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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs anybody else incredibly angry today?
I find myself enraged at the Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decision.
I am visibly shaking as I read and respond to some of the right wing comments on fb threads--particularly ones
put up by progressive organizations. I usually try to avoid engaging these right wing nutjobs, but today,
I am having a very hard time not jumping on the keyboard.
I am dumbfounded, well, not really, at the perpetuation by SCOTUS of the lies regarding some of the contraceptive
methods.
The entire legal challenge against the Obama administration was based on the fundamental lie that certain types of FDA-approved contraception can end a pregnancy. The plaintiffs in this suit took the unscientific stance that pregnancy begins at fertilization and certain types of contraception, like the morning after pill and IUDs, are abortion-inducing because they prevent the implantation of a fertilized egg. But according to the legal definition of pregnancy, a woman is not actually considered to be pregnant until a fertilized egg is implanted in her uterine lining so anything that inhibits ovulation, fertilization, or implantation is defined as birth control. And on top of that, theres evidence that those types of contraception dont actually prevent implantation in the first place.
The justices who joined the Courts 5-4 opinion didnt appear to be concerned about scientific evidence, however. Mondays decision, written by Justice Samuel Alito, simply allows the business owners to follow their own definition of abortion. The owners of the businesses have religious objections to abortion, and according to their religious beliefs the four contraceptive methods at issue are abortifacients, he writes. If the owners comply with the HHS mandate, they believe they will be facilitating abortions.
Without challenging the plaintiffs definition of what constitutes an abortion or an abortion-inducing drug, the Supreme Court has essentially allowed unscientific beliefs about birth control to carry the weight of the law.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/06/30/3454815/birth-control-lies-hobby-lobby-ruling/
I am PISSED that some old fart employer wants to tell women which forms of contraception they may use.
What a bunch of patriarchal bullshit! And of course it comes from 5 MEN on the Court.
It is so blatantly discriminatory.
I am SO angry.
Anybody else?
Laurian
(2,593 posts)So, so discouraged. This morning I thought back to all the progress for women's rights in my lifetime (I'm 66) and now seeing them being torn down one by one is making me physically ill. I've been tied in knots all day.
It's outrageous.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)I do not think The Handmaid's Tale, by Margaret Atwood, is so far fetched anymore.
LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)We fought and fought HARD. And to see all that effort and struggle reversed, bit by bit, is just as disheartening as hell!
randys1
(16,286 posts)then appoint political operatives to the SC to reverse all progress made, the same progress that has outraged rightwing, immature, childish assholes for decades.
The very idea we would give women rights to their bodies, or rights to minorities, hell, what were we thinking...
I hope you are all very very angry...
livetohike
(22,140 posts)the freedom of choice has to stop.
TBF
(32,053 posts)on this site who have started with a "it's only 4 types of BC" b*llshit.
I've been getting email after email today asking for $$$ before tonight's deadline and I'm not giving anyone a damned cent. Until some political party shows me they stand for working folks and women all of my cash is going into a "get the hell out of this backwards country" fund.
The politicians are hacks these days. They say what you want them to hear when they want to get elected, and beg for your hard earned cash 24/7/365, then when they get into office, always some BS about how they have to "compromise" with the fascists. Then you look at their donors, and see who is benefiting from these damn compromises.
It's no longer a country of WE THE PEOPLE, it's more like them, the corporations.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)How dare they?
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)We can provide contraception if the government won't
lunatica
(53,410 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)The suckfest known as Hobby Lobby can piss and moan and sue all they want. It's their right. It's SCOTUS who fucked us over.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)even if it's administered privately.
Government let us down today.
progressoid
(49,987 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)run the gauntlet with a bunch of these fundies in her face yammering about
something she's trying to prevent having to do!
Are they all so stupid they can't see the consequences of this decision?
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)I contributed (as I normally and often did) last fall. I sent a personal check that has my name and my late husband's name on it. Ever since then, I've received a shitload of solicitations for donations from various organizations, addressed to my husband. There is only ONE entity that this can be traced to: PP! This means they sold my info (or actually my husband's.) I'm angry and upset about this, as I was a faithful, loyal supporter and I believe(d) in their work. Now, I'm not so sure. So NARAL will benefit. http://www.naral.org/
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)I think they're desperate with all the states shutting down funding. They call me all the time now, and you can smell the fear.
