Which is more right wing?

[MannyGoldstein]

39 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
	Cartoons containing President Obama and a teleprompter
	1 (3%)
	The Trans-Pacific Partnership effort
	38 (97%)
	Other (please share)
	0 (0%)
	1 DU member did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[BillZBubb]

1. Other

Attacking Snowden and not the NSA (and the whole surveillance state establishment).

[Gravitycollapse]

2. This is honestly a stupid question.

[Skittles]

4. no it isn't

[Gravitycollapse]

6. What is the point of trying to discern which is "more right wing?"

[Skittles]

8. you've completely missed the point

it's an observation of the state of DU, when a certain group of posters excuses the most sickening, destructive actions but gets their panties in a wad over a fucking cartoon

[JI7]

9. it's a racist cartoon , it's not just any cartoon, it wasn't just some cartoon with Obama with Big

Ears .

the telepromter thing is racist and it's attack is on an entire people based on race. to attack this president over something that others regularly use. just like they attack his family for having secret service protection.

[Skittles]

10. your interpretation

not everyone sees it that way

[JI7]

11. as i said before, it's like saying this cartoon is about eating fruit and being healthy

[Skittles]

12. not even close

[JI7]

13. why would people attack this Pres for using it even though every other pres and most politicians

use it ?

[Skittles]

16. BECAUSE THEY CANNOT ATTACK HIS SPEECHES

now get past what THEY think and try to understand the ACTUAL CARTOON

[BuelahWitch]

17. Probably to nullify the fact that he can deliver a speech better than George II

It doesn't really work, as George used a teleprompter too, and still managed to screw his up. It's really a minor dis with no bearing in reality. You really shouldn't get so overwrought about such things.

[JI7]

19. so why wasn't it used against others who can deliver a better speech than him ?

[MannyGoldstein]

33. Yes, of course that's the same as teleprompter jokes.

Drink lots of water and get some sleep.

[muriel_volestrangler]

48. If you'd said that before, I presume people also told you then it's a useless comparison

Watermelons have long been used as part of racist jokes. Teleprompters have not.

[BuelahWitch]

14. How is using a teleprompter racist? That's a real stretch

The watermelon cartoon I can see, but if I am wrong, people of all races might use a teleprompter. Old W couldn't even speechificate with one, but he used it. The cartoonists also drew George II with big ears. If he's AA it's news to me...

[JI7]

15. how is being born in kenya racist ? how is asking for a birth certificate racist ?

yes everyone uses the telepromter but it's been regularly used as an attack on this President.

[BuelahWitch]

20. Sneering at someone for using a teleprompter is not in and of itself racist

No one mentioned the other until you did just now. Your peers need to teach you how to argue better.

[JI7]

21. asking for a birth certificate is not racist in itself either

[Skittles]

18. it's a waste of time

believe me

[BuelahWitch]

22. I guess so

At least they're kicking Manny's thread.

[NuclearDem]

26. The teleprompter meme is a lot of things, but it isn't racist.

Sure, maybe it's implying that Obama isn't terrific at making speeches without it, but that isn't racist, it's just stupid in face of evidence to the contrary.

[Union Scribe]

32. What's your stance on the TPP? nt

[Doctor_J]

49. probably that complaints about TPP are racist

The dinos and the BOG have kind of made a tactical retreat to a position from where they shout racist at any criticism of the president. It's demeaning to everyone that this is happening

[OnyxCollie]

36. Zealots going apeshit over a cartoon.

It's happened before.

[sabrina 1]

24. No, it isn't. It's a great question.

[joshcryer]

3. Now someone remake the poll with "which is more racist?"

[nikto]

7. Somebody with the ability to make polls...

Should make a poll where everybody could react to Obama's policies, 1 by 1.


Include:
Education/Charter schools/Race-to-the-Top
Drones
Wall st/financial policy/Geitner/Paulson
Iraq/Afghanistan withdrawal
Voting rights
Medical Cannabis
Trade Deals
NSA metaspying
Renewable energy
Iran (resisting war)
Syria (not bombing)
Climate change
Response to Occupy protests
Immigration
Child/school nutrition
Keystone Pipeline
Gay marriage/Gay rights in general
ACA
Support for Labor Unions
Minimum wage
Net Neutrality (Tom Wheeler's appointment, etc)
1 or 2 other issues (I'm sure I missed something)
================================================================ -----
Such a poll would give folks the chance to agree/disagree
with Obama's policies on a case-by-case basis.

