who signed a letter last October to Obama and said they were alarmed about the impact his standardized test-centric school-reform policies were having on childrens love reading and literature. The letter, organized by the National Center for Fair & Open Testing, said in part:
We are alarmed at the negative impact of excessive school testing mandates, including your administrations own initiatives, on childrens love of reading and literature. Recent policy changes by your Administration have not lowered the stakes. On the contrary, requirements to evaluate teachers on student test scores impose more standardized exams and crowd out exploration.
She later appeared on MSNBC and further explained her opposition.
A week later, she appeared on the MSNBC show Andrea Mitchell Reports and responded to questions about her opposition to Race to the Top, a multibillion-dollar competition run by the U.S. Education Department that allowed states and later individual school districts to vie for federal funds by promising to enact education reforms favored by the administration. Critics have charged that Race to the Top has led to increased high-stakes standardized testing because it requires states that win funds to evaluate teachers in part on student standardized test scores. She said:
Race To The Top feels to be more like a contest not what did you learn, but how much can you memorize.
Here are excerpts from the letter signed by the writers, and following it a list of the signers.
Top authors including Maya Angelou urge Obama to curb standardized testing
Dear President Obama,
We the undersigned childrens book authors and illustrators write to express our concern for our readers, their parents and teachers. We are alarmed at the negative impact of excessive school testing mandates, including your Administrations own initiatives, on childrens love of reading and literature. Recent policy changes by your Administration have not lowered the stakes. On the contrary, requirements to evaluate teachers based on student test scores impose more standardized exams and crowd out exploration.
We call on you to support authentic performance assessments, not simply computerized versions of multiple-choice exams. We also urge you to reverse the narrowing of curriculum that has resulted from a fixation on high-stakes testing.
.....This year has seen a growing national wave of protest against testing overuse and abuse. As the authors and illustrators of books for children, we feel a special responsibility to advocate for change. We offer our full support for a national campaign to change the way we assess learning so that schools nurture creativity, exploration, and a love of literature from the first day of school through high school graduation.
Then the complete list of signers follows.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)them Friends of Bush, continue to profit hugely from this horrendous 'education' program, America's children fall further and further and behind the rest of world. That doesn't seem to bother our 'leaders' for some reason.
That is the answer she got.
Angelou was correct in her assessment of the current education system in this country. And ironically, airc, from another of MF's excellent posts on this topic, Obama appears to agree with her, at least judging by his words. But his appointment of Duncan contradicts his own words.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)teaching?
Mr Duncan is continuing on the same path as before..I have not read about any changes.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)what he says he opposes. I even wondered, (CT Alert here) if he was trying to send a message to us, asking us in a subtle way to speak out and do whatever we can to oppose the policies. But then I realized that really WAS a CT. But it simply makes no sense for a President to have such clarity on a subject, at least verbally, while supporting by his actions, the exact opposite of what he is saying. I feel like Alice in Wonderland, sometimes!
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)I don't know if I agree that what Obama has said and then acted differently or I should
say indifferently, is puzzling any longer. When you look back on how he handled his position
at the Harvard Law review, it was a pragmatic approach to civil liberties, versus the impression
he gave while campaigning before '08 that he was a more staunch advocate..we have learned
differently on that subject too.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)As I keep saying, it's like a steamroller.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Different camps would have different explanations for that phenomenon.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)just unaware of what is going on. Neither is very good to contemplate. But sometimes I wonder if five or ten years after his time in office, he will read what went on during his presidency and wonder how that happened.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)and on...and on...and on...and on...
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)and never seems to stop.
nikto
(3,284 posts)Happening right out in the open, too.
merrily
(45,251 posts)So, did she wholeheartedly support Obama, or did she wholeheartedly support the Democratic nominee?
We'll never know.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Even though some of us differ on policy.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Couldn't do it in fact.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I had trouble supporting Bush also.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Ijust used to hear that a lot from Republicans during the Bush years, how I should have respect for the office and support the President, simply because he was President. I always replied that I had a lot of respect for the office. It was lovely. It was Bush I couldn't respect. I guess I had a flashback to that time.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)...."I think he has done a remarkable job, knowing how much he has been opposed," she says. "Every suggestion he makes, the Republicans en masse fight against him or don't vote at all." It's about him being a Democrat and being the first black president, she says.