No excuse for what happened to you, though. That's wrong.
CTyankee
(63,904 posts)to support their services for women who need it and can't pay.
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)as giving locally means National (corporate) gives them less. Don't get me wrong -- I've given them plenty over the years and used their services back in the day, but when my privacy is violated, they've blown it. It makes me sad along with angry. Again, NARAL is my choice. (I don't give to Blue Dogs either.)
CTyankee
(63,904 posts)your money from now on. Somebody in that office REALLY dropped the ball...and deserves to be fired...
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Other than the fundies, I mean?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Many people do not count them among the 'fundies' but it is really Catholics who are most opposed to birth control, fundies are opposed to abortion but the other is not such a concern for many of them. Many.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
We need to stop whining (or fawning) and start tipping some fucking tables. NOW.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)are not angry, much less incredibly angry.
It sure is nice of people to try to stir it up though.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I am also enraged and hope that many other women in this country are too! Women's healthcare shouldn't be separated from HEALTHCARE.
These are FDA-approved contraceptives! None are abortive. The 5 justices don't understand basic science or medicine.
I was really pissed when Alito said that the reason why it's a substantial burden on their expression of religion is that they believe it's morally wrong to kill an embryo and that's what those drugs/iuds do. Guess what, Alito?! At 3 days post fertilization it's not even a blastocyst!! It's 2 weeks away from being anything close to an embryo.
This isn't "religious freedom". Controlling your reproduction is a personal health issue. Giving employers veto power over their employees healthcare is stunning!
#RememberInNovember #NotMyBossBusiness
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)I am ready to cede half of this country to the bigots....and they can have the 5 members of the SCOTUS that they have bought and paid for.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)do things the way they want it done.
They'd never settle for half the country. They want it all! They are greedy.
wandy
(3,539 posts)Just got back, checked my E-Mail...............
13 count them THIRTEEN requests for donations by virtue of various Democratic organizations.
Not one signal word about Hobby Lobby!
Not one signal word about Net Neutrality!
Sometimes I wonder if its worth the aggravation.
valerief
(53,235 posts)onecaliberal
(32,830 posts)That list has dwindled as well.
valerief
(53,235 posts)I should probably contribute to Southern Poverty Law, too.
onecaliberal
(32,830 posts)I'm going to do the same.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)wandy
(3,539 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)the recount in Florida and gave it to Bush.
The decision is just so f*cked up.
homegirl
(1,428 posts)in November, and get out the vote!
SacoMaine61
(114 posts)malthaussen
(17,193 posts)Just another in a long line of filthy decisions handed down by the USSC since they validated Bush's putsch.
-- Mal
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)I've been angry for the last 14 years.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)puts me back to 2000 and reliving the damn decision that put Bushie
boy in the WH.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Worse, I think I'm becoming numb to it.
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)I guess I should have known better than to expect any consistency in their views and outrages.
Girl powers
(109 posts)We must fight this for our daughters and granddaughters!
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)derby378
(30,252 posts)So I guess I'm going to have to be furious for the two of us.
It's exhausting, but our fury carries the "oomph" of righteousness and justice, so that keeps me going.
irisblue
(32,969 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)All the more reason to keep voting Dem. SUPREME COURT NOMINEES!!!
onecaliberal
(32,830 posts)Don't think I've been this angry since those mother fuckers appointed W president.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)kickitup
(355 posts)and for the first time in my life I feel truly threatened as an American woman. I know that won't make any sense to some of you, but I didn't become really aware until I hit my thirties. I am furious and sad. If men were the ones having babies none of this would be an issue. I think we all probably know this in our hearts and it hurts.
This is a great article about how this is really about women's sexuality. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/30/hobby-lobby-ruling-law-immoral-women-sex
It's the same old bullshit that has been going on for a few thousand years or more.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)I prefer it to be a controversy free zone, you know photos, jokes, family memories.
