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TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
Thu May 29, 2014, 06:02 PM May 2014

Dumbass Neocon Talking Point of the Week: "How Long Did We Leave Troops In Japan/Germany?"

Okay, as soon as President Obama announced that all troops would be out of Afghanistan by the end of the year, I heard the same talking point appear on several different 'panel' discussions, simultaneously. So, I figure it must have been circulated in a right-wing talking points bulletin. Since it's a particularly STUPID talking point, I can't believe they're actually running with it.

Predictably, it goes something like this. A right winger on the panel will say it's too soon for us to leave, followed by a left winger saying "well how long SHOULD we stay," followed by the right wing talking point "How long did we leave troops in Japan and Germany after WWII?" (In fact, I just saw Charles "Dracula" Krauthhammer say exactly that. That Japan and Germany were the best examples of the US Army 'stabilizing' a country after a war, and we left troops there for over 50 years. US troops are STILL in Germany.)

You can see it appear here, at the 6:30 mark, for example:
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/05/bloody-bill-kristol-loses-his-mind-over


Uh...is nobody going to call them on this dumbass talking point? Hello: We did NOT leave troops in Germany and Japan (or Korea) to STABILIZE THE COUNTRY, you idiots. We occupied those countries after WWII, and the process of stabilization was over in a matter of MONTHS. We then proceeded to LEAVE troops there for the next 50 years as a deterrent to the SOVIET UNION. It had absolutely nothing to do with stabilizing those countries.

I'm surprised the only person to call a neocon on this bullshit talking point was Peter Beinart, who called William "The Bloody" Kristol on it on Crossfire, and even HE didn't do a particularly good job of it.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/05/bloody-bill-kristol-loses-his-mind-over

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Dumbass Neocon Talking Point of the Week: "How Long Did We Leave Troops In Japan/Germany?" (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 May 2014 OP
The liars dont need to have coherent talking points, remember who the target is randys1 May 2014 #1
True, but I'd like to see more people call them on it on the spot. The way Beinart did. nt. TrollBuster9090 May 2014 #2
OK, someone needs to remind these dumbasses that Germany and Japan are not war zones all american girl May 2014 #3
Given that neocons get most of their world view from watching Ronald Reagan acting in old WWII TrollBuster9090 May 2014 #4
Thanks for the laugh...sad but true. all american girl May 2014 #5

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. The liars dont need to have coherent talking points, remember who the target is
Thu May 29, 2014, 06:07 PM
May 2014

The dumbest american is the one who watches fox news...think about it

The talking point could be

Bleb, gorn to4 dakhta nachos, Obama bad...and they would agree

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
3. OK, someone needs to remind these dumbasses that Germany and Japan are not war zones
Thu May 29, 2014, 06:27 PM
May 2014

My husband is in the Army and we have lived in both Germany and Japan. I have also been to Korea (girls trip ). Never did I feel like I was in a war zone....because it isn't. I can't tolerate stupidity.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
4. Given that neocons get most of their world view from watching Ronald Reagan acting in old WWII
Thu May 29, 2014, 06:35 PM
May 2014

movies on late night TV, it wouldn't surprise me if they DID think Germany is still a war zone. (Nice user icon, btw. I'm a big fan of Melies.)

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