Revealed: 'Collect It All' NSA Targets Those Seeking Web Privacy

[wildbilln864]

"Merely visiting privacy-related websites is enough for a user's IP address to be logged into an NSA database,' says new report."
more here.

[winter is coming]

1. "Other platforms targeted by the program include the LINUX open source operating system"

[delrem]

2. I can't see any way to stop it.

True, it's a betrayal of everything that the USA supposedly believes in.
True, the alternate realities promoted to cover for the betrayal aren't consistent.

But I think people will submit.

[JDPriestly]

22. But that does not change the fact that we will all eventually regret the submission of the people

to such overbearing abuse of government authority. Someone somewhere in our government will make evil use of the system that has been established for whatever "good" reason. It's just the way this kind of system works. It's a real pity.

It is important to have checks and balances and a free press. The NSA programs just make those important institutions very weak. The NSA programs nullify checks and balances and a free press because they are watching and hovering over enough of the communication in the world and in America to cause each of us to know that they could be watching our communications any time they wish. That is called chilling speech. Just knowing you could be watched even if you are not being watched causes you to think before expressing yourself. The First Amendment was written to enable each of us to express ourselves freely. Now, our speech is chilled.

And the people, the employees, the managers who do the spying are in a class unto themselves. As are those who work in the FISA courts. They are the chosen few who can, when they wish, with minimal paperwork and red tape, completely "own" any person they wish to "own."

[merrily]

3. When this first came out, I heard about a privacy browser and

used it for a while, just because. I guess they have my number, literally and figuratively.

sigh

[winter is coming]

6. I have a lot of privacy addons not because of the NSA, but because of the merchants. n/t

[merrily]

13. I did it purely on principle.

My browsing habits are so boring the only time I even stumbled on porn, which everyone claims shows up unwanted at the drop of a hat, was when I was trying to figure out a joke someone had posted. I didn't recognize one of the words and BAM. One time in over 10 years of internet.

You know what I ads I am seeing tonight on DU? Tickets for the Magna Carta exhibit at the Boston Museum of Fine Arts, which I posted about, and pretty dinnerware, which I love. I may be the only posters who loves her DU ads, that's how boring my browsing habits are. But, I "went private" on principle.

Then, I had some problems. It probably wasn't the browser, but I went back to Mozilla, just in case.

Ya know what? Maybe I will go back to the privacy browser. Maybe we all should, just to clog their fucking unconstitutional system. Think I'll post that as a reply to the OP, too.

[JDPriestly]

23. I garden on a large cement area in my back yard. (Someone else put in the cement

before we moved into the house.)

So I was looking for large pots, big enough to plant tomatoes. This was before marijuana was legalized. I bet I'm on their list too. Never did find quite the pots I wanted.

[merrily]

24. Sorry to be dense, but did you mean searching for mucho pots

would get you suspected of illegal marijuana use? If not, I am totally missing the reference.

If I ever grow fruits or veggies, it will be tomatoes first, with heirloom seeds. You can't duplicate soil and a climate, but there is no substitute for a very fresh New Jersey beefsteak tomato. Maybe I'd even get some NJ soil from my relatives.

[JDPriestly]

25. I bet New Jersey tomatoes are good. It rains a lot there. Good air. The soil is probably

also good. New Jersey is not called the garden state for nothing.

Homegrown tomatoes are the best. You cannot buy anything better than a fresh, just off the vine homegrown tomato. I grow some heirloom.

i just googled for pots.

[merrily]

28. Happy planting--and even happier eating.

In summer, I loves me a meal of caprese salad with an ear of corn.

[BillZBubb]

4. The saddest thing is the number of NSA cheerleaders here on DU.

This is supposedly a more liberal community, yet many toe the NSA line. That indicates the majority of Americans are likely willing to accept whatever NSA and other security state agencies do.

[TransitJohn]

10. That'll change when a Republican is in the White House

Count on it. Team Donkey posters don't really care about policy.

[merrily]

16. That's funny. One of them (whom I suspect) kept asking me if I had posted

against Bush's spying, when that had been revealed.

I had already made a post about that higher up in the same thread that the doofus either hadn't read or was pretending not to have seen so he, she or it could insult me. (For all I know, my own post about the Bush era may have given him the idea of exactly how to challenge me. Earlier in the thread, I had posted that I hadn't been as politically aware in the Bush era as I am now, so I had been clueless about the extent of the NSA then.)

When I said I had already answered that question upthread, he, she or it accused me of only pretending to care about the Constitution. What was supposed to be my real motivation? He, she or it never said. I guess I was supposed to be a Republican or an Obama hater or a Libertarian or something, but my "real" motive was never specified. (Some shills probably know exactly how to attempt to discredit critics of the USG by insinuation without getting a post alerted on.)

With the exception of a couple of posters whom I suspect of being paid shills, they have only about 4 moves, mostly nasty, and they use them over and over. So fucking boring. If I owned a board, I'd ban anyone I suspected of being a boring shill.

[bobGandolf]

26. I joined too...

[merrily]

29. Sorry, I must be sleepy today. What did you join?

[bobGandolf]

31. No, it's not you!

For the life of me I can not remember what I was referring to. Was on vaca. past week. Losing my mind a bit faster these days.

[merrily]

15. I'll bet you my home at least some have a financial stake of

some kind in the posts they are making.

To sweeten the bet: mortgage free.

[snooper2]

5. I hate the NSA coordinated 4th spam attacks

The bastards REALLY need something better to do!

[winter is coming]

7. Well, it's been ages since I got the MAKE PENIS FAST spam.

Maybe the NSA is redirecting all of that particular spam to themselves, believing that if you collect enough of 'em, you'll get a bigger dick.

[snooper2]

11. that spam doesn't even make sense LOL, make penis fast?

maybe=
Okay, you are 6 months in and you know it is going to be a boy- make penis FAST!

Or, is that some kind of Russian dish we never heard of before?

[winter is coming]

12. I don't remember what the real spam said, but there was a mock version

of it that was a take-off on chain letters. It was something like "cut off an inch of your penis and send it to six people and you'll get a gazillion inches back".

[Uncle Joe]

8. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, wildbillin.

[wildbilln864]

14. not a p. UJ n/t

[WillyT]

17. K & R !!!

[TheBlackAdder]

18. Supposedly, visiting BoingBoing.net puts you on that list too. nt

[BlueCheese]

19. Happy July 4th everyone.

The surveillance state is completely out of control.

[Ed Suspicious]

20. Well, I'm on there I guess.

[dballance]

21. I've Used TOR just to see what it was like. So I'm on the list.

I've also played around with GnuPG and several versions of LINUX. Most recently Ubntu and Debian. So I'm very much on their list I guess.

FUCK YOU NSA.

[wildbilln864]

27. and fuck em again! nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. "Land of the free.." False advertising.