Not today, I am pissed and I do not care who knows it.
Welcome to the United Corporations of America..... people, especially women do not matter.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)I mean, really, what business is it of employers which contraceptive methods are
used by their women employees? The sheer audacity of them demanding--expecting--
to control the choices is so f*cking patriarchal.
valerief
(53,235 posts)mcar
(42,306 posts)Seriously pissed.
Women, and the men who love them, need to vote this fall.
Lonely lib in ky
(4 posts)This is plain and simple discrimination against women. Why are these 5 old men allowed to make decisions about women's health issues? Hobby Lobby's insurance benefits included contraception coverage before Obamacare. This is not about religion. These methods of birth control do not cause abortion. Ask an ob/gyn. I wonder if vasectomies are covered. Viagra?
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)You will find some company here at DU!
Lonely lib in ky
(4 posts)CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)You are not alone.... there are a few of us in Kentucky!
Welcome to DU...
Lonely lib in ky
(4 posts)niyad
(113,275 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,448 posts)elleng
(130,865 posts)and definitely not reading 'comments' anywhere (but DU, and even here, selectively.)
Fla Dem
(23,654 posts)It feels like all that was gained has been turned back. And I'm saddened to think in this day and age there are still Neanderthal men who want to control women's bodies. So sad and disappointing..
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Plenty of women cheered the CLOWN COURT's decision.
Believe me, if women were nearly 100% united on this issue, it wouldn't be happening.
Fla Dem
(23,654 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)And women and workers. Great.
Yeah, pretty angry. But not surprised. I mean we are talking about the court that gave us Citizens United. Don't let comments from crazy righties get you down. They were crazy before the decision, and would have left crazy hateful comments in any event. Hide those nasty threads on fb and have a or two
Single payer would x out employer concerns wouldn't it? Maybe we'll see a bigger push for that?
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)that we need to get rid of employer based health care insurance and create
a single payer system. But that isn't going to happen overnight or without
major Congressional support.
Perhaps the anger this decision has generated will translate into some serious
voter turnout. I would love to see Republicans rejected all over the country
in such numbers that we would not only keep the WH in 2016, but regain control
of the House while keeping control of the Senate.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Hope it happens!
genwah
(574 posts)jaxind
(1,074 posts)I hope this opens up a whole can of worms, and the Court will regret their decision! Maybe a Jewish business owner will push their religious beliefs on their employees, etc. I hope this all backfires...karma is a bitch!
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)but sadly, not really surprised.
DFW
(54,365 posts)Five right wing old Catholic guys make a decision that only makes sense if one asks "how would five right wing old Catholic guys decide?"
In the future, I think addressing Supreme Court members as "Justice" should be made optional.
RKP5637
(67,105 posts)locdlib
(176 posts)when I saw the ruling was outrageous.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)They don't even upset me any more.
However, I declare war on the Koch brothers and other right wing billionares. If you buying Dixie Cups, you're wrong. They are the source of what is wrong with America today. There would be a lot less corruption if they were spreading their ducats around to weak politicians susceptable to Koch Addiction.
If there's a problem, I always say get straight to the source of it and root it out once and for all.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)Everything that we, and the women before us have fought so hard for is being stripped away by these righteous Republican thugs. Reading some of the comments of these pasty white Republicans around the country make the statements about women and the judges who blame rape victims, even young girls, they were asking for it. No one should ever refer to this country as civilized.
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)Done!
Efilroft Sul
(3,579 posts)Remember this feeling as the November midterms approach, and be sure to get every woman you know to the polls. I don't care if you drive them there or cajole them to get off their asses and take a stand in their own self interest, but they have to vote to start taking matters back into their hands. Otherwise, they are going to be second-class citizens and employees for the rest of their lives.
As the Pittster says, "Anger is a gift."
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)Efilroft Sul
(3,579 posts)I am going to cajole every woman in my life to go this year my sister, mother, mother-in-law, aunts, neighbors, coworkers, and friends. And I'm going to hector the men in their lives even more.
Stay angry, stay motivated!
