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Apparently, every single woman on the planet is fat. I weight 115 at 5'4" and in my gardening clothes, I look "fat".
What in the hell propels people to say such things to other people?
And yes, I got told that today, and I work out 3 days a week.
Should I weigh 80 lbs.? No, then I'm "too skinny".
It's an ugly barb that people throw to shame people.
Drew Richards
(1,558 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)He's extremely critical of the appearance of women.
Drew Richards
(1,558 posts)...sigh...oh dad you're such an old chauvenist.
Body shaming women went out with martinis and pipe smoking...
Just a thought...it might not work but then again...it might make him think before he speaks.
tavernier
(12,380 posts)Someone forgot to call the Keys and let us know!
We've got your Key Lime Martinis, Guava Martinis, Coconut Martinis, Papaya Martinis... Banana Martinis, Sea Salt Martinis...
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Not about weight, but about many other things. Critical is critical.
It had a very negative effect on my life. The critic lives on in my head.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)It lives on in your head.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)My father died of prostate cancer about 2 years ago, at 88.
He actually had many positive qualities, but the critical part was passed on to me. He was a major cynic and pessimist, too.
I thought he and my mother were very close, and she wouldn't last without him, but she has blossomed quite a bit since he has gone. She actually seems happier.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)He told me I didn't water the plants enough, my belly was hanging out, he didn't like my hair and generally excoriated my appearance and care for my plants. Which are thriving, and have tomatoes popping off of the vine, cucumbers and peppers.
It was like he was yelling at me just to yell. WHILE I was already watering my garden.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Family means a great deal to me.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Iris
(15,652 posts)I understand family is important to you but you should be aware that that behavior is not acceptable.
MADem
(135,425 posts)iced tea. It might take the edge off and he'll be less of a jerk to you.
Sometimes people yell when they are in pain--physical, mental, emotional, you name it. He may be dealing with some issue and that's making him take it out on you.
I see that shit happen on this board sometimes. It's pretty obvious when it's going down. No fun to be on the receiving end, of course.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... and what you are suffering from, whether you know it or not, is PTSD. Father's Day... is it a hard day for you, what with all the advertisements on commercial TV and in the newspapers, etc? What I did when my own father was verbally cruel to me, was I moved as far away from him as I could. Like out of state. Don't let someone else define you, even if it is your father, or boyfriend, or family member, or friend. There is nothing wrong with you. Sounds like you don't have an ounce of fat on your body! Listen, you let that crap go in one ear and out the other from now on. Look him in the eye and say "Fuck you!" (even if you don't use such language.)
And if you can't do that, just say "Right back at you!" Be strong and defend numero uno.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I needed to hear it.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)incorrect.
Then tell him to look at BMI charts for women's height/weight
He can find them by googling.
Make him do the work. Tell him he'll burn some calories, so obviously he
will appreciate doing the work himself.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)of everything that doesn't conform. I don't conform, and I nearly lost enough weight at one time to be hospitalized. I'm WAY better now. I was meant to have muscles and meat on my body.
I wish he could see that, and appreciate it. I think he does, sometimes, but it is a kneejerk reaction to criticize everything I do in case I might fail at it, he was right - I failed, I succeeded - his "encouragement" worked.
Hekate
(90,645 posts)Really, I mean it.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)You should see me in my beekeeeping suit! Yes, I could stand to lose 15 lbs. I just shut the noise out! (((Hug)) You are beautiful just as you are as we are all!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)That is so awesome! I've seen a couple of beehives and they are very neat!
Quantess
(27,630 posts)A lot of parents live in glass houses while throwing stones, so to speak. Or does he have a perfect figure?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and apparently everyone on the planet needs to lose weight, too.
840high
(17,196 posts)confidence in yourself.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)It is an ugly barb and insults are most often indicators of one's own lack of self esteem and feelings of inadequacy.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)which sounds more likely. Ask hum when he learned gansta and he can speak jive like Barbara Billingsley in Airplane.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)But regardless, nobody has the right to tell someone else they are fat, except maybe their doctor. So maybe I'm overweight. Whoever is not my doctor can just STFU about my weight and what they think of it. Don't like the way I look? Don't look at me. And, once again, STFU.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)We've all been conditioned by the media for years that being fat, especially as a woman where appearance, they tell us, is all we have to offer, is the Worst. Thing. Ever. And actually offensive to others. So, it's an insult people can toss at someone and expect it to mean something to that person.
