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marmar

(77,072 posts)
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:46 AM Jun 2014

Why boarding schools produce bad leaders


Why boarding schools produce bad leaders
The elite tradition is to send children away at a young age to be educated. But future politicians who suffer this 'privileged abandonment' often turn out as bullies or bumblers. A psychotherapist explains why

Nick Duffell
The Guardian, Monday 9 June 2014


In Britain, the link between private boarding education and leadership is gold-plated. If their parents can afford it, children are sent away from home to walk a well-trodden path that leads straight from boarding school through Oxbridge to high office in institutions such as the judiciary, the army, the City and, especially, government. Our prime minister was only seven when he was sent away to board at Heatherdown preparatory school in Berkshire. Like so many of the men who hold leadership roles in Britain, he learned to adapt his young character to survive both the loss of his family and the demands of boarding school culture. The psychological impact of these formative experiences on Cameron and other boys who grow up to occupy positions of great power and responsibility cannot be overstated. It leaves them ill-prepared for relationships in the adult world and the nation with a cadre of leaders who perpetuate a culture of elitism, bullying and misogyny affecting the whole of society.

Nevertheless, this golden path is as sure today as it was 100 years ago, when men from such backgrounds led us into a disastrous war; it is familiar, sometimes mocked, but taken for granted. But it is less well known that costly, elite boarding consistently turns out people who appear much more competent than they actually are. They are particularly deficient in non-rational skills, such as those needed to sustain relationships, and are not, in fact, well-equipped to be leaders in today's world

I have been doing psychotherapy with ex-boarders for 25 years and I am a former boarding-school teacher and boarder. My pioneering study of privileged abandonment always sparks controversy: so embedded in British life is boarding that many struggle to see beyond the elitism and understand its impact. The prevalence of institutionalised abuse is finally emerging to public scrutiny, but the effects of normalised parental neglect are more widespread and much less obvious. Am I saying, then, that David Cameron, and the majority of our ruling elite, were damaged by boarding?

It's complex. My studies show that children survive boarding by cutting off their feelings and constructing a defensively organised self that severely limits their later lives. Cameron, Boris Johnson, Jeremy Hunt, Andrew Mitchell, Oliver Letwin et al tick all the boxes for being boarding-school survivors. For socially privileged children are forced into a deal not of their choosing, where a normal family-based childhood is traded for the hothousing of entitlement. Prematurely separated from home and family, from love and touch, they must speedily reinvent themselves as self-reliant pseudo-adults. ......................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/jun/09/boarding-schools-bad-leaders-politicians-bullies-bumblers



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Why boarding schools produce bad leaders (Original Post) marmar Jun 2014 OP
K&R treestar Jun 2014 #1
du rec. xchrom Jun 2014 #2
I was going to argue against this... Chan790 Jun 2014 #3
FDR went to boarding school. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #4
He also had polio. sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #7
It hit him in 1921, when he was 39 years old. JHB Jun 2014 #18
He also had Eleanor. Downwinder Jun 2014 #23
Some general exceptions probably apply Bibliovore Jun 2014 #5
Boarding School damage Legender75 Jun 2014 #6
of course. You were 5. cali Jun 2014 #10
The article in the OP is about sending young children to boarding school. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #16
the article title does NOT say that it's about young children and most people cali Jun 2014 #22
Subtitle: "The elite tradition is to send children away at a young age to be educated." csziggy Jun 2014 #28
Surely you read beyond the title before responding. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #29
Thanks for sharing your insight Kber Jun 2014 #17
Emotionally damaged, parentally rejected children grow to be bad leaders? Generic Brad Jun 2014 #8
sure- if you send a kid away at age 7 to 12 or 14, but beyond that? cali Jun 2014 #9
Not to mention the smaller boys get raped a lot. AngryAmish Jun 2014 #11
Welcome to DU, Legender 75 ~ Love that old time wisdom toby jo Jun 2014 #12
Interesting. Romney and Bush also seem to spooky3 Jun 2014 #13
JFK went to Choate cali Jun 2014 #14
There are always exceptions and statistically, spooky3 Jun 2014 #19
uh, how do you know these are the exceptions. it's nonsense to make that claim cali Jun 2014 #20
The author has been studying and working with spooky3 Jun 2014 #24
yes, children who are sent away to school at a very young age. not the same thing as cali Jun 2014 #30
John Kennedy, Franklin Roosevelt and John Kerry went to boarding schools. former9thward Jun 2014 #15
K&R woo me with science Jun 2014 #21
The true problem is the idea that the wealthy and privileged are born to rule BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #25
...and to have as little as possible to do with their offspring Warpy Jun 2014 #31
I think there is a huge difference between a 7 year old being sent off pnwmom Jun 2014 #26
Exactly. The article and the documentry linked- which I watched as well, detail the vanlassie Jun 2014 #27
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
3. I was going to argue against this...
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 11:08 AM
Jun 2014

then I remembered I went to prep-school and lived at home.

Then I also remembered the boarding-school kids that we often sported against and how they were all "Lord of the Flies" savage--cruel, sociopathic, guileful and predatory upon their weaker peers.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
18. It hit him in 1921, when he was 39 years old.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 12:26 PM
Jun 2014

As for "who knows?", it's not as if the man doesn't have biographies available, from multiple biographers and in detail.

There may be something to the boarding-school theory (it actually seems likely to me), but that would be "on average", not everybody who goes to one.

