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sheshe2

(83,746 posts) Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:42 PM Jul 2014

Go home SCOTUS You are drunk

Handy Links & Talking Points for Arguing About Hobby Lobby Case

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If you're anything like me, the last 36 hours or so have been filled with rage, tears, and yelling obscenities at the Supreme Court over it's appalling ruling allowing employers to refuse to provide health insurance coverage for some forms of birth control. This blatantly sexist travesty was compounded this morning when SCOTUS clarified that the decision is not limited to the four types of contraception specified in the Hobby Lobby case, but extends to ALL methods of birth control.

In light of the number of times I've have had to engage in debate with friends, family members, coworkers and random people on the internet as to why the Hobby Lobby ruling is terrible for women, I've compiled a list of the most frequent arguments I've heard in support of the decision and some (hopefully!) handy links and talking points refuting said arguments.

1. Should the government be able to force companies to pay for something that goes against their religious beliefs? What about their right to religious liberty?

On one level, this all stems from the Citizens United ruling. This is the infamous case in which the Court held that corporations are 'people'. There are obviously a number of real, substantial, non-trivial differences between a person and a corporation, including but not limited to the fact that an actual human being can: A.) die, as opposed to going out of business; b.) go to jail if they commit a crime, as opposed to, you know, banks and Wall Street firms that are "too big to fail" or completely unaccountable; etc. Many people, myself included, do not believe that corporations should be considered 'people' under the law. SCOTUS (well, at least 5 of them) and I disagree bitterly on this point. So, my to answer the question of "should the government be able to force companies to pay for something that goes against their religious beliefs?" is that yes, I think that the government should have that power.

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