The ocean is swallowing up Virginia so rapidly that its leaders are forgetting to bicker about clima

[applegrove]

The ocean is swallowing up Virginia so rapidly that its leaders are forgetting to bicker about climate change

By Gwynn Guilford at Quartz

http://qz.com/228284/the-ocean-is-swallowing-up-virginia-so-rapidly-that-its-leaders-are-forgetting-to-bicker-about-climate-change/

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The usual US partisan divisions over climate change were absent today in the state of Virginia, where Republican and Democrat officials met to discuss what to do about the threat of rising sea levels to the state. The proposals include the launch of a climate-change task force, which Virginia’s Democrat governor will announce tomorrow. Christina DeConcini, government affairs director at the World Resources Institute, a research organization, told Quartz this is the first time to her knowledge that Republican leaders (very few of whom accept global warming is both real and man-made) and Democratic ones have come together to craft a policy on global warming.

That’s probably because Virginia is more vulnerable to storm-surge destruction than anywhere else on the US’s east coast. Problems are particularly acute in Norfolk, Virginia’s second-biggest city and home to the world’s largest naval base; sea levels there are now 14.5 inches (37 cm) higher than they were in 1930—so high that parts of Norfolk flood when the moon is full.



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[Cha]

1. Thanks applegrove~ :(

[Uncle Joe]

2. Kicked and recommended, let us hope it's not too late.

Thanks for the thread, applegrove.

[applegrove]

3. Probably why the GOP has pivoted to "We're not scientists, we can't talk about climate change".

Because they've made denial of climate change a republican thing. Now they try to slip the Republicanism out of the debate and say something that is more moderately true.

[Uncle Joe]

5. And yet in North Carolina's outer banks Republicans have reduced global warming forecasts of

sea level rise from 100 years to 30 years.

Some people will get burned from that just as they pay their houses off.

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. In NC, the politicians forbid climate change! It is just not possible...

[Uncle Joe]

7. Here it is for the people that don't know.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/ncs-outer-banks-got-a-scary-forecast-about-climate-change-so/2014/06/24/0042cf96-f6f3-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html

NAGS HEAD, N.C. — The dangers of climate change were revealed to Willo Kelly in a government conference room in the summer of 2011. By the end of the century, state officials said, the ocean would be 39 inches higher and her home on the Outer Banks would be swamped.

The state had detailed maps to illustrate this claim and was developing a Web site where people could check by street address to see if their property was doomed. There was no talk of salvation, no plan to hold back the tide. The 39-inch forecast was “a death sentence,” Kelly said, “for ever trying to sell your house.”

So Kelly, a lobbyist for Realtors and home builders on the Outer Banks, resolved to prove the forecast wrong. And thus began one of the nation’s most notorious battles over climate change.

Coastal residents joined forces with climate skeptics to attack the science of global warming and persuade North Carolina’s Republican-controlled legislature to deep-six the 39-inch projection, which had been advanced under the outgoing Democratic governor. Now, the state is working on a new forecast that will look only 30 years out and therefore show the seas rising by no more than eight inches.

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[NRaleighLiberal]

9. .

[Enthusiast]

21. Thanks, Uncle Joe.

[randome]

25. I've been saying it for a long time: debating the cause is a losing proposition.

Debating what to do about real effects has more of a chance to get action.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

[Uncle Joe]

4. P.S. Somebody needs to tell Quartz it's Democratic not Democrat. n/t

[calimary]

15. Agreed!!!

[Unknown Beatle]

17. I was about to post

something to that effect.

[City Lights]

27. Glad you pointed that out.

[Uncle Joe]

30. P.S.S. Somebody also needs to explain the definition of "bicker" to the Quartz, the definition

of "bicker" or "bickering" is

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bickering?s=t

bick·er1 [bik-er] Show IPA
verb (used without object)

1.
to engage in petulant or peevish argument; wrangle: The two were always bickering.


noun
4.
an angry, petty dispute or quarrel; contention.

The very substance of this article betrays the use of the word "bickering," global warming in general and what's happening to Virginia specifically scream that there is nothing "petulant" or "petty" about this issue.

The Democratic Party has been on the correct side of this issue and the Republicans have been dead wrong, in deep denial.

The biggest problem with the article is, while rightfully bringing the severe consequence of global warming to light on a local level it then tries to muddy the political waters using such words as "Democrat" versus the correct name of Democratic and "bicker" subliminally speaking as if both parties are to blame for acting like children "bickering" over a trifle.

[sheshe2]

8. It's time they face the truth about climate change. eom

[G_j]

10. and I guess this is the way it will go, as the realities effect people directly

Someday the climate deniers will no doubt have quieted down in the face of events.

[Botany]

11. Norfolk VA spring 2014

[BillZBubb]

13. Change the name to Venice!

Take those lemons and make lemonade!

[BillZBubb]

12. As events unfold, watch the deniers start denying they were ever deniers.

And the red state voters, while suffering the effects, will still vote for the same lunatics. I expect in the future, these buffoons will be criticizing a Democratic president for not handling the ongoing climate disaster properly.

Just like the Iraq invasion pimps, who should have been totally and forever discredited, are now getting airtime to criticize the President on Iraq! No place but America.

[rustydog]

29. I can hear the GOP already: Prez Cruz: "Now is not the time to debate what was said in 2012"

"We need to take ACTION! you are either against Global Warmers, or WITH them"

"Harrumph, harrumph, Hey I didn't hear a Harrumph from you!" (Pointing at Boehner)

[kelliekat44]

14. Notice that the Bible belt states (deniers) are in the climate change danger zones? nt

[butterfly77]

16. K&R..

[RainDog]

18. k&r n/t

[gwheezie]

19. Not to mention the threat from fracking

An energy co from tx has bought about 84000 acres of leases in the taylorsville basin of eastern virginia between the bay and tidal rivers. I know I live here and we get very little answers from the energy co or the county.
We also have bugs we never had before due to climate change. We don't get the kind of winter bug due off we used to get. I used to only vaccinate my horses against west Nile in the spring Now my vet recommends in fall due to no mosquito die off. Big ag has been pouring millions if dollars into adjusting for climate change. They aren't planning on slowing it down but plan on making profit off a disaster They know it's coming.

[Kurska]

20. I've always loved living near the ocean

However, lately I'm thinking more and more that It'll be okay to live further inland.

I have the feeling the ocean will come to me.

[Enthusiast]

22. Kicked and recommended!

Thank you, applegrove.

[Duppers]

23. k&r

Thanks for this thread.

I live on the coast in Tidewater area in Virginia.

[IronLionZion]

24. The most idiotic thing I've heard from a denier was

"when the ice in my glass melts, it doesn't overflow, therefore the oceans won't rise." That ranks up there with "its cold this winter so global warming isn't real"

Yes many coastal areas are very screwed and need help.

[Coventina]

26. Wow! A real scientist you've got there!

[rustydog]

28. That isn't Global Warming! It is global Mooning.

Simply attach rockets to the moon and move it back a few miles lessening the gravitational effect on tides thereby Norfolk's problem will go away!
Global Warming my foot.