That one time, when I got misandried...

[DetlefK]

found on sinfest.net
The male protagonist is a lonesome, cynical sexist who's trying to change to win over the female protagonist, an outspoken feminist he's secretly in love with. (Plus a background-story about God and the devil bickering with each other and trying to cope with their fanatic fanboys.)

[intaglio]

1. I always rec Sinfest n/t

[leftyohiolib]

2. i see mysoginy is a crisis and misandry is the butt of jokes

im shocked , shocked i tell you to see a double standard on.u.

[bettyellen]

3. Lacking cultural context? See a lot of this here.

[DetlefK]

5. Do have an example of misandry?

Not those extremist rantings by women which were posted in the other thread on DU. I mean a real case where you were treated differently by women because you were a man and not a woman?

[leftyohiolib]

7. if we're ignoring extremists rantings by women then let's ignore the rantings extremist men

it is hypocritical to rage about mysogyny and then make fun of misandry regardless of examples

[Spider Jerusalem]

12. What "rantings of extremist men"?

Like these guys: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jul/29/labour-mp-stella-creasy-twitter-rape-threats
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/twitter-trolls-send-mary-beard-2123303
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/418265/EXCLUSIVE-Twitter-rape-abuse-victim-left-terrified-by-late-night-harassment-at-her-home
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2013/07/30/twitter-ignores-rape-threats-aimed-anita-sarkeesian
http://www.xojane.co.uk/it-happened-to-me/janelle-asselin-comic-book-rape-threats

You know, I can find hundreds if not thousands of women who've received threats of physical violence, rape and death for the crime of being a woman on the Internet with an opinion. If you can show me a single man who's received anything like this from women? Just one? Then you might have some sort of point. As it is? You're really being rather ridiculous.

[leftyohiolib]

13. i never said they didnt exist nor am i justifying anything they said and no woman should

recv crap like that. try reading the entire little thread calmly without any preconcieved ideas

[Skittles]

22. YOU LOST

[leftyohiolib]

25. ok nt

[gollygee]

6. Uhm because misogyny gets people killed

and misandry is something people say when their feeligns are hurt.

[leftyohiolib]

8. agreed cause women never kill men

[gollygee]

10. yeah cause that's what I said

[leftyohiolib]

11. what you said was misogyny kills and misandry doesnt and you are wrong

"misandry is what is said when people's feelings are hurt". not only are you wrong but sexist as well

[Spider Jerusalem]

14. ONE example of a man receiving threats of personal violence or rape for having an opinion?

Just one. I can show you dozens or hundreds of examples of women who've received that, from men. If "misandry" is as much of a problem as you claim? You should be able to find just ONE example of it where a man was on the receiving end.

[leftyohiolib]

15. again that isnt what im saying but im sure all the men killed by women have heard similar things

but that isnt the point since that isnt what im saying.

[Spider Jerusalem]

17. You're talking a lot of nonsensical bullshit, from what I can see

here, some numbers for you, US homicides, 2010: Number of women killed by men: 1698 (of which 603 were murders of wives by their husbands). Number of men killed by women: 405 (of which 110 were murders of husbands by their wives). So: Four times as many women killed by men as men killed by women, and almost six times as many women killed by their spouses as men.

[leftyohiolib]

18. ok but i havent said anything yet (to you anyway) but it seems like you arent interested in what

i said or what the this little thread was about but you got your numbers out so now that that is done maybe you want to go back and try to figure out what was being said and you can address that if you feel like it.

[Spider Jerusalem]

19. Yes, "misandry" is hilarious and anyone who thinks it's a real thing is stupid.

There' I've addressed that. Feel better now? Women killing men isn't "misandry" because we don't live in a culture that teaches women that they're better than men and that they have a right to expect to treat men like property; we don't live in a society where men interacting in online spaces feel the need to hide their gender; we don't live in a society where men have to worry about whether it's safe to walk home, or whether someone may have put something in their drink, or whether it's safe to be alone in a room with this person they've just met; we don't live in a society where fundamentalist preachers tell men it's their duty to be subservient to their wives...I could keep going, but you probably get the point.

