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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe fact that Martin was found face down seems to mean one of two things:
He was shot in the back and fell, landing face down.
Or he was shot in the chest, and landed on his back. And then Zimmerman would have had to turn him over.
Why would he have done that?
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Quixote1818
(28,929 posts)He clearly falls back, however I suppose it's possible Trayvon could have spun around and fallen back but on his front side? Notice how the guy in the video seems to spin.
Wow! And if this doesn't make you think of Trayvon I don't know what would! Look how the child seems to be pleading for his life:
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However, again he doesn't even fall down but tries to get away from the man who is shooting at him.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Fla_Democrat
(2,547 posts)Quincy ME?
I guess the possibility of being shot in the chest, falling to your knees and collapsing is just too 'make believe'.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)So I suppose that's three possibilities
Quixote1818
(28,929 posts)Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)Taking your arms out from under your body would have been the first thing freed if a roll happen. And when you fall face first the first thing you do is try to brace the fall with your arms. He didn't, telling me he was dead before he even hit the ground.
Quixote1818
(28,929 posts)which is very common when someone is aiming at your chest.
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)He could have been holding his chest where the blood was coming out. And this still could have been the exit wound he was holding.
garybeck
(9,942 posts)n/t
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)it was probably wishful thinking as much as anything else.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)At this point, they won't say if he was shot from the front or the rear. So we're just speculating and they won't tell.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Or do those who've already convicted Zimmerman of murder one not know?
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)I don't think we know yet.. at least I dont.
Raine
(30,540 posts)too many things they know nothing about and it's going to cause nothing but trouble IMO.
onenote
(42,699 posts)There are plenty of instances in which some one is shot from the front and ends up face down. Google it, if you don't believe me.
The more relevant question is what positions were Zimmerman and Trayvon in at the time the shot was fired. If Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman, one possibility would be that he pitched forward, but then Zimmerman would have to get out from under him and would be covered in blood. Or Trayvon might have pitched backwards, even tried to stand and then fell forward. Of pretty much anything in between. I'm having trouble, however, with the idea that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman when the shot was fired. Not buying that version at all.
hexola
(4,835 posts)Witness called to Zimm a few times before he responded, "Just call 911"...
No link sorry...
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Of course we won't know until the autopsy report is released along with the gun powder residue results. But all the witnesses and the police said Martin was lying face down with his hands underneath him when he was found.
One thing we know for sure, Zimmerman lied about giving aid to Trayvon after he was shot. Not only did witnesses say he never gave aid, but how can u even give aid when the person you're supposedly giving aid to is face down with his hands underneath him? So many lies, yet this punk is still free.
kudzu22
(1,273 posts)There are way more than two possibilities. Martin could have taken a few steps before collapsing face first. Most shooting victims don't die instantly where they stand. I don't think the position of the body says much about the circumstances of the shooting.
Too much hollywood in general. IIRC the stats correctly, something like only 20% of gunshots are fatal, and rarely as seen on tv / movies where someone just collapses.
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)He may have been holding his chest when he was still standing and died while standing holding his chest. His arms were underneath his body. He could have died while standing up and then his arms fell down in front of himself after when he landed face down. That's instant enough of a death.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)manage to think of more than two possibilities.
seattleblah
(69 posts)I noticed that they often fall face down. I don't know why, but maybe that's why this child ended-up face down.