How about it?

[OnyxCollie]

37. Start a poll thread.

You've already written it.

[nikto]

44. I can't start a poll because I'm not a "star" member

[Enthusiast]

40. Do it.

I would welcome a chance to help illustrate how out of the mainstream this administration is headed.

Nothing short of wholesale condemnation of the Obama Administration by Democrats can turn this ship of state around. And even then.

[sheshe2]

23. Stirring the pot. nt

[sabrina 1]

25. It's not Manny who is stirring the pot. That dog has run. Now we need to figure out what to do about

it. And we are!

[sheshe2]

28. Okiedokie~

[MannyGoldstein]

30. Which transgression am I ~guilty of this time?

No doubt it's awful, whatever it is.

[davidthegnome]

27. Just because no one else voted for it.

NT

[OnyxCollie]

39. Just like Charlie Brown picking the littlest tree.

(((Aww...)))

[bravenak]

29. You need more options on the poll.

I want more options. You usually have better options.

Do not ask me about the TPP.i hate trade deals because i think we suck at them. I prefer to just give America back to the Natives and ask them what to do and beg them not to deport us.

[PowerToThePeople]

34. Where would we be if our ancestors

did not "believe in (their own) exceptionalism with every fibre of their being" ?

Maybe if they would have taken the time to fucking learn from Native Americans how to live with nature, the world would not now be fucked up to the point of a near term human extinction events.

[bravenak]

35. Yes.

So true, indeed. We do not know what we are doing.
My mother thinks we are going to kill each other off through various means and only mostly aboriginal people will be able to survive and repopulate the earth. I believe her. She keeps farming manuals and nursing manuals just in case whoever survives needs them.

[defacto7]

42. Without a doubt.

Following the best in human nature not the worst, having respect for the earth, not ownership and greed.

[Union Scribe]

31. And anyone who supports TPP.

It's funny as hell watching people who openly advocate FTAs huff and puff about other people being unDemocratic.

[Enthusiast]

38. Nailed it, Manny.

Once again.

[DeSwiss]

41. Oh!

I thought you said something else.....



- Actually, now I come to think about it, this guy might be all the extremes we're looking for. And a cartoon.

K&R

[betsuni]

43. Obviously the cartoon

Because it's not based on anything that actually exists and is really, really stupid.

[pampango]

45. US right wing or European right wing?

The European right strongly opposes trade deals with the US (as well as immigration, the EU and pretty much anything else that has anything to do with foreigners.) The US far right (tea party edition) opposes the UN, the WTO, TPP and TTIP, immigration reform and pretty much anything else that has anything to do with foreigners. I suspect the Asian right feels the same way as their American and European 'brothers'.

Marine Le Pen to meet other far-right leaders in move to create anti-EU bloc

France's Front National leader Marine Le Pen will meet other far-right and eurosceptic leaders on Wednesday in an attempt to create a powerful bloc in the European parliament.

Le Pen insisted the party's score was an unqualified victory despite an abstention rate of 57%. She demanded that France call a halt to talks between the European Union and the United States to create a vast free market, known as the Transatlantic Trade Treaty.

"I clearly call on the president of the Republic, firstly the dissolution of the Assemblée Nationale, because you know it is no longer at all representative of the French people," Le Pen said.

"I also demand that he does three things to take Sunday's vote into account: firstly, France halts the transatlantic treaty, secondly, France states its veto of Turkey's entry into the European Union and, thirdly, he nationalises Alstom, contrary to the rules of the European Union, to save this strategic company."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/27/marine-le-pen-met-far-right-leaders-eu-bloc

[MannyGoldstein]

51. Good point.

Traditional US Left vs. Right. Today's US "Right" is simply nuts rather than having a coherent ideology, IMHO.

[Scuba]

46. Manny - regularly exposing the hypocrisy and zealotry of folks while making me laugh.

Much appreciated.

[Octafish]

47. You sure know how to cut through the red tape, MannyGoldstein.

Good writer, too.

[alsame]

50. Bravo!