5-4: We've lost Hobby Lobby; Corporations can practice Catholicism

[Michigander_Life]

A dark day for America.

Hobby Lobby is now a religious corporation in a 5-4 decision. Ginsburg's dissent calls the majority opinion a "decision of startling breadth."

http://scotusblog.com


BOYCOTT Hobby Lobby! Send the message that this WILL NOT be tolerated.

[el_bryanto]

1. Is there a link available?

These Supreme Court decisions are always so arcane I have to read half a dozen sources to figure out exactly what happens.

Bryant

[MohRokTah]

5. SCOTUSBlog

http://live.scotusblog.com/Event/Live_blog_of_opinions__June_30_2014

[el_bryanto]

16. Very disturbing - we'll have to see what it actually means

I agree with tgoldstein in the short term - "It is extremely likely that the Obama administration will by regulation provide for the government to pay for the coverage. So it is unlikely that there will be a substantial gap in coverage."

But what it means long term we'll have to see.

Bryant

[Michigander_Life]

19. Giving corporations personhood is bad no matter what

[el_bryanto]

20. It is bad - but they've already had that. This just confirms it further

Certainly a bad decision, no two ways around it. The question now is how bad is it.

Bryant

[Michigander_Life]

21. The deeper we dig that hole, the longer it will take to fill it back in

[ChisolmTrailDem]

2. 5:4, of course. nt

[DesertRat]

3. Crap

[Are_grits_groceries]

4. Link here:

@Circa: #SCOTUS rules private employers can decline to provide birth control on religious grounds http://t.co/35r4h174q9

[FSogol]

7. Translation: The religious rights of corporations are more important than the rights of people.

[boston bean]

8. Mother fucker pieces of shit!

Here's some discussion from Scotus blog, read from bottom up;

Here is more qualification: It does not provide a shield for employers who might cloak illegal discrimination as a religious practice.

by Amy Howe 10:19 AM Comment (0) Here is a further attempt at qualification: This decision concerns only the contraceptive mandate and should not be understood to mean that all insurance mandates, that is for blood transfusions or vaccinations, necessarily fail if they conflict with an employer's religious beliefs.

by Amy Howe 10:18 AM Comment (0) Justice Kennedy's concurring opinion says that the government could pay for the coverage itself, so that women receive it.

by tgoldstein 10:18 AM Comment (0) The Court says that the government has failed to show that the mandate is the least restrictive means of advancing its interest in guaranteeing cost-free access to birth control.

by Amy Howe 10:17 AM Comment (0) RFRA applies to regulations that govern the activities of closely held for-profit corporations like Conestoga, HL and Mardel.

by Amy Howe 10:17 AM Comment (0) Closely held corporations cannot be required to provide contraception coverage.by tgoldstein 10:17 AM Comment (0) PermalinkHere is Hobby Lobby. No dissent in Harris - See more at: http://live.scotusblog.com/Event/Live_blog_of_opinions__June_30_2014#sthash.QqMWhYy3.dpuf

[edhopper]

14. So the Catholic Justices

are saying that it only applies to the coverage unacceptable to Catholics, but not other religions.

[MohRokTah]

15. They're pulling a Bush v. Gore on this

They didn't want to open up a can of worms, but that's really too late now.

[mcar]

24. They are pulling a Bush v Gore

Saying it applies only to contraception and not blood transfusions etc. It's ok to discriminate against women but not the general public.

How long till a company owned by Jehovah's Witnesses tests this decision, I wonder.

[Michigander_Life]

27. Women are over half the population

Pretty discriminatory.

[mcar]

30. Totally discriminatory

Now made legal by SCOTUS. It's infuriating.

[truebrit71]

9. Waiting for the first Muslim company to try this...

Oh, and FUCK the Activist Judges on the bench...

[RockaFowler]

10. Can we put them in jail now if they cause harm to anyone??

I'm sick of these double-standards. Corporations are not people. They don't deserve nor should they be afforded the same rights as individuals. This Supreme Court is an abomination

[Coventina]

11. As I said in another thread: Time to start listing the religions of companies and shopping

accordingly.

[NightWatcher]

12. at least it is narrow and applies only to the contraceptive mandate

I was expecting open ended..Religious excuse can get away with anything.. kind of ruling

[Orangepeel]

17. Nah. Then corp owners with religions the 5 justices don't like could do stuff

To me, this appears to be an attempt to issue a narrow, you can't mandate stuff that we don't agree with decision.

[NightWatcher]

18. it doesn't apply to exemptions for other medical services like blood transfusion or vaccinations

So a company run by (whichever religion is against medical treatment) cannot use this ruling to refuse to pay for insurance without facing the fine.

[Orangepeel]

22. That's what I meant. The majority justices don't object to transfusions and vaccinations

They do object to birth control, personally, so that can't be mandated.

[atreides1]

28. Not yet!

The SCOTUS left the door slightly ajar, now we'll see what other religious groups decide to try and open it a little further!

[NuclearDem]

13. Claim pro-life and family values position

Have products manufactured by Asian children in near slave like conditions.

Fuck you, Hobby Lobby, you evil pieces of shit.

[Michigander_Life]

23. I hope we can drive their business into the ground with Boycotts and Protests

[mcar]

31. That's so true

[Small Accumulates]

25. Contact Conastoga Wood

http://www.conestogawood.com/how-to-purchase/

Ask for a list of dealers in your area. I did. And I'll be calling every one of them to say that I won't be purchasing any cabinets for my kitchen or bathroom upgrades from them as long as they carry Conastoga Wood products. I'm too old to carry a pitchfork, but I'm happy to make a lot of noise. I can't believe we have to fight this theocratic crap again.

[Mr Dixon]

26. IMO

Pretty easy boycott just don’t shop there, none of those in northern VA so I’m good on this end, very sad for those the work at this place or shop there.

[Initech]

29. Once again money trumps the rights of people.

Fuck you SCOTUS and Hobby Lobby!

[Michigander_Life]

32. We need a revolution.

[Initech]

33. We need to get Scalia, Thomas, and Alito off the bench.

Particularly while we still have Obama and/or Hillary Clinton in office. No revolution necessary!

[Michigander_Life]

34. And Ginsburg and Kennedy need to retire and have stalwart liberal replacements appointed