But yes, it's ugly and hateful.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)women's appearances. I hit 79 lbs. at one point, and I have no desire to go back there, but it is easy to backslide with people that nag that you aren't thin/fat/slender/muscular/perfect enough. I'm old enough that it shouldn't hurt me, but it does. It's so random.
My favorite jeans I got from the little girls' department in a 16. But I'm fat.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,833 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)He sounds awful. And you don't sound fat at all.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)the normal range for 5 feet 4.
http://www.rush.edu/rumc/page-1108048103230.html
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Warpy
(111,246 posts)There is a very large segment of the population that believes the only criterion for assigning value to a female human being under 50 is how "hot" she is.
I'm sorry some woman hating moron spit that at you today. That would have been my cue to list all his/her physical shortcomings.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)Turned 50 this year and no more objectification. I feel so happy and free. At last.
cali
(114,904 posts)I'm not interested in attracting male attention at this point in my life. I like to look and feel good for me.
Aristus
(66,319 posts)I don't know how many men out there are like me, but a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman, over or under 50. Don't know why 50 has to be the age of the cloak of invisibility. But a lot of the over-50 women I know are astoundingly sexy.
And if they have curves, and are confident in their skin, so much the better.
Not every man was educated about women along the "she's-only-beautiful-if..." convention.
This guy sounds sad. He only sees a limited number of 'beautiful' women.
I see them everywhere!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)They would knock your socks off if you were 25.
It was my dad. I think he was trying again to shame me into being "better".
Aristus
(66,319 posts)I was in the Army, stationed on Fort Knox, Kentucky. It was right around the time Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell was starting up; 1993, I think.
I hung around Louisville's gay community in the St. Matthews District at the time. I'm straight, but I was a fan of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and managed to earn a part as 'Eddie' in the local floor show. I was kind of a novelty to my friends: a gay-friendly soldier in the notoriously (at the time) homophobic Army.
One night, we were at a friend's house, having a good time and doing some shots. Another member of the circle whom I didn't know started up a conversation with me. She was a lesbian, a successful businesswoman, very glamorous, and incredibly attractive. She drove a souped-up black sports car that had a car-phone. (This was pretty rare in 1992.)
We talked for a little while, then she made the proposal that knocked my socks off. She asked me to accompany her to a local chamber of commerce dinner that was coming up. Although she never said so outright, I imagine she wanted me to be her 'beard'. She flattered the hell out of me. "What do you say? Think I could get a good-looking guy like you to go to this thing with me?" (I don't know about good-looking, but I had more hair and more muscles back then.)
She probably needed to show up escorted by a man. There were probably going to be a lot of conservative, homophobic Kentucky businessmen at that event, and general knowledge of her lesbianism might hurt her own business.
As it turned out, I wasn't able to go. I had a family commitment that I had to go out of town for on the night in question. Not being able to accept her offer is one of the great regrets of my life. Obviously, nothing would have happened with her. But I would have been able to spend more time with this fascinating, charismatic woman.
Socks. Knocked completely off.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Regrets
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)I purposely dress down and have gained a lot weight to finally be invisible. I don't want to look sexy! I hate male attention and I'm so happy I don't have to deal with it anymore. Sexy is overrated. The joy of getting older is not having to deal with that crap anymore. That's where I'm coming from..
Aristus
(66,319 posts)I'm happy that you're happy.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)I am 57 and can still get compliments from complete strangers
Aristus
(66,319 posts)Just kidding. You're hot, and you know it...
Skittles
(153,150 posts)no indeed
Aristus
(66,319 posts)pleinair
(171 posts)in whatever way makes sense to you--I wish you the best! We all need to stop giving other people permission to belittle us, if even (especially) in our own minds.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I'm trying just by opening up, and welcome to DU.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)the thing I remember most of my mother was her saying "Katherine, what is wrong with you" it was almost a mantra...
I recall meeting a woman who was overweight and not especially pretty, but she had a confidence in herself that I envied...her parents GAVE her that confidence...I wish more parents knew the importance of confidence in oneself...
Warpy
(111,246 posts)of saying things to their daughters that they'd never dream of saying to any other woman.