Bibliovore

(185 posts)
5. Some general exceptions probably apply
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 11:36 AM
Jun 2014

Deaf people born into hearing households often feel very isolated at home -- a lot have few if any people around them who know how to sign, if they were even exposed to sign themselves. Many talk about going to a Deaf institution / boarding school as initially hugely traumatic (can you imagine being dropped off somewhere by your family when they can't even communicate where you are or what's happening or whether you'll ever see them again?) but then hugely empowering: Being among a lot of other people who can actually talk with them is amazing, as is a school environment where they can understand what's being said, participate directly in class discussions, and much more.

That would seriously change the psychological medium of boarding school, to say the least. And Deaf people probably aren't the only general exceptions, just the ones I'm most immediately aware of. And, of course, not all boarding schools are the same.

 

Legender75

(6 posts)
6. Boarding School damage
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 11:43 AM
Jun 2014

I went to boarding school at age 5 - a decision that my father's family thought was the most optional given that my father had no home and my mother was not allowed to have anything to do with me (!!!)
And I can attest that that experience scarred me for life. It wasn't being bombed or being moved around from home to home for 2-3 years, it was being incarcerated, for six years, together with 9 other little girls, in a large house that was converted into a boarding school. I can look at pictures of me before that time when I am laughing and obviously at ease with myself, and then look at the few pictures I have afterwards when I am standing and taking up the smallest space I can in the world. And yes, being in a relationship has never worked. I tried, many times. Now, in my 70s I can look back on many deep and enduring friendships, but no intimate relationship.
I agree. Boarding School is immensely and permanently damaging.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. of course. You were 5.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 11:52 AM
Jun 2014

not good for small children, but you can't compare your experience with that of a teen.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
16. The article in the OP is about sending young children to boarding school.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jun 2014

It's not about sending your high school age student to Choate or Phillips Exeter or Simon's Rock.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
22. the article title does NOT say that it's about young children and most people
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jun 2014

responding don't seem to differentiate.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
28. Subtitle: "The elite tradition is to send children away at a young age to be educated."
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jun 2014

From the first paragraph"
"Our prime minister was only seven when he was sent away to board at Heatherdown preparatory school in Berkshire."

The closing paragraph calls for ending early boarding:
"To change our politics, we'll have to change our education system. Today, most senior clinicians recognise boarding syndrome, several of whom recently signed a letter to the Observer calling for the end of early boarding."

The article does not rail against ending all boarding schools - he seems more concerned with the emotional stunting effects of sending off young children.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
29. Surely you read beyond the title before responding.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 04:39 PM
Jun 2014

The article is CLEARLY talking about sending elementary school age kids off to start their Lord of the Flies education.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. sure- if you send a kid away at age 7 to 12 or 14, but beyond that?
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jun 2014

I don't see it. It's not for all kids, but many teens thrive in a boarding school environment- if it's the right match between school and kid.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
12. Welcome to DU, Legender 75 ~ Love that old time wisdom
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jun 2014


The double whammy on the dysfunction of the boarded kids is that they come from money and that means control of society. How many of us have been hoarded to bind up their souls?

Hope this study goes big time.

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
13. Interesting. Romney and Bush also seem to
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jun 2014

Have had many of the same characteristics and behavior patterns.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. JFK went to Choate
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 12:14 PM
Jun 2014

FDR went to Groton, so did Teddy Roosevelt. Adlai Stevenson never made it to the Presidency but he also went to Choate.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. uh, how do you know these are the exceptions. it's nonsense to make that claim
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jun 2014

without firm evidence- which you do NOT present.

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
24. The author has been studying and working with
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jun 2014

People involved in this, for many years, as described in the full story at the link. Until you present evidence stronger than his, your anecdotes aren't going to convince many people that he is wrong.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
30. yes, children who are sent away to school at a very young age. not the same thing as
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jun 2014

going off to boarding school as a teen.

former9thward

(31,974 posts)
15. John Kennedy, Franklin Roosevelt and John Kerry went to boarding schools.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jun 2014

Probably a lot of others. So a pretty broad brush.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
25. The true problem is the idea that the wealthy and privileged are born to rule
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jun 2014

Once we get rid of that, we're halfway there.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
31. ...and to have as little as possible to do with their offspring
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jun 2014

The nanny delivers them at convenient times, dressed, bathed and on their best behavior around emotionally distant parents. Once a school will take them, they're whisked off to be raised by emotionally distant teachers and hostile schoolmates.

They have no experience of unconditional acceptance, let alone love, so their relationships are likely to be quite distant and businesslike, also.

What I find hilarious is that their parents are often in politics on the side that criticizes mothers for going out to work and abandoning their offspring to day care.

That a lot of the offspring of the wealthy turn out to be sociopathic should come as no surprise.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
26. I think there is a huge difference between a 7 year old being sent off
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jun 2014

to boarding school and a 14 year old. I've only known a couple teens who went to boarding school, but they both felt constrained in small schools in small towns and were dying for a change. It's not a bad choice for some kids for high school.

vanlassie

(5,669 posts)
27. Exactly. The article and the documentry linked- which I watched as well, detail the
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:56 PM
Jun 2014

practice of sending BOYS off at age 7. An absolutely devastating thing to do to a little boy. They take their teddy bears, for God's sake. Horrible. One mother is quoted saying she knows some people question what she is about to do, and she replies "It will be the MAKING of him." Maybe so, but how he will end up made is sad.

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