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)subject
(118 posts)and already they are chipping away at Obamacare from the catbird seat.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Find a local Democratic candidate's campaign.
Call them up and offer to help.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)So, I'm not surprised. I did read the whole opinion, and it seems that the majority hung it's hat on the exception that was carved out for religious organizations, it just gave a justification for that majority to say, "Well, if we can let the Catholic Church off the hook for paying for contraception by this dual insurance plan, then why can't it be used for the plaintiffs in this case?"
Look, if 100% of contraception and abortion being covered was part of the original ACA, we wouldn't have had the law passed in the first place. President Obama himself signed an executive order saying that abortion coverage would NOT be part of the ACA in order to get enough votes for passage. As time went on, and other exceptions were carved out, it was only a matter of time before the SCOTUS would use particular cases to put their own favorite exceptions in.
If you work for a religious organization, or a closely-held company run by a religious zealot (or family of them) you're going to be furthering their mission, and sometimes that mission might conflict with what you want for yourself.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)They really have no idea how the various types of contraceptives work. They thrive on stupid.
calimary
(81,220 posts)That's the only way. Get EVERYBODY YOU KNOW to vote. DRAG them there, physically if you have to.
Some good ideas in THIS thread from DUer TygrBright:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025172038
Mass
(27,315 posts)Had we gone toward a personal healthcare mandate subsidized by taxes, whether single payer or not, we would have avoided this problem, that was foreseeable, as well as many others.
The best way to avoid these problems is to have an health insurance that is centered on YOU and not YOUR JOB.
We would not have to be subjected to this if we were responsible for our insurance.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)momsrule
(100 posts)The Robert's Court has denied women their freedom and given freedom to a business entity as if it were a person. It is NOT. Hobby Lobby has offered insurance in the past. It paid for contraception then. But, this is Obamacare and they are so blindly being conservative that they know no what they do. This is becoming a Taliban mentality by the far-right religious fanatics. Do we have to wear burkas to please them?
subject
(118 posts)not just interpreting it. They are the only other entity doing anything save the POTUS executive orders. That's our whole government right now. The American federal bureaucracy is a miserable failure.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)will motivate people to recognize how easily rights can be taken away
when one doesn't vote.
subject
(118 posts)have to come out and vote again.
KauaiK
(544 posts)I am so grateful I am not a young woman today in this country. We fought so hard to gain these rights. I am so sorry. We need (1) term limits on the Supreme Court; (2) a progressive liberal clean sweep of both houses to be able to impeach / get rid of Scalia, Alito, Thomas (whom I particularly loathe) and Roberts. WTF is up with Kennedy?
The only positive side of this - I hope - is that it will mobilize women, progressives, liberals.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)something good will come out of it.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Oh wait. THEY have the buffer zone.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)at today's ruling? Every single time I read about scotus majority decision, which is every liberal site I frequent, I heart pounds against my chest. Good thing I just had a physical and blood work done, otherwise I would be afraid my heart would give out. I am royally pissed!
Peacetrain
(22,875 posts)when I first read the decision.. beyond anger
Gothmog
(145,147 posts)This is another stupid decision by the Roberts court. It is not as bad as the Shelby County opinion that gutted the Voting Rights Act but it is still a horrible opinion
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)This ruling is a *clear* violation of the rights of women who may want, or even *need*(and some really do need it), to use contraception. This, ladies and gentlemen, is proof of why we need to GOTV in November, and in 2016, even more so.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)yardwork
(61,599 posts)I look forward to a Satanist-owned business refusing to require their employees to follow some random federal law. According to the USSC, that will be fine, as long as the owners' beliefs are deeply held.
kardonb
(777 posts)furious would be more accurate ! This SCOTUS is absolutely untenable with their backward, politically slanted decisions . A disgusting bunch of out of touch with reality old men . TINGS MUST CHANGE , or we will be sliding back into the Middle ages .
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)I understand it.
We live in a totally corrupted society and this is the kind of bullshit that should be expected.
It does no good to be mad.
In fact it is quite counterproductive to your psyche and deflects your energy away from the solution because you're focusing all your energy toward the stupidity of these corrupt clowns.
