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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:09 PM Jul 2014

A very important article to read:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-we-stuck-with-maliki--and-lost-iraq/2014/07/03/0dd6a8a4-f7ec-11e3-a606-946fd632f9f1_story.html?hpid=z2

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To understand why Iraq is imploding, you must understand Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki — and why the United States has supported him since 2006.

I have known Maliki, or Abu Isra, as he is known to people close to him, for more than a decade. I have traveled across three continents with him. I know his family and his inner circle. When Maliki was an obscure member of parliament, I was among the very few Americans in Baghdad who took his phone calls. In 2006, I helped introduce him to the U.S. ambassador, recommending him as a promising option for prime minister. In 2008, I organized his medevac when he fell ill, and I accompanied him for treatment in London, spending 18 hours a day with him at Wellington Hospital. In 2009, I lobbied skeptical regional royals to support Maliki’s government.

By 2010, however, I was urging the vice president of the United States and the White House senior staff to withdraw their support for Maliki. I had come to realize that if he remained in office, he would create a divisive, despotic and sectarian government that would rip the country apart and devastate American interests.

America stuck by Maliki. As a result, we now face strategic defeat in Iraq and perhaps in the broader Middle East.

....more - long article but very educational.
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A very important article to read: (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2014 OP
America stuck by Bush. GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #1
It is true that Bush Administration helped to put Maliki into power... kentuck Jul 2014 #4
The author is tooting his own horn, and also is just as arrogantly wrong TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #2
Ali Khedery has no credibility - never did malaise Jul 2014 #3
Maybe so but...? kentuck Jul 2014 #5
Yes there is information malaise Jul 2014 #6
That is true but... kentuck Jul 2014 #9
I don't trust those folks kentuck malaise Jul 2014 #10
We don't need to trust them... kentuck Jul 2014 #12
Although it reeks of butt covering, yes, it is interesting. bemildred Jul 2014 #7
Malaki is Bush's man all the way lovuian Jul 2014 #8
We should appoint a King of Iraq RobertEarl Jul 2014 #11

GeorgeGist

(25,319 posts)
1. America stuck by Bush.
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jul 2014

As a result, we now face strategic defeat in Iraq and in the broader Middle East.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
4. It is true that Bush Administration helped to put Maliki into power...
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jul 2014

Which was a big mistake.

When it came time to negotiate the SOFA (agreement) the Iraqis had completely turned against the Americans and had sided with Iran.

The article does a very good job at describing the different personalities involved in the struggle for power.

I get the impression that Maliki will never leave his position voluntarily.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. The author is tooting his own horn, and also is just as arrogantly wrong
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:21 PM
Jul 2014

as everyone who was involved in Iraq throughout the war. We could never successfully rig up a government in Iraq that would yield instant, peaceful and workable "democracy" there, no matter how many puppets we introduced and substituted. Iraqis will sort themselves out as they will--and we also can't stop Iran's influence.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
3. Ali Khedery has no credibility - never did
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:22 PM
Jul 2014
I volunteered to serve in Iraq after watching the tragedy of 9/11 from the Texas governor’s conference room.


9/11 had nothing to do with Iraq - he's a tool. Fugg him.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
5. Maybe so but...?
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jul 2014

..if you read between the lines, you can glean a lot of information that is not readily available to the public. For example, it was the Bush Administration that helped to put Maliki into power. That is an important point. Also, the purpose of the "surge" was to turn the Sunnis against al Qaeda and the Americans were able to do that with money, moreso than with the military. Then the Sunnis were dismissed by Maliki. Maliki and his henchmen never had any idea of keeping Americans in Iraq once he consolidated his power.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
6. Yes there is information
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:36 PM
Jul 2014

but he can't be trusted. He's thinks Obama's Iraq policy is a disaster. - he who thought Maliki was the solution. I detest these name calling members of the political class. They are way too self important for me.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
9. That is true but...
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jul 2014

..he was an inside player for many years. Naturally, he would like to blame it all on Obama but it was not Obama that helped put Maliki into power. I have no doubt but that he knew a lot of the players in the Iraq mess and that he was one of them. Still, I found it very informative.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
7. Although it reeks of butt covering, yes, it is interesting.
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:40 PM
Jul 2014

He does admit, at the end, that it was always folly.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. We should appoint a King of Iraq
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 02:53 PM
Jul 2014

GWB would be a most excellent choice.

We have a castle there, let's put bush in his proper place.

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