Angelou worked with King in the 1960s as northern co-ordinator for the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and the pair debated the possibility of a black president. King said it would happen within 40 years. Angelou told him it would not happen in her lifetime. She was wrong; happily so.
Reflecting on that presidency, what did she expect? "I was hoping for the best. And I think I have gotten the best from him." What of his detractors? "Those are people who didn't see the morass into which he stepped."....
merrily
(45,251 posts)Did she ever say why she supported Hillary in 2008 and not Obama?
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I mean...she's not dead 24 hours and this is the thread you think is appropriate to post??
I contrast this with EarlG's thread, and I shake my head...Maya Angelou deserved something better from you.
daligirl519
(285 posts)doesn't it? However, very predictable.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...AnswerSheet. Reposting it here to share information is done with regularity by many DUers.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)But, I don't think it matters to some.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...disagree with you about that. Last time I checked, DU was a pretty inclusive Democratic discussion board.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)such foolishness....
Here's an example of what I mean...would you post educational critique from a reporter who revealed she was ignorant of modern critical theory?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024082337
To the Jury...the posting of prior threads is not against the TOS. In fact...admin has helpfully provided us with an "advanced search function" to facilitate precisely that.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Amazing how well you make my point for me.
You love to toss, but you can't catch. Stupid is as stupid does.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)and such a statement makes me doubt your intelligence, not hers.
and I think you are truly unknowing (polite euphemism) about educational issues in America today.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)can't recognize modern critical theory techniques are stupid, and are not erudite sources.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5021184
Is it too much to ask that an education reporter at least recognize modern critical theory before opining on it?
kwassa
(23,340 posts)oh please.
I am a current public school teacher. Theories change every two years in education, unfortunately. What you think you know from your past experience is no more. I would point out that there is little scientific evidence supporting anything in modern educational theory.
Please elucidate what you think you know.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Close reading, of course, being Talmudic-derived, is not exactly new..as you noted on the thread.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4083774
To the jury....citing older posts is not a violation of the TOS..and the advanced search function to the upper right of the page, helpfully provided by admin, facilitates that.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)To attack an idea is one thing. To attack a person is another.
I've read Valerie Strauss over time. Have you?
edit to add: Since you are attacking people, who is Jay Mathews, and how is he relevant to this conversation? If you don't know that, you have no sense of context.
Now Google Jay Mathews ....
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)Then you will have something to talk about.
edit to add:
Oh, what was your modern critical theory?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)Calling someone stupid hardly qualifies you as an expert in anything.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)respond to.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Now, who is Jay Mathews?
Riddle me that.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)Bottom line issues in current day education.
Two opponents, one heavily influential before the other rose.
Hey, I'm giving you hints, here! Who is Jay Mathews? Come one, you have this Google thing, don't you?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)So far, you show nothing.
You don't even recognize the players.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I get that you are not happy that I posted your own reply in that thread back to you, but seriously.....instead of trying to "test" me by asking me if I know who Jay Matthews is, why not ask a more focused question about the WaPo's inexplicable decision to retain him at all???
If, as you posit upthread, VS is an antidote to JM, then I think the WaPo is selling a false dichotomy.....and selling one side of the argument short.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)This is a discussion board; if you don't like the topic of discussion, why not bow out rather than send out underhanded insults?
I know a lot of teachers; they are unhappy with Obama.
You may think every single thing Obama has done is perfect and above reproach. Your right.
Insulting those here who hold other opinions, and pretending to be "in the know" on a certain aspect of an argument and then bailing when it gets too deep may make you seem petty and pedantic.
And that's my opinion
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)lot of difficulty understanding it. Businessmen, Bush cohorts, invented the current system of 'education' now being enhanced by this administration, not educators, BUSINESSMEN, not women MEN. MEN who had no clue about education, but they sure understood how to use public education funds to make a fortune, as they are still doing.
I have no idea what your point is, no Democrat I know EVER supported Bush's cynically named 'NCLB', for obvious reasons, which is why they voted for Dems. And what did they get for all their work, NCLB on steroids!!
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)It doesn't exist. Snark for snakiness and lots of self-aggrandizement.
We know these guys. You remember them from their bombast in the teacher workroom. Lots of self-congratulatory hooey.
