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21 Men Holding Signs Quoting Their Rapists (Original Post) ZombieHorde Jul 2014 OP
I wish them all the best they can find. I have a struggle with violence against everyone roguevalley Jul 2014 #1
thanking these men Skittles Jul 2014 #2
Agree LoisB Jul 2014 #3
Yes they are PumpkinAle Jul 2014 #18
k&r thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #4
Thank you to these men for speaking out! pleinair Jul 2014 #5
Very courageous onecaliberal Jul 2014 #6
Brave men... I wish that I were so brave. tymorial Jul 2014 #7
I am sorry that this happened to you Rhiannon12866 Jul 2014 #12
I know it was difficult to share this. Thanks for YOUR bravery. n/t Tess49 Jul 2014 #13
Very sorry this happened to you. Agschmid Jul 2014 #15
I am so sorry. yardwork Jul 2014 #16
Welcome to DU wryter2000 Jul 2014 #17
You ARE that brave. You just proved it. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #19
... IronLionZion Jul 2014 #27
Betrayal in any form is always heinous, but rape is one of the worst. Very brave of you IrishAyes Jul 2014 #33
You are brave now. Thanks. nilram Jul 2014 #39
heartbreaking. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #8
This makes me so sad. n/t FourScore Jul 2014 #9
Rape is wrong no matter who. uppityperson Jul 2014 #10
I applaud anybody who can find the strength to do this mythology Jul 2014 #11
Years Ago Children Obeyed grilled onions Jul 2014 #14
Rape is such a horrific crime. liberalmuse Jul 2014 #20
k&r LeftishBrit Jul 2014 #21
True. tymorial Jul 2014 #23
((gentle hug)) Be well brave tymorial! riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #25
Sad. They are definitely brave. cyberswede Jul 2014 #22
Heartbreaking and also incredibly brave riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #24
Mercy shenmue Jul 2014 #26
I shudder to think of the RW comments on an article like this. It does take guts to say Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #28
Sadly its not just the rw. tymorial Jul 2014 #29
True. We are all socialized and unconsciously are burdened with unnecessary, unhelpful Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #55
The article says 1 in 3 women have been or will be sexually assaulted elias49 Jul 2014 #30
Whenever I see this subject, I try to recommend an excellent movie about IrishAyes Jul 2014 #31
I remember seeing at the time. You're right; it was excellent. n/t winter is coming Jul 2014 #32
I understand that movie is used in therapy groups, it was so good. IrishAyes Jul 2014 #34
Here it is, 1985, starred Richard Crenna and Meredith Baxter, impressive cast: Rhiannon12866 Jul 2014 #38
"Deliverance" is another one. bananas Jul 2014 #42
Full movie on Youtube: IronLionZion Jul 2014 #44
The victims' fear and guilt is the predators' secret weapon McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #35
We have a violent society. Healing to these and all victims of rape. AllyCat Jul 2014 #36
This^^^^^^ JNelson6563 Jul 2014 #53
I wish I could rec the responses to this thread. ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #37
Mine said: It's like I raped you. HAHA! You know you wanted it. Behind the Aegis Jul 2014 #40
"what were they wearing?" guys are such sluts you know. pansypoo53219 Jul 2014 #41
Incredibly brave. MerryBlooms Jul 2014 #43
Thanks to those who provided links to the movie I mentioned. IrishAyes Jul 2014 #45
Regardless of who is the victim, people need to remember that Skidmore Jul 2014 #46
Speaks volumes that certain voices are absent in this thread. nt DRoseDARs Jul 2014 #47
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #48
Right. Thanks for kicking it. redqueen Jul 2014 #49
Not everyone sees every thread. ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #50
Rape is a vicious heinous crime etherealtruth Jul 2014 #51
It is. And it's long past time men started speaking up redqueen Jul 2014 #52
Exactly etherealtruth Jul 2014 #54

pleinair

(171 posts)
5. Thank you to these men for speaking out!
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jul 2014

Kudos to these courageous men for taking the risk and speaking out! Wishing for a world where rape and violence didn't happen--but since this is in our world, we have to expose these crimes and work for justice.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
7. Brave men... I wish that I were so brave.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:16 PM
Jul 2014

I was raped when I was 22 years old. I am bisexual and was recently out of the closet at the time. Two "friends" of mine took me out to dinner for my birthday. They were an older couple and I didn't know many gay/bisexual men in Rhode Island (this was in the early days of the internet.. 1999). I met them on the IRC and we would get together for coffee every now and again. I had met them enough times that I thought that I could trust them. That night they slipped something into my cocktail at the restaurant. I vagualy remember the events of the rest of the night but at 2am I knew something was very wrong and I got out of the house. I remember them telling me later that I had "injected a new spice into their relationship and love life." They thanked me. My rape screwed me up for a long time and it probably still is. I never told anyone except for the counselor who helped me get sober... and now.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
12. I am sorry that this happened to you
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:40 PM
Jul 2014

I hope it helps to know you can talk about it here. Welcome to DU! You're among friends.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
15. Very sorry this happened to you.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:44 PM
Jul 2014

I appreciate your bravery for sharing and I encourage you to always work to help this from happening to others.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
33. Betrayal in any form is always heinous, but rape is one of the worst. Very brave of you
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jul 2014

to tell your story; I'm sure there are readers who can't/won't say anything but will still benefit from hearing it. As others have said, you're very welcome here and most will support you. If some POS tries anything, we'll make him/her think twice before repeating it.

nilram

(2,886 posts)
39. You are brave now. Thanks.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 01:30 AM
Jul 2014