[leftyohiolib]

21. since we're name calling someone who thinks like that could be considered sexist and hypocritical

misogyny ,or the hatred of women, is as real as misandry ,or the hatred of men, men who are abused by their women are as fearful of them as you describe. people who find abuse hilarious has a problem and your finding misandry hilarious makes you guilty of it.

btw there are ways to safe guard yourself if you dont feel safe walking home get a cab afraid someone might spike your punch dont go out/leave without a friend. afraid to be alone in a room with someone you just met why would you do that anyway. fundamentalists tell their men crap well you know not to date a fundamentalist man. these victim scenarios you describe are self made . i know that men do abuse women but women do it to men and to deny that IS misandry

[Jamastiene]

26. You are basically saying if anything happens to a woman,

she is at fault for not being careful enough. Why do you think women should have to walk around on eggshells our entire lives? That's bullshit. It is another way of saying she was asking for it and deserved it for not walking on eggshells so as to not attracted the attention of rapists.

[geek tragedy]

30. "these victim scenarios you describe are self made ."

this is textbook rape apologism, victim-blaming misogyny

it's men like you that try to force women to wear burkas.

btw there are ways to safe guard yourself if you dont feel safe walking home get a cab afraid someone might spike your punch dont go out/leave without a friend. afraid to be alone in a room with someone you just met why would you do that anyway. fundamentalists tell their men crap well you know not to date a fundamentalist man. these victim scenarios you describe are self made .

This is really indefensible. Hopefully the misogynists are over at discussionist and won't be able to bail you out for this rancid, toxic misogyny.

[Jamastiene]

33. It's like they used a lot of words to say if a woman is a victim,

she was asking for it. Apparently, women should walk on eggshells and accept that as our lot in life.

[geek tragedy]

36. everything is always a woman's fault to that kind of 'man' nt

[Starry Messenger]

31. Or men could just not attack and rape women.

And women could live lives as actual citizens, who could do all the same things that men feel all right about doing.

[geek tragedy]

32. amazing coincidence how active practicioners of rape apologism/rape culture

are the loudest complainers about misandry, no?

[Starry Messenger]

34. It blows my mind, but it is always there, like clockwork.

Women have all the power in society except when we should fucking watch ourselves and make sure we don't wear short skirts or walk alone in the dark, because MANHATER!!11

[geek tragedy]

38. not all of the misogynists left for discussionist, unfortunately nt

[geek tragedy]

37. alert results (and yes, the jury system still is a joke at DU)

n Thu May 29, 2014, 09:50 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

since we're name calling someone who thinks like that could be considered sexist and hypocritical
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5020644

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

"these victim scenarios are self made" this is explicit victim-blaming, rape apologism, and misogyny.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Thu May 29, 2014, 10:02 PM, and voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I didn't see any of that in this post.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Hide AND send the posterback to grade school to learn to write a ccoherent sentence.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter seems to want to censor speech that they disagree with.

Juror #1: blaming women for getting raped is pure misogyny . Educate yourself./
Juror #7: blatant rape apologism and misogyny should not be welcome here.

[Skittles]

23. show us where women kill men for refusing to have sex

WE'RE WAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTINNNNNNNG

[leftyohiolib]

24. so just being killed is not enough it has to be a certain kind of killed. wow this sounds familiar

something to do with a birth certificate..... just cant think of it .... it's like on the tip of my tongue...... damn

[NuclearDem]

35. Lolwut

[Skittles]

39. ugh, done here

the only way you'll EVERY get it is if you have a daughter

[geek tragedy]

28. people treat important issues that affect lives with greater importance than they do trivial issues

that's not a double standard, that's sanity

misandry is a teeny, tiny, itsy, bitsy nothing of an issue

[Xyzse]

4. I love Sinfest.

[Lunacee_2013]

9. Sinfest is great.

It was a little iffy in the beginning, but it has gotten better since then.

I think understanding why misogyny is a much bigger problem then misandry is in our culture is a great place for anyone new to feminism to start. It's like the difference between racism and "reverse racism".

[AverageJoe90]

16. Mostly agree, though:

It's like the difference between racism and "reverse racism".

Well, just one problem with this: "Reverse racism" doesn't actually exist, because for there to be a "reverse", it would require that so-called "normal" racism be the exclusive property of a single group. But it never has been.....no, not even in this country(in other words, yes, anyone can be racist on a personal level, at least).

Hatred against men is real, though. It may be quite rare but unlike "reverse racism", it does exist.

[Laelth]

20. Hard for me to imagine how this is helpful in any way.

If there is something positive that can come from this thread, I'd like to know what that is.



-Laelth

[Jester Messiah]

27. Sinfest used to be great.

Then the artist got a SJW girlfriend and went full Tumblr. His art's still pretty good, but all the funny is gone.

[Starry Messenger]

29. k&r