Then they wonder why we're not great buddies.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)and hated her family..I once told my mother, everyone loves you, and her answer was, "everyone but you"
Two things that stick in my mind...I once got angry with a cashier..and expressed that anger...and my mother wanted to disown me...and maybe adopt the cashier?
The second time was when we went to the Virginia Beach monument to Edgar Casey and they had a presentation and my mother almost fell off of her seat agreeing with every word, and shaking her head yes at every comment the presenter made...it was, to tell the truth, embarrassing.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and you aren't a mind reader, then you are not worthy.
I know that routine.
flvegan
(64,407 posts)He can be a good man, but he lashes out when the attention isn't on him. I was working in my garden and hadn't asked for his help, and he started in about "It's dry as a popcorn fart" and "your belly is hanging out of your shirt, you are getting fat" and "You aren't watering your plants" "you are ...."
You get the point.
flvegan
(64,407 posts)And to his own daughter. For shame. I do hope you are shaking that off.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)And I try my ass off every day. I'm not perfect.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)fill it with water. Then every time he says something that is nasty you spritz him with the water after awhile he will learn not to do that. Or is that puppies and bad behavior.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #49)
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winter is coming
(11,785 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)are - attacks) are often a symptom of those mental abnormalities. Another symptom is that he can't stand for attention to not be on him. Or, of course, he could just be a complete asshole. Whatever his problem is, his attacks are inexcusable and waaaay out of order.
In any case, it's not about you especially, but I know that doesn't blunt the pain of having your own parent treat you like garbage. I urge you to talk with a counselor confidentially about how to deal with your father, because he reminds me of MY father -- I had no money for counseling (way back then there weren't any free services) and it would have been of inestimable value for me if I had only been able to go. Getting help will show you how to deal with ppl like this; I guarantee through my own experience that unless you learn to deal with him effectively, assholes like him will continue to show up in your life and you won't be able to deal.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Maybe a counselor would help.
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lunatica
(53,410 posts)Then watch his mouth drop open in shock. Don't bother to tell him what those things are. If he demands to know what 'things' you find offensive just answer, 'things'. Let him wonder. He'll feel the sting and that might make him think twice before saying such things to you again.
I did it to my grandfather who criticized everyone. I said it when he started criticizing me in front of everyone in the family. You could have heard a pin drop after everyone gasped and held their breath. He was obviously shocked that anyone would say such a thing to him and in front of everyone too. He never criticized me again either in public or in private. And to top it off our relationship improved immensely. It was as if he suddenly respected me. Go figure.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)criticism is taken as shorthand for "I care". It's also tiring.
Nay
(12,051 posts)destructive and hurtful, and the claim that it is a result of caring is told to you only in order to confuse you and shut you up. It's been working, hasn't it?
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Exactly.
Nay
(12,051 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)and it does not apply to you since it is obvious you are not fat, but insulting and mocking the fat people seems to still be acceptable by many Americans.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and mocking people's appearances are just as devastating. I didn't mean to imply that being "fat" was a problem, it is a "problem" in my father's eyes no matter how slender I get. Until I did.
I hit 79 lbs. and the doctor warned me he would put me in the hospital if I lost anymore weight.
It's about the things people do to us with our body image.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)who is like my little sister since I was myself a young child when she was born, who went through treatment for anorexia just a year ago. Her situation was more about control and to a lesser extent, body image. She seems to be doing much better now.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)as anorexic or anything, but yeah, I've been fighting it for a while, and just when I have muscles and I'm healthy - "You are fat".
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Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I've recovered from it and it is still a factor in my life. This incident didn't help.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)be overly critical of my mother for much of her life. The underlying story was that my mother's older sister died suddenly six weeks after graduating as valedictorian from high school. My mother could never measure up.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I weighed 79 lbs. before the doctor warned me he would but me in the hospital. It isn't the first time I've hit 80 lbs. It feels surprisingly good, for a while. It's like a drug.
Until you are so frail you cannot function.
I still fight it.
Include exercise and muscle. You look like you are about to die - because you are.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I've been told I'm fat all the time. I have seen Koreans that are heavier than I am.
I personally think it is cruel to tell people that. What is too skinny or too fat is based on such old style thinking.
I have been struggling with weight issues the older I get. Last month I finally decided to do something about it. While I haven't made a huge amount of progress, I've made some. I figure if I don't do it now then I'll just keep putting it off.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Don't take it to extremes, though.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)that i am fat.