Really, two rapes -- the first one by drugging you, so you couldn't resist the second. Cowardly, shameful, and dreadfully hostile of them. You're not to blame for any of it.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
11. I applaud anybody who can find the strength to do this
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:35 PM
Jul 2014

It takes an incredible amount of courage to do so.

grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
14. Years Ago Children Obeyed
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jul 2014

They were adults and you were a kid. They demanded--they took and you had to take it. It was pounded in your head. They did not think that that fear you had ground into you could backfire when others who also knew about the word obey could so easily use it against you. There was also the snitch factor. If you told there would be dire consequences. Many of us did not have a strong bond with a parent to know they would believe you over Uncle Bob or that babysitter down the street. Parents did to educate their offspring in a firm way but not scare them into secrecy.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
20. Rape is such a horrific crime.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:44 PM
Jul 2014

The rapist usually goes on to rape more people, and most likely will be let off with a slap on the hand in the worst case scenario, because there are some men (and to a much lesser extent, some women) who do not see anything wrong with violating others, taking at will. They're in our highest courts. The victim? They are usually demonized if they dare come forward, along with having to deal with PTSD, trust issues, and so many other things for the remainder of their lives.

I honestly can't comprehend how someone willing to rape another human being could ever become a decent person. Usually they are the ones who cry the loudest when they are caught, as if they are the true victims. I can't comprehend anyone who would blame a child for being molested or another human being for being the victim of rape. These people are no better than the rapists, because they give them sanctuary, allowing this heinous crime to continue.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
23. True.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 05:37 PM
Jul 2014

This is very true I was raped by two men and I felt tremendous shame that I remained silent. I can't imagine the shame a man feels if he is raped by a woman given that we live in a society where a significant portion believe this to be an impossibility. We have other portions who have minimized the suffering of those men by changing what happened to them from rape to "made to penetrate." Anyway, I have been reading for a long time but this subject is one that I feel strongly about (for obvious reasons) and felt the need to contribute. As for the person who said I felt save posting here: I believe that most of the posters here are honest and good people. that being said if I was forced to use my facebook account to use my real name, I probably would not have posted this. Just like most people, I too am a prisoner to expectations of gender.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
28. I shudder to think of the RW comments on an article like this. It does take guts to say
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 10:29 PM
Jul 2014

fk it and share about something like this, and that's just another example of how fked up our society is.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
29. Sadly its not just the rw.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 11:21 PM
Jul 2014

Gender expectations are not necessarily political. I would concur that it is worse on the right but gender expectations intersect all aspects of our culture. Before I married my wife, I dated a black man for several years and he feared sharing his sexual preference with his family and community. He knew what had happened to me before we met and he told me that he would rather come out as gay than tell anyone that he was raped. Sigh, he died in a car accident 2 years ago. He was the nicest most gentle person that I have ever known. I hope he is in a better place and finally has some peace.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
55. True. We are all socialized and unconsciously are burdened with unnecessary, unhelpful
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 03:20 PM
Jul 2014

gender expectations. And many people never question or examine them.

Sorry about your friend. RIP.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
30. The article says 1 in 3 women have been or will be sexually assaulted
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 11:24 PM
Jul 2014

in their lifetime. WTF??
That is friggin outrageous!
I never knew it was that bad. Honestly!

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
31. Whenever I see this subject, I try to recommend an excellent movie about
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 11:41 PM
Jul 2014

male victims called 'The Rape of Richard Beck' about a police officer who was typically insensitive until it happened to him. It was a tv movie but a groundbreaker for its time. Starred Richard Crenna. It's bound to be available somewhere, but I don't have a link. If someone wants it and can't find it, I'll help you look.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
42. "Deliverance" is another one.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 06:20 AM
Jul 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliverance

Widely acclaimed as a landmark picture, the film is noted both for the memorable music scene near the beginning, with one of the city men duelling on guitar with a strange country boy playing banjo, that sets the tone for what lies ahead—a trip into unknown and potentially dangerous territory—and for its notorious "squeal like a pig" male rape scene. In 2008, Deliverance was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
35. The victims' fear and guilt is the predators' secret weapon
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 12:04 AM
Jul 2014

so the more people who speak out, the less power the predators have.

Behind the Aegis

(53,949 posts)
40. Mine said: It's like I raped you. HAHA! You know you wanted it.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 03:24 AM
Jul 2014

Sexual assault and rape against males is still a source of jokes, nervous laughter, suspicion, and blame. There is still a long way to go in helping boys, but especially men, overcome various issues associated with being a victim of rape.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
45. Thanks to those who provided links to the movie I mentioned.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 09:47 AM
Jul 2014

Not only did it benefit from an impressive cast, but one of equally brave artists. At the time it could've been a career killer to appear in such a production. I've always thought the world of Richard Crenna, for this movie above all. Never was a finer actor on the planet.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
46. Regardless of who is the victim, people need to remember that
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 10:02 AM
Jul 2014

rape is an act of violence and exerting control. It is a crime against humanity. One of the worst.

Response to DRoseDARs (Reply #47)

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
49. Right. Thanks for kicking it.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jul 2014

And thanks also for taking a huge stinking dump in this thread, which was great before I read your shit stirring turd of a post.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
52. It is. And it's long past time men started speaking up
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 01:26 PM
Jul 2014

and killing off the myth that all males want sex all the time and if they don't there's something wrong with them.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
54. Exactly
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 01:28 PM
Jul 2014

Those men were brutally victimized ... like all victims of rape ... through no fault of their own

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