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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPastor Rick Warren Wants Obama to Let Religious Groups Discriminate Against LGBT
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/07/02/pastor-rick-warren-wants-obama-to-let-religious-groups-with-federal-contracts-discriminate-against-lgbt-americans/Because it wasnt enough for Hobby Lobby to deprive female employees of comprehensive contraception coverage, Rick Warren and more than a dozen other Protestant and Catholic leaders are now demanding that President Obama give religious companies with federal contracts the ability to discriminate against LGBT employees. Because if the Supreme Court can bend over backwards for Yahweh, so can Obama, right?
It all has to do with an upcoming executive order that Obama said he would sign. The order would ban all federal contractors from discriminating against employees because of their sexual orientation or gender identity. Because we dont know what the order will say, the faith leaders are trying to make sure it doesnt apply to religious groups. Because Jesus loves to discriminate. (The Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which the Senate passed last fall but the do-nothing House hasnt acted upon, includes the religious exemption.)
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No church will be harmed if Obama doesnt issue a religious exemption. If he does include it, though, he will be perpetuating the harm that many of these churches including Warrens Saddleback Church have caused to people across the country.
Not very reachy-outy of him.
shenmue
(38,501 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Always has been and always will be.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)I'm sure he views the Hobby Lobby decision as a validation.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I don't know why people thought he'd change his ways. That letter reads like he's been drafting it for weeks.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)That's what Rick Warren's defenders said to LGBT people when this bigot was rewarded for his hate speech with the honor of giving the Inaugural prayers. I will never forget that. But will they apologize? Of course not. Barack Obama called that bigot 'America's Minister' which is an insult to Americans, and to ministers when he selected this hate monger at the urgings of Josh DuBois, another hate monger.
Obama has never apologized for that insulting, crass piece of self indulgence by him and his Rickypoo.
He should.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Never did get apologies for that one, did we.
One little prayer.
Just like one "narrow" case.
Finally, I won't be holding my breath waiting for the apologies for those who wanted the leader of the RCC for president or attacked other women and LGBTs for speaking the truth about what was really going on.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Quiet today, aren't they?
KG
(28,749 posts)boy, how many time was that lame justification used right here on DU....
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)(insert photos of crying babies here)
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Don't ruin the Inaugural for everybody else! So selfish!
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Those Rick Warren/inaugural prayer threads were huge...
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)You know what's sad? I saw so many names there of LGBT DUers who are no longer with us here because they were literally driven from this "progressive" site by the vitriol. It really made me tear up.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)towards anyone who deviates from the party line.
I can hardly bear it and truly grieve those who decided to leave. Those threads however were pretty eye-opening and I don't blame them for leaving even as we celebrated Obama's victories.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Some of the most ardent voices against LGBT rights and equality now pose here as champions of the cause.
Their own lack of any sense of personal accountability speaks much about their sort of politics.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Amazing, ain't it.
QC
(26,371 posts)Yes, I have noticed it as well.
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)edhopper
(33,188 posts)made a mistake inviting him to speak the inauguration.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Some things are just wrong, and reading several days of posters trying to shine that turd was an eye-opening experience.
edhopper
(33,188 posts)volunteering and voting for Obama.
But that doesn't mean everything he does is right and needs to be defended.
He makes mistakes, some big, some small. This was a small one, but a mistake none the less.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Both towards those who objected because it was bigoted Rick Warren and towards atheists who objected that there was any prayer at all.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)With only a small number of us objecting to Rick Warren and many hundreds more telling us off for our "poutrage".
I'll be curious if anyone confesses to being wrong about that... now.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I'd like to think that if I were ever that spectacularly wrong about something, especially after digging in my heels about it, I'd have enough shame to cough up even a brief "I'm sorry."
underpants
(182,271 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)...against them.
CrispyQ
(36,225 posts)Face first into your mashed potatoes, please, you despicable bigot.
Obama choosing this asshole for his invocation was a slap in the face.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Two things that were claimed over and over as the "plus" to having him at the Inaug.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)If Obama includes a religion exception, he might as well not issue an order at all. After Hobby Lobby, including the exception would mean ANY contractor could claim it.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)like many other people do, including myself. No, the money comes first, he speaks as if he is compelled to take that cash.
They know if they don't take the contracts, someone else will. Their own uselessness will be highlighted, the superiority of non religious social services will become clear as day.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Hobby Lobby donated some very valuable land to Warren. Warren is just being the front man for the group.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/church-310690-green-lobby.html
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)We'll see if this spurs a wider investigation.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)They prop up Rick, he pushes the agenda.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The CR is an internal threat with real power to destroy this country.
In short, Rick Warren is worse than OBL and company.
roody
(10,849 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Not sure how that relates here.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Initech
(99,912 posts)After they're both arrested for crimes against humanity for what they did to Uganda.
Beaverhausen
(24,466 posts)Is it religious if one or more owners follows a certain religion? Is it a church? Help me out here.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)They get federal contracts for doing that kind of work.
hatrack
(59,439 posts)"America's Pastor" or whatever.
Bite me, Rick.