I just look in the mirror and know that I am not.
Words aren't gonna get me down. It's totally about body image and self confidence.
I was the tallest kid in my class til I hit high school. I tried to slouch and not show my height.
No more. I walk with my head up, shoulders back...and if I wanna wear high heels, I will.
Screw the mean people.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)because I do my best to take care of myself - but it was my father that said it. I'm not sure if he was pissed that I didn't involve him in the garden, didn't approve of what I wore in the garden (a tank and shorts?) or that he thought I was getting too healthy.
You know you're good.
Easier said than done....I know....but it's just not worth it....
Hugs
Aerows
(39,961 posts)unless it is actually *worth* it.
If you and I can figure out what is and what *is* not worth it, we would be Nobel prize worthy.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)having a caring, thoughtful, sane boyfriend and loving family is what I need. The little nieces and nephews make my every day.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Maybe next time you could ask him why he would say something so hurtful. If he says it was for your own good, point out that obviously isn't the truth, so he clearly wanted to hurt your feelings. Keep pushing at it. Remind him of your anorexia history and how his statement would be likely to cause you to injure your health. Maybe if you push it enough, he'll realize how nasty he was.
Or you could turn the hose on him
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)justification or acceptable reason for saying such a thing.
Hekate
(90,645 posts)My shoulders and hips were still comparatively wide (had a tiny waist though, this was college) because for pete's sake that happens to be my bone structure.
indeed.
On edit: This was your father?! I'm really sorry Aerows -- it was my mother who used to remind me that I had a "big" rear.
Parents can be cruel sometimes. I hope he has other redeeming virtues.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)but I'm assless.
I'm sure that part of my mother's problem (and it was her problem) was that I was so different from her in many things, though I tried like hell to be her when I was younger.
Our body structures were very different: she was 5'8" to my 5'4". She had a flat butt, and mine was curvy. She had enormous jugs and I (as she told me) was flat-chested. "Don't worry dear, they'll never sag." What teenage girl wants to hear that? Especially when all her bras are "AA" and "A"?
In truth she hated her own appearance. She matured early and grew very tall. At 10 she had her period, her height, and those boobs. She had to give up jump rope because of the bouncy-bouncy. People thought it looked weird when she played with her dolls. That's just sad.
I think she thought all of her children were beautiful, but that it was wrong to say so because it would encourage vanity. Nothing about encouraging a little self-confidence.
I don't know what your father's problem is -- but from another post upthread it sounds like his constant harping contributed mightily to a bout of anorexia. As I said before, I hope you don't have to live with him. Toxicity isn't good for you.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I'd be an empty mine. LOL
Aerows
(39,961 posts)seriously. If you trip over your pants leg without a belt and moon everyone? You might be me.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Someone has low self-esteem and needs to put you down, or they were envious of your fitness level. Or both.
Your willpower must be pretty strong to be 115 lbs. Nice work.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)at 115.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Being there and staying there are two different things.
Your back, knees and heart will thank you.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)this, but my body is strong, and I will not fade away.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)If you can't demand that he doesn't treat you that way, please spend less time with him. Just because he is family doesn't give him a free pass to treat you like that. In fact, since he is family, he should be a source of refuge and support. You deserve better and need to protect yourself.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)I want to tell you that you don't have to put up with that. I GET that family is important to you, and that you feel like you have to tolerate this stuff in order to have a relationship - but you really don't have to. I don't know how to say this exactly...let me start with my parents.
My parents were hyper critical of everything about me since the day I was born, but especially about weight. I remember being about 4 years old and my mom telling me that I had a 'fat gut' just like my dad. Then when I was 5 she put my dad on a diet (a 600 cal/day diet) and he lost 80 lbs. (long story short, most spouses wouldn't put up with being treated like how my dad was treated, but my parents are extremely codependent). After he lost his weight, both of them decided to focus on me and my weight. Every morsel of food that went in my mouth was scrutinized (and criticized if it didn't meet with approval...like if I spent my allowance on candy). I was constantly nagged to 'exercise', even though I was a bookworm. I was basically not allowed to sit and read if it wasn't storming out. I was kicked out of the house not to 'get some fresh air' but because I "had better watch it" or I would "end up fat" if I sat around all day. As a teen, I alternately skipped meals and binged. I obsessively exercised to the point I have some serious overuse injuries that plague me to this day. And my mom dragged me around to all the weight lost places - Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers...I saw doctors, nutritionists and so on. They all said I could stand to lose 'a few' pounds but generally I was a normal weight. My mom wasn't happy...she thought I should weigh less. Anyway I managed to stay a somewhat normal weight until I met my now-ex.