And you are right. No Democrat supports NCLB or whatever name they tack on to it now. But a lot of democrats (as in reagan-democrats and centrists who pretend to think they are Democrats) find no reason to question the wisdom of the corporate class. They are too full of envy. They wish they were one.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)And that's the BIG problem, and the BIG lie. They are the 1% and they are protecting their own interests. Their kids are in private schools.
bigtree
(85,990 posts). . . not quite, for this place.
progressoid
(49,987 posts)Jeez - everyone knows that. Shame on Madflo. She's an embarrassment.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)It was all about the fact that she shot a gun...once...and thereby supported gun ownership. It was disgusting.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I'm really sick of dead people of color suddenly supporting whatever political agenda is on tap for the day. Next rightwing motherfucker tells me MLK would have hated equal marriage, I'm gonna scream.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Why is it inappropriate to revoice her championing of children's rights and the need for education. Her love of words and education are part of her enduring legacy. I think she would be glad to have any occasion to stand up to the CorpEd and its friends like arne.
Mad did a service to education, to Maya Angelou, and to DU.
Educate yourself.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Well said.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)at a king.
Last night I chose to write about my personal experience with Maya Angelou, devoid of agenda. I'm proud of that.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)involve any growth on your part? Or was it just another way to puff yourself up.
You are so not worthy to judge or question someone who knows more about this than you can ever understand.
(Oh. And I have cats. I know cats. I'm glad to call cats my friend. And you are no cat.)
Your buffoonery about the typo lets us all know just what kind of teacher you were. We have real bead on your years of "service" now. Sorry that my missing three fingers made a typo that bummed you out. (Look up what is generally thought of the level of intelligence of posters who try to make an argument by finding spelling errors or typos. Like I said: We see you now.)
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)question other posters.
I find that rather undemocratic, no?
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Maya Angelou opposed the President's education policy...that is a fact. Does attempting to parse that fact that she did not
not agree with his direction on education 'honor' her...in any way? It does not. She supported Obama, but, despised his education policy. Reasonable people can accept thbat.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)This one has no opinion (or knowledge) about education issues and what is happening to our children and schools. Just crapping where he shouldn't and refusing to apologize.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Do you actually want to take a position on the president's actions regarding education? Do you actually know anything at all about the OP that you blundered into? Do you have a point other than your own twisting of the issue where you try to avoid admitting that you are clueless?
A good step would be to apologize to the writer of the OP, to the DUers who actually give a damn about our nation's schools, an to the children you insult with your drivel. Then you could educate yourself on the subject before you spout off again. That would be the good and smart thing to do.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)why you would want my opinion on anything.
Now, there might be other women of your acquaintance you have called stupid and who have continued to answer your questions, but this is one female who has enough self-respect to decline.
And don't you agree with that? No woman should countenance and enable such insults by answering the questions of the person who called her "stupid."
This makes you only the second poster on DU whose questions I refuse to answer.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Show me where I called you stupid.
I didn't think you would do the right or the smart thing. You had a chance and you changed the topic and played victim. Poor baby.
Of course you refuse to answer. Answer one way and you show you support republican, neocon attacks on children and their schools. Answer another way and you show you posted your snarky reply to the OP without information and that you avoid honor by not apologizing.
So huff up and play the poor victim. You know better. So do we.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)your post..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5023382
If I did, I will apologize, gladly.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Stupid can be a condition (sarah palin) or it can be an action. Calling out a respected and learned DUer for standing up for children and American schools because you have a bug up your pants is a stupid action. The condition of being stupid means that there is little you can do about it. If one is stupid, one just stumbles on, usually digging oneself deeper. If it is a stupid action, one can learn and grow. One can try to atone and repair that situation. One can.
I have done stupid things before. When I realize I did so, I did my best to apologize. I have had to do a lot of apologizing and a lot of repairing. But I'm not stupid.
You did a stupid thing. You should apologize.
I await the promised apology for your misinterpretation. But first you owe MadFloridian, teachers, and DU acknowledgement that you screwed up. That would indicate growth.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)madflordian is an educator, a Democrat, and a staunch supporter of the Democractic party. She is angry about the fact that the the party she supports is abandoning its promise to support public education. I, like the vast majority of Americans, attended public schools, and did very well...without constant testing. So, if resources are limited, where should they be spent? On testing, or on educating? And for kids who are not being educated...how does testing help them?
