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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 03:54 PM Jul 2014

Iraqi Kurds to Vote on Independence

President of Iraq's Kurdish region, already largely autonomous, says the country is already partitioned

The partition of Iraq lurched closer to reality on Tuesday when the head of the country’s already quasi-autonomous Kurdish region publicly declared he would schedule a referendum on independence. Polls and previous votes indicate that the measure is certain to pass, leading, in all likelihood, to an independent Kurdistan on the northern and northeastern borders of Iraq.

“From now on, we won’t hide that that’s our goal,” Massoud Barzani, president of the Regional Kurdistan Government, told the BBC in an interview. “Iraq is effectively partitioned now. Are we supposed to stay in this tragic situation the country’s living? It’s not me who will decide on independence. It’s the people.”

The referendum will come in “a matter of months,” Barzani said. He said the Kurdistan parliament must first establish an independent electoral authority, then establish the date for the referendum that Barzani made clear will end with the creation of a state.

http://time.com/2945035/iraqi-kurds-to-vote-on-independence/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20time/topstories%20%28TIME:%20Top%20Stories%29

I wonder how this will affect the US position that a "unity government" in Iraq must precede strikes. Will unity be redefined as just sunni and shia? Does this doom any possible sunni shia unity government, even?

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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
1. Should the country simply be split into three parts?
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 03:56 PM
Jul 2014

If Sunnis and Shiites don't want to coexist, should they be forced to do so?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
2. A good question for Obama, Biden and Kerry.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 03:58 PM
Jul 2014

A better question is why we should have any say in the construct of their state(s).

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
3. I was going to say, a good question for Iraq's leaders to include ISIS/ISIL
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jul 2014

and any other insurgents.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
5. Would this be a bad thing? If this is what they want...........
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 04:23 PM
Jul 2014

what would be so wrong about it.
I might hope they could do this in a peaceful manner but the history of this strongly suggests it will get bloody.
Current borders were drawn by outside forces and not by the people living there.
Let them work this out for themselves. By no means take this to mean let them kill each other. If they can do this without bloodshed so much the better.

The only thing I feel strongly about is the U.S should have minimal involvement.
Democracy means the will of the people. We, are not those people. We have our own problems to solve.

Unless something becomes a well defined, clear and present threat we should keep 'hands off'.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
6. I prefer the "no place for the US military in this" side.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 04:25 PM
Jul 2014

No troops, no advisers, no drones, no Apache helicopters, no Hellfire missiles, no arms deals....

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
8. As of now, the Obama Administration opposes it, or at the least, does not support it
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jul 2014

and "still believes" Iraq can remain unified.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
9. Another "99% in favor" type referendums with no international monitors.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jul 2014

The legitimacy of referendums is lost in situations like this.

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