He asked me why I was so obsessed with calorie counts and fat grams all the time. He said he wanted me to be happy and not to worry about that stuff...to just eat like a normal person.
Well, eating like a normal person after having my metabolism all messed up by starving myself for years made me fat within a year. Then I had 4 children, each one adding a few more pounds. I'm now obese.
At first, my parents were total assholes about it to my face. Then I told them flat out, "My weight is not up for discussion". My parents are narcissists, according to a very qualified therapist my daughter saw after my divorce, and they are more concerned with how I make them look than my actual weight. So I decided that I didn't need them to make comments anymore - especially because I have 4 daughters that noticed these comments.
They weren't happy. They started trying to be 'covert' about my weight. Showing me 'health' articles, and talking about wonderful new breakthroughs in dieting. I would explain to them that I was eating very healthily (I always have) but that I had medical issues that made me prone to gain weight (in addition to all the psychological crap, I have numerous medical issues that make me 'weight loss resistant' and I had this as a teen and didn't know). They rolled their eyes at me. They still would make weight comments about others, talk about how fat and lazy and disgusting these OTHER people were then feign innocence when I would confront them. I'd say, "I told you that this topic is not up for discussion." And my parents would say, "why, honey, we weren't talking about your weight at ALL. Not EVERYTHING is about YOU, you know."
I would grin and bear it, because they were my family. But once I learned about emotional abuse and how wrong it was how my parents treated me over the years (from aforementioned therapist. Also, there are a ton of other issues besides the weight one) I started to really follow through with consequences about violating my boundaries. The last straw was my dad calling me an idiot for being fat. I walked away. Now, if they even mention anything to do with diet or weight, I walk away with a firm, "this topic is not up for discussion". It's like training a toddler, really.
Still, I've decided I cannot deal with this soul-destroying crap anymore. I've been pulling away from my parents - which isn't easy since they live 2 minutes away. I don't call them, they call me. I am the 'dutiful' daughter, but I no longer share anything personal with my parents. When I do, it's used against me. If I show any warmth or closeness with them, they use the opportunity to put me down right when I'm feeling like things are going good. No longer.
Part of the reason I stayed with my emotionally abusive ex-husband for so long was because I was so ashamed of being fat. I thought no other man on earth would ever love me. Growing up, my parents never missed an opportunity to discuss how gross and disgusting fat people were (even friends of theirs!) and would say 'how could anyone love THAT?'. They even used to criticize supermodels, FFS! I grew up thinking if I was fat, I didn't deserve love. And so, I thought I HAD to stay with the one person on earth who didn't seem to care about my weight...despite everything else he did to me.
Anyhow, I understand what it's like to have parents like that. Please know you don't have to put up with it. Put up some boundaries. Reinforce them like you are teaching a toddler to not steal the cookies. It's hard at first because we've been trained to take their abuse, but in the end it's worth it. Hugs to you...
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I have a bit of the opposite problem, but it is the same ugly coin. Who gave our parents the right to dictate that we are good human beings based upon our looks and our weight?
I am speechless because I see so much in your post.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)'narcissistic' or 'toxic' parents? After my parents pulled a fast one on me after my divorce (it's quite the story) and a friend of mine through a divorce support group sent me a book about narcissists with regards to my ex, I realized the narcissist term fit my parents more than it fit my ex (my ex, btw, is a sociopath, which the therapist, who had to deal with him with the billing, agrees he shows troubling signs of it). Anyway, I looked up narcissistic/toxic parents and found a lot of good information which explained a LOT of what I was dealing with and why. It also helped me learn to deal with them and their toxic comments. The cool thing is - they are completely and utterly predictable once you 'get' what is going on. I can now immunize myself against their comments and attacks before I go for a visit. It helps a lot.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I appreciate it, and I will look into it. I'm so sorry you had that experience, but you have 4 beautiful daughters that won't be subjected to it!
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)Unhappy with their own lives....
Phlem
(6,323 posts)I say F em.