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)The text of you post did not jibe with your headline.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)She walked her talk, and she did not cave...ever.
roody
(10,849 posts)Angelou's wisdom.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I have great respect for both President Obama and Maya Angelou. I do strongly disagree with the president's education policy. So did Maya Angelou. However she respected and supported the president also.
I never expected to be accused of misusing her legacy by posting this. It is her love of literature for children, and my love of it as a teacher that prompted the post.
She and the other 120 childrens' authors who signed the letter to the president realize that there will be little time left after testing practice for the teachers to read to the little ones.
My primary classes had reading time every day when I or a parent read a book or story to them. It was the highlight of their day in most cases, especially in the impoverished area where I taught my last few years.
Children's books were all around the class at all times. It was part of our days.
I was just reading California Peggy's great post about the place of DU in her life.
It has meant a lot of many of us through the years, and I have been here since 2002. That's almost 12 years.
But I don't know how to cope with knowing that I must await the inevitable stuff I call "gotcha".
progressoid
(49,987 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Thanks. back.
Everyone says it's the internet, you have to be tough. Guess I'm not very tough anymore.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)I lack your grace in these situations. Don't get tough. Your feelings are what make your posts valuable. Those ignorant posters that refuse to learn, to understand, to admit their blindness will always attack and attack. But don't become as hard-souled at they are. Or as snippy and burned out as I am.
Keep teaching. Even when they dolts at the back of the room are playing with their phones and playing gotcha. The rest of the class will benefit.
TBF
(32,053 posts)Many of us generally support Obama while questioning individual policies. I question the intelligence and integrity of those who blindly march lockstep to anyone.
Thank you.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)And even be good friends with him...and still oppose some of his policies? you mean you do not have to defend the indefensible and cheer on anything he does without being a racist or a hater or an emofirebagger?
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I mean exactly that.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)FloriTexan
(838 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)the argument. They don't have to have anything at all to do with the topic at hand, just a way to make sure you are keeping records in case.
If I were the only one a certain person did this to, I would be upset. But it's being directed toward others as well.
And...BTW...this appears to be another site that is being denigrated here. Like other bloggers, other websites. The WP's Valerie Strauss...discredited here for posting the educator's point of view and not the reformers.
Think about it...keep a list of others' posts so you can grab one when needed to try to make them look bad. It's bound to at least irritate the person into hesitating to post much because of what older post might be dragged up.
It used to be called "calling out" here, and it was discouraged. In fact it was not acceptable. Now it is, and we either wait and see what post from the past is reposted what day or we don't post.
It's called "gotcha".
I would defend Valerie Strauss today, but it is too discouraging to even try.
And no, I didn't alert...I don't alert anymore at all. I think only twice in DU3. But I did a search today, and it a tactic being used against quite a few people here now. That's a shame.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)inactions. Why do people act as though blacks have to be monolithic, unthinking, and non-critical when it comes to this President...or any other President for that matter?
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)is like that when pundits discuss minority groups, in general. For example, many of the talking heads have been touching on Latinos and immigration so much that one would likely think that is the only issue that the average person of Latin American background cares about and/or votes on. Nevermind other topics like jobs and health care.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)who are on the board of the charter school. McKeel is head of appropriations, and one county got far less than the charters after 2 years of getting nothing for public schools.
Thanks for the link.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Just for the record.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Speak truth to power.
Obama has done much good, but also has cow-towed to malevolent interests, especially concerning the War on Drugs, education and Monsanto.
No person can be perfect, but this president can be better.
Maya was not too blinded by adoration to call him to account.
That's honesty, integrity and true strength right there...
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Thanks for that. Your words so true, she had " honesty, integrity and true strength right there."
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)And you're welcome. I know teachers who are just dejected and grieving right now over what is happening in education.
They are being treated like pawns, all their creativity and years of experience flushed down the Common Core, Charter school toilet.
My heart goes out to all teachers fighting the stupidity.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)So many I taught with who are still teaching are seeing their careers up in the air for no fault of their own.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)ancianita
(36,031 posts)I'm glad she took a hard stance against his education policies. I loved teaching her poetry and book, and showing videos of her. She is a great American treasure.