8 Other Laws That Could Be Ignored Now That Christians Get To Pick And Choose

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/30/religious-companies-opt-out-of-laws_n_5544582.html

8 Other Laws That Could Be Ignored Now That Christians Get To Pick And Choose
The Huffington Post | By Ryan Grim

Posted: 06/30/2014 3:42 pm EDT Updated: 06/30/2014 5:59 pm EDT

The owners of a chain of stores called Hobby Lobby don't like Obamacare. In particular, they really don't like the part that requires insurance companies to cover contraceptives. Normally, people who don't like a law petition the government to change that law. That's how a nation of laws works.

But these men are Christians. The Supreme Court ruled Monday that Christian business owners are special. Their deeply held religious belief that some particular form of contraception is immoral carries more weight than the force of law, five conservative Christian justices ruled. The court -- in a fairly bald admission that its ruling is incoherent -- added that no general amnesty from other laws should be assumed to be the result of its ruling and that its reasoning was strictly limited to women's contraception. Such a limitation raises legitimate questions about the rather perverted and obsessive minds of the five men who made the ruling, but it also carries little legal weight. Precedent is precedent, whether the precedent-setters say so or not.

As Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wondered aloud in her dissent, "Would the exemption ... extend to employers with religiously grounded objections to blood transfusions (Jehovah's Witnesses); antidepressants (Scientologists); medications derived from pigs, including anesthesia, intravenous fluids, and pills coated with gelatin (certain Muslims, Jews, and Hindus)?"

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NUDITY LAWS

Entire colonies of people are dedicated to the belief that being compelled to wear clothes is wrong. Others don't believe they should be compelled to make love only indoors. Don't wanna see this on your Saturday stroll? Hey, freedom isn't free.



TAXES

Most religions profess a deep affinity for peace (while drenching history in blood in the name of religion, but whatever). Why should religious pacifists be compelled to pay taxes that subsidize war? Why should Randians, believers in Atlas Shrugged, the bible for dorm-room free-market evangelists, be forced to support the evil that is government?



LSD

There isn't much more religious of an experience than talking directly with God. Hell, Huston Smith included a section on acid in his definitive book The World's Religions. While we're at it, all drug laws rub up against religious practice. Sorry officer, this is our church.



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[MADem]

1. And they say we have no "Sharia" law in USA!!!

Sure we do--so long as it's the CHRISTIAN variety!

[BrotherIvan]

2. The correct question

"Would the exemption ... extend to employers with religiously grounded objections to blood transfusions (Jehovah's Witnesses); antidepressants (Scientologists); medications derived from pigs, including anesthesia, intravenous fluids, and pills coated with gelatin (certain Muslims, Jews, and Hindus)?"

NO, IT ONLY APPLIES TO WOMEN'S HEALTHCARE. Jane Crow.

Burn it down

[BlancheSplanchnik]

3. exactly. Justice Ginsberg points out the hypocrisy,

But if those other religious sanctions aimed only at women...I'm sure the good conservative men would have gravely upheld the religious freedom to make women suffer.

[BrotherIvan]

4. I'm so mad about this I don't know what to do

[nomorenomore08]

6. I don't know what to do either. As much as I don't want to condemn progressive believers

it's hard not to see religion itself, at least in part, as the problem.

[BrotherIvan]

7. I agree

I know that not all faiths are backwards; I have seen the rise of fundamentalism in my lifetime and it is horrifying. It is time for progressive religious people to take their religion back if they wish to remain relevant. Religion in this country has plunged us into the dark ages. We need some help in getting out. I do believe that the fundamentalists/hardcore Kristians are actually few in number. And though many Christian churches have been been taken over by this hatefilled message, I'm not sure everyone supports it. But I live in a blue area, so I could be wrong.

In another thread I urged people of faith, and in this case, Catholics, to withhold tithing these kinds of churches. It is only giving them money to fight these political fights. If you still want to help worth causes, there are plenty of non-religious organizations to give your time and money to.

[nomorenomore08]

8. Sadly, I think a sizeable minority of Americans (say close to 20%) really are that batshit crazy.

Less than 10% (according to some polls) actually object to contraception, but I assume that doesn't include those who ostensibly support its legality but still wag their finger (however subtly) at women who use it.

And withholding donations is an excellent idea, for progressive churchgoing Catholics. Vote with your wallet.

[BrotherIvan]

11. But it is still a minority

And I think the majority was fine to leave them alone, but now that they are trying to control all of our lives, they might--FINALLY--fight back. I remember when fundies were considered crazy cult members. I know a lot of people absolutely hate being told what to do. That's why they are always very careful who they push around. I really hope women can get together and put their foot down to stop this. Sadly, they have made a very successful campaign to recruit women to pro-life by lying to them and showing them pictures of full term babies.

[nomorenomore08]

12. We absolutely do need to push back, in any way we can. Don't give the bastards an inch. n/t

[Cha]

5. I say put "Christians" in parenthesis.. JohnFugelsang Tweets..

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[nomorenomore08]

9. Looks like it's time for me to "convert" to the Rastafari faith...

[Cha]

10. Yep it's religion dude!

[Cha]

13. K

[cantbeserious]

14. What Happens When Muslims Proclaim Religious Convictions Supporting Sharia Law

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