All acts begin as thoughts.
Change your mind, first.
- The rest will follow.....
K&R
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mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)1. Anger is a motivating force
2. Angry people are more optimistic
3. Anger can benefit relationships
4. Anger provides self-insight
5. Anger reduces violence
6. Anger as negotiation strategy
http://www.spring.org.uk/2012/03/the-upside-of-anger-6-psychological-benefits-of-getting-mad.php
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...but not going anywhere.
Angry people aren't optimistic at all. They wouldn't be angry if they were thinking positively (optimistically).
Anger destroys relationships because it is all power with no controls. No focus. It's like a volcano that may help the earth relieve internal pressures, but it destroys everything in its path while doing so.
Anger is the opposite of self-insight. Anger focuses its energy outwardly toward the world and toward others as the ''cause'' of their problems. Rather than toward the self where all answers truly lie.
Anger causes violence. Anger is the point you reach when words can go no further. Anger is the reaction to other's violence. Whether it is verbal violence or of or physical variety. Anger is a response, not an act of volition.
Anger is not a negotiation strategy because you can't control it. Your anger depends upon others making you so, so then how can you negotiate with something you have no control over?
- People just need to calm down and stop letting the world control your emotions.
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mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)Karma's only a bastard if you are?
Let's not be sexist, ok?
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...bastard/bitch equality is my middle name!
And..... I made you laugh! So it was worth it!!!
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)That appeared to be the crux of it, from what I've read. Isn't the First Amendment enough?
Second, this would not be an issue if our health care wasn't tied to our jobs (for the most part).
Time for single-payer now. Canadian-style, where the government pays the bills. You know, like Medicare, something we already have.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)Take employers completely out of the loop.
musette_sf
(10,200 posts)at top volume throughout the news broadcast on the radio, while driving to work.
I am LIVID.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)I have a great visual--and audio-- of you in your car!
Thanks for chiming in!
Puglover
(16,380 posts)But sadly I think the vast majority of Americans are more concerned with what is going on with Kim and Kanje. And that makes me even angrier.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)Yet one more reason to separate health insurance and employment. Employers should pay their employees cash, and those employees should be free to use that cash as they chose.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)fuck this fucking world....jesus...wtf is happening??????????????
Women won't be voting pretty soon....for gods sake
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)for DECADES now. DECADES.
"Not this shit again"..... comes to mind.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)The next thing that the religious fundies and tea baggers will to do is try to repeal the 19th amendment.
ellie
(6,929 posts)Fuckers.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)catbyte
(34,375 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)with someone about how anger can be a motivating force for change--which I believe-vs
the shrug it off and accept things point of view. It's very difficult to get motivated
when one is depressed, defeated and pessimistic.
Cha
(297,158 posts)BlindTiresias
(1,563 posts)Hard to be angry at something you saw coming a mile away, did anyone here really think it wouldn't be at least this bad?
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)Two right-wingers are slowly making their way through the judicial nomination and confirmation process even though Democrats control both the White House and the Senate.
Sign and send the petition to your Democratic senator(s): Do not vote to confirm Michael Boggs. (for people with one or more Democratic senator) http://campaigns.dailykos.com/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=902
Sign and send the petition to President Obama: Do not nominate Ward Armstrong. (for everyone)
http://campaigns.dailykos.com/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=967
The first person we have to stop is Michael Boggs. President Obama cut a deal with Georgia's two Republican senators to nominate Boggsa right-wing activist judge who is anti-choice, anti-civil rights and anti-marriage equalityin exchange for those two senators dropping their opposition to other nominees.
This is unacceptable. Not only should a Democratic president never, ever be nominating someone like Boggs to serve on the federal bench, but after we won filibuster reform last November Democrats no longer have to make these kinds of deals in order to get anyone confirmed.
Sign and send the petition: Do not vote to confirm Michael Boggs.
The second person we have to stop is Ward Armstrong, who voted to end the Affordable Care Act, supported allowing handguns in bars, voted to close Virginias abortion clinics and supported a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage.
