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How can the SCOTUS bench be increased to 11 from the 9? (Original Post) samsingh Jul 2014 OP
No. former9thward Jul 2014 #1
FDR tried to increase the size of the court. murielm99 Jul 2014 #2
Ha, good luck with that. Franklin Roosevelt tried it in 1937 The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2014 #3
Fascinating. I never knew about this. arcane1 Jul 2014 #8
There were political cartoons at the time. emsimon33 Jul 2014 #12
no Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #4
Been tried before. longship Jul 2014 #5
FDR gave this a shot. Wasn't very well received. cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #6
No and nor should it be. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #7
no pipoman Jul 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #10
Do you really think this is something that could be done by executive order? tritsofme Jul 2014 #11
Impeach the SC Taliban Five emsimon33 Jul 2014 #13
The size of the Court is determined by Congress. PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #14
so if we decisively could win back Congress samsingh Jul 2014 #15
Not likely SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2014 #18
I think that people are saying that i t couldn't be done el_bryanto Jul 2014 #16
I remember it being called "the switch in time that saved nine." LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #19
if anyone Democrat did what thomas has done they would be pressured to resign samsingh Jul 2014 #21
Not going to happen. ohnoyoudidnt Jul 2014 #17
Can you imagine the media uproar if one side tried to do this? N/t Calista241 Jul 2014 #20
the media roars when Obama creates jobs samsingh Jul 2014 #22

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
12. There were political cartoons at the time.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:35 PM
Jul 2014

From my American History course in high school, I remember one that depicted FDR trying to add sardines to a can of sardines. The Sardines in the can had the justices' names on them.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Been tried before.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:23 PM
Jul 2014

IMHO, it would take an act of congress. Good luck with that, President Obama.

FDR tried it and would likely have gotten himself impeached if he had succeeded.

Response to samsingh (Original post)

tritsofme

(17,367 posts)
11. Do you really think this is something that could be done by executive order?
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jul 2014

Why wouldn't another president, or this one, have not done it whenever they where frustrated by a Supreme Court majority?

Even then, do you think this is the sort of thing a president ought to be able to do by fiat?

This sort of question, along with the fact that many are apparently completely ignorant of FDR's famously disastrous attempt to enlarge the Court is really kind of scary.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
14. The size of the Court is determined by Congress.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:45 PM
Jul 2014

At one time there were 10 justices on the Court.

Since The Judiciary Act of 1869 there have been 9.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiciary_Act_of_1869

samsingh

(17,590 posts)
15. so if we decisively could win back Congress
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jul 2014

then it could be done.

I guess age limits would also have to be passed by Congress on the SCOTUS

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
18. Not likely
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:55 PM
Jul 2014

The Constitution has always been interpreted such that federal judges have lifetime appointments, and you can't undo that unless the Constitution is amended to do it.

Retirement, death or impeachment are the only ways out...

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
16. I think that people are saying that i t couldn't be done
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:51 PM
Jul 2014

I don't know if it legally couldn't be done - it just didn't succeed when FDR tried it. And in part because one of the justices stopped rilling all the new deal programs as unconstitutional, so he didn't push for it as hard as he might have. I think it could possibly be done, but politically it would be very very very risky.

but the current set up has risks too as we can see.

Bryant

LuvNewcastle

(16,834 posts)
19. I remember it being called "the switch in time that saved nine."
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 06:06 PM
Jul 2014

That's really why it wasn't pursued further -- the Court stopped thwarting all the New Deal programs. I think it could be done under the right circumstances; it just hasn't been so important since the New Deal days.

But these 5 Justices we have are way behind the times of the country, and something needs to be done to stop them. I think Thomas should have been impeached a long time ago due to his lying about hundreds of thousands in income on his tax returns. Maybe if the process was started in that direction, he would resign rather than go through a trial. Either way would be fine with me. He's been a national embarrassment for long enough.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
17. Not going to happen.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jul 2014

We just have to hope we win in 2016 and can subsequently replace 1 or 2 cons on the court.

samsingh

(17,590 posts)
22. the media roars when Obama creates jobs
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 10:44 PM
Jul 2014

I think they would have to be managed

in fact, if they saw the Democrats are starting to stand up for themselves and not taking bullshit, the media may be as afraid of us as they are about repugs.

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