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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:38 PM Apr 2012

Get Ready for a War on Reason

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/4/4/113211/6634

Get Ready for a War on Reason

by BooMan
Wed Apr 4th, 2012 at 11:32:11 AM EST

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Ask yourself, who is more credible, Mitt Romney or President Obama? It would take unimaginable amounts of money and the ability to create free media for himself at any time for Romney to have any chance of convincing a majority of the people that Paul Ryan's budget plan is good for them. In a Citizens United world with a mighty right-wing media wurlitzer, this isn't totally out of the question, but it seems unlikely to work.

The truth, though, is that Romney will try to move to the center at the same time that he tries to sell Ryan's radical plan. And here's what I think will happen.

The most damaging thing about Sarah Palin wasn't who she was or what she said. The most damaging thing was that she forced ordinary Republicans to pretend she was qualified and prepared to be president. She destroyed people's integrity. She convinced millions to abandon any standards of logic or reason. And the result was a massive outbreak of really hateful stupidity: "I want Medicare, not socialized medicine." Mitt Romney, in defending the math in Ryan's plan while denying its impact on social programs, is going to force the Republicans to engage in a sixth-month tour-de-force of dishonesty where no scientific or logical standard is honored and in which scientists are disregarded and disparaged.

It's a Culture War on math. A Culture War on going to college. A Culture War on credentialed experts. An air war of saturation talking points, all of which do violence to the truth.


It will be depressing. But it will also be dangerous because, as we saw with Palin, the fallout has a long half-life even if the Democrats ultimately prevail.
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BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
3. Turbineguy shared this link yesterday...
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:46 PM
Apr 2012
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/profile/stephenLbuechler
in a reply to Rose Siding's thread about this:

"Stephen L. Buechler sr.
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We can't wait until the election. We must make this man disappear now.We must be willing to sacrifice our selves to save the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE HAVE TO RISE UP NOW! We need to put an armed force on the ground when he's in the W.H. and take him and his whore of a wife and make them disappear. I know this may seal my fate but I can abide no more. If we continue to whine and moan it will be to late and we all become slaves. I am sure they are reading this as I write it but I can do nothing about that. I sleep with my weapon beside me already. I ask all red blooded American patriots to rise up immediately and join me on a cavalcade to Washington D.C. as soon as we know for shure he is at home or some place where we can get to him. xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com ph.# 850-XXX-XXX be prepared to defend yourselves. I heard yesterday that an operation is already planned for this month. Perhaps we can join forces with them. They said to lay in a months food,water and toilet paper. Said you'll know it's on when people are taken into custody and no one knows why. Gave no date other than to say it is in April so be prepared. Supposed to be peaceful operation with law enforcement being backed by military who have already said they are in so be alert . LOVE AND VICTORY TO YOU ALL! Stephen"

DU thread here:
"What do I do? Should this threat against the President be reported?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=514378

A tour around the TP web site should scare the crap out of anyone who is paying attention.

BHN

On Edit: Hopefully, Mr. Buechler is now in the hands of the proper authorities thanks to Rose Siding and DU.

babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
10. JEEZE!!! Thanks for sharing that; I haven't been around much in a few days
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:57 PM
Apr 2012

and missed that. So damned creepy and ignorant!

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
12. Not to mention ILLEGAL...
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 05:10 PM
Apr 2012

There are some really scary people on that website.
I hope Rose tipping them off to that guy in particular
will encourage authorities to dig around some more on that site.

I did, and to think these people actually believe the
things they do, is a clear sign that this country has
officially slipped into the abyss.

Check out the videos of Ann Barnhardt there-
Burning a Quran as she rants about Muslims.
She has a slew of videos on Youtube, not sure why they
are allowed there as they are extremely hate filled and
could be construed as a call to violence against Muslims in this country.

The tea party loves her- she is a HATE monger that makes Malkin and Coulter
look like debutantes.
Her "Burn the Quaran" video:

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BHN

unblock

(52,205 posts)
4. you're a bit late to the party!
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:47 PM
Apr 2012

the war on reason has been raging since around 1978.

i agree that there will be the usual quadrennial flare-up, but the war on reason has been a constant ally of the right-wing for decades.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
5. The conservatives won the war on reason a long time ago.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:50 PM
Apr 2012

As long as the Fox Ministry Of Propaganda reigns supreme and oxycontin abuser extrodinaire Limbaugh continue to get away with the shit the do on a daily basis - reason and more importantly logic - have taken a backslide. If only Joesf Stalin were alive to see this.

Autumn

(45,064 posts)
6. BooMan, where the fuck have you been? The War on Reason
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:52 PM
Apr 2012

has been going on for quite a while now. And I think we are losing.

 

GopperStopper2680

(397 posts)
8. Knowledge among the people is a mortal threat to tyranny
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:53 PM
Apr 2012

All through history there have been widespread burnings of books, particularly in places like Rome and China. The old saw that 'knowledge is power' is absolutely true. In Highschool they don't teach you to be a successful adult. They teach you to be a good consumer, a good buyer of corporate products. They teach you how important it is to conform to societal constraints and not stand out. They teach you that being your own person makes you a 'weirdo outsider'. These are all weapons of the oppressive status quo.
There was a very good reason why the Bush Administration tried to restrict governmental education loans and grants to private schools and institutions. This was nothing short of an attempt to set up a trend in which the already privileged elite would benefit from the best education thereby continuing a pedigree line of the new aristocracy the Neocon GOPs envisioned.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
13. Traces back at least to William Jennings Bryan. Deep, deep roots with the Rs.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 06:53 PM
Apr 2012

Even tho he was a Democrat, many many of his ideas line the Rs of today.

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