Virginia's two Democratic U.S. senators have recommended that President Obama nominate Armstrong for a lifetime appointment to the federal bench. No, no, no, no, no:
Sign and send the petition: Do not nominate Ward Armstrong.
We can't reverse these bad decisions overnight, but we can stand up today and tell the Democratic Party not to make things even worse. Today we say NO MORE.
Sign and send: Do not vote to confirm Michael Boggs.
http://campaigns.dailykos.com/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=902
Sign and send: Do not nominate Ward Armstrong.
http://campaigns.dailykos.com/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=967
Keep fighting,
Chris Bowers, Daily Kos
King_Klonopin
(1,306 posts)and I don't even have ovaries!
These "justices" are creating laws from the bench based upon their opinions, beliefs and ideology.
Their attempts to justify their decisions are ridiculous, and they don't even give a shit.
Unchecked power is dangerous.
johnson_z
(45 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)This is one of the worst courts ever with the exception of the Dem appointees. The pukes on the court wouldn't know how to make a correct legal, moral, or constitutional decision if it came up to them and bit them in the ass.
That's why getting out the vote for Democrats in every election to come is key. It is more important than ever to make sure we strengthen our hold on the Senate and keep the Presidency so we make sure the PUKES aren't allowed to appoint any more ignorant racist, sexist, corporate ass kissers to the SCOTUS.
niyad
(113,275 posts)is not surprising, given the court's ideological bent, it is sickening that they are not even bothering to try to pretend anymore.
when I think about how hard we have fought to gain even the most minimal and basic autonomy in this patriarchal world, and how rapidly those small gains are being removed, I am sickened.
what is it going to take for the women of this country to RISE UP?
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)Fuck you
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Paying workers, the whole "global warming" thing, OSHA, taxes, liquor licenses, fire escapes, permits to do things like dump sludge...
See where this could go?
gordianot
(15,237 posts)So the religious beliefs of Catholics and Fundamentalist Bible thumpers outweigh Jehovah Witness. Having such beliefs for yourself is fine now the door is open to allow them to creep into everyone's lives. Never in American history has there been a worse Supreme Court.
stage left
(2,962 posts)I only thought I was an angry liberal before this.
indepat
(20,899 posts)each has rammed a dagger in the heart and soul of the Constitution and liberty itself imo.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Very.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)before one of the "fetus personhood" laws makes its way to the Supreme Court. When that happens, they will issue a ruling that sets us back 100 years. They will issue a ruling that not only overturns Roe v. Wade, but goes beyond that to ban abortion entirely. Now we know they will ban birth control as well.
The Supreme Court has been taken over by Opus Dei, and they are beginning to substitute their religious doctrine for scientific fact and the Constitution.
And we can't do a damn thing about it.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)Ginsburg is correct in saying this will lead to chaos.
I'm not a lawyer and I can understand how much trouble this ruling will cause.
And the fact that they make no effort to understand the science? Welcome to the
Flat Earth and Sun Goes Around It Society.
barbtries
(28,788 posts)and the next time i hear someone say there is no war on women i may blow.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)And stay angry!
lark
(23,097 posts)Angry as humanly possible.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)and landed on pissed the hell off.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)if I couldn't laugh I would just sit and cry.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)I wish I had.
get the red out
(13,462 posts)some idiot Christo-Fascist HARD. I am so angry it defies accurate description.
Maybe they will all get all the guns they want and shoot the hell out of each other at the Revival. One can wish.
William769
(55,145 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)get as many white peeps to VOTE BLUE in 2014 as possible. I will do the same with black folks. We have to stop voting these GOP terrorists into office
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)NealK
(1,865 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Don't get mad - get even. We need another democratic president in 2016.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)Who not only has tried to force women to carry stillborn babies to term because she's a religious ASSHOLE, she has also blocked research into mmj for veterans with PTSD.
And she got the scientist doing research into this project - that has had to deal with obstruction from the federal govt. for decades, anyway, when a scientist FINALLY got approval, Yee, the SCUMBAG, got the woman scientist fired.
So, yeah, two days, one after the other, with this kind of news from RELIGIOUS FASCIST FUCKERS.
Kimberly Yee, scumbag.