Men walk around pot bellied in t-shirts. Does one ever hear about them looking fat?
again I say FK em.
appearances are nothing anymore.
Be happy Aerows, it shows in what you contribute to the community, and I for one like what I see.
maced666
(771 posts)Would not believe some of the things overheard among groups of 'progressive men' - not youths, when they did not know myself or my girlfriend were overhearing them. it always hurts and appears to be so prevalent.where is the refuge?
nolabels
(13,133 posts)You are HOT!!!!
Thanks
steve2470
(37,457 posts)if I was your father, I would treat you far differently. He's wrong about his weight comment, but regardless of its accuracy, he needs to accept you and love you as you are. I do my best not to criticize my son, because, god knows, there are millions of people to criticize him. He doesn't need me to be one of them. Keep reminding yourself that his approach is all wrong, no matter what his intentions may be.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and any chance he gets to get the upper hand - no matter what you are discussing - he uses it. This just happened to be my garden. Thus, I'm fat, the garden looks like shit, and I'm not doing what he suggests.
I'm not doing what he suggests because it wasn't working for the garden. I thought we were getting along while he was offering me advice on it, but suddenly, one little issue and everything in the God's world is wrong with me, the garden, my beliefs and I'm a fat idiot.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)You respect him, he respects you, simple enough. I know, a trillion times easier said than done. You deserve respect from him, keep reminding yourself of that fact. At any rate, best wishes.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Sometimes we can be cruelest to those closest to us. Know you didn't deserve to be treated that way.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I LOVE my garden and have taken so much pride in it, and for my dad to come in and insult me, my garden and my appearance really hurt.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)And I know it can be hard to take to heart, but this really was about his issues, not anything wrong with you.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)earn the approval of men. And it starts with what they look like.
You're not fat. But it doesn't matter. All of the fat people out there, and all of us who are not physically perfect, deserve dignity, deserve respect, and deserve not to be judged by their body.
It IS an ugly barb. Unhook it, turn your back, and move on. Father or not.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and apparently, that was not something I should be doing, my hair looked awful, I looked fat in my clothes, except I wasn't watering my garden enough ... blah blah blah criticism.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I wouldn't be friends with them. You are not fat. You could add some weight and still be thin.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)amidst criticisms of how I keep my garden, my hair and what I was wearing.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)But I wouldn't listen. I'm sure your garden is beautiful and what you wear is your own business. And, you are not fat.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I have tomatoes growing everywhere and so are my cucumbers. I'm sorry I don't look like a model when watering my plants, but I love them and they don't care what I look like either!
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Please just ignore them.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)You are likely at the low end of the weight scale. And a hell of a long way from being fat.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and I think my father just said that and all of the other bullshit about how my garden was growing, my hair and me in general - I can't figure out why he said all of that. My tomatoes are still growing, I have cucumbers growing out of my ears, and I'm pleased with that, even if I was wearing shitty gardening clothes and looked fat.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Some say your nose
Some say your clothes,
But, I think it's your mind!
~ Frank Zappa
Sing this to dear ole dad the next time he screws with your mind. You sound healthy and lean to me. And, if you work out 3 times a week, I'll bet you're more than fit!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Always have.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)Nobody deserves that especially not from their own parents. I don't have the faintest idea what possesses your father to say something like that, but I do know he's dead wrong. I hope you know that too.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)some of the time, but he's an asshole, too. It's totally random assholery. I'm in the yard - I was not aware that I was going to a fashion show.
ecstatic
(32,685 posts)stop making assessments on my weight, but she will never get it. It's either "you're too thin (sick)" or "wow, you're gaining weight!" She's obese, but I never make comments or judgments because I don't notice weight in my friends/family. Even though I know she can't control herself when it comes to that, it's still annoying.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)or too fat depending on the day. But always critical of everything. I could win the Nobel Prize in Science and it would be "I'm proud, but why didn't you pursue a different field like education?"
Oh, and a favorite "Why does your hair look like that?"
Aerows
(39,961 posts)some plants that NRaleighLiberal sent me flourishing, and my hair was in a baseball cap. I was wearing shitty looking clothes that people wear when they are in the garden.
I looked "fat" with "awful hair" and was wearing "rags".
My garden is still freaking awesome.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)theexwife
(52 posts)God I wish we could go back to the old days where chubby women were considered way sexier than skin and bones