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raccoon

(31,105 posts)
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 03:45 PM Jul 2014

In the 1980's, Blue Cross at my employers wouldn't pay for

birth control pills, unless you got documentation from your doctor saying
that you were taking it for some reason other than birth control.

Same crap, different decade. I mean century.

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In the 1980's, Blue Cross at my employers wouldn't pay for (Original Post) raccoon Jul 2014 OP
They also did not pay for Viagra either, Hobby Lobby is not trying to get out of paying for Viagra. Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #1
What's the moral controversy customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #3
Um, you'd think the "sex is only for procreation" crowd truebluegreen Jul 2014 #6
On the other hand customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #7
imho they see them differently because men take one and sluts take the other. truebluegreen Jul 2014 #8
They managed to cast it in a different light customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #9
Seriously? They probably have a stronger double standard than anyone. nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #10
That's an excellent point customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #11
... nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #13
They see it differently because BC is for women, Viagra is for men. alarimer Jul 2014 #15
But did they pay for hair plugs? DURHAM D Jul 2014 #2
I remember when that happened in the mid 90s. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2014 #4
+1 nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #12
Happened to me in the 2000's RockaFowler Jul 2014 #5
When the pill first came out, it was only prescribed for Skidmore Jul 2014 #14

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. They also did not pay for Viagra either, Hobby Lobby is not trying to get out of paying for Viagra.
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 03:55 PM
Jul 2014

Why have they made the decision between Viagra and birth control?

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
3. What's the moral controversy
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 04:36 PM
Jul 2014

surrounding Viagra? I wasn't aware of any group that is morally opposed to it for any reason.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. On the other hand
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 07:18 AM
Jul 2014

you the folks here who equate Viagra with BC pills, because they think that both kinds of pills are for nothing but fun, free sex. Or at least that's what they imagine the fundies think.

Under their belief system, which the SCOTUS confirmed with the decision, Viagra doesn't take a human life, but the four forms of contraception at issue in the case do. That's why they see them differently.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
8. imho they see them differently because men take one and sluts take the other.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 09:19 AM
Jul 2014

imho the debate isn't about abortion, and it isn't about when life begins. It is about controlling women.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. They managed to cast it in a different light
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 06:58 PM
Jul 2014

and sold that to Anthony Kennedy.

As for that "women are sluts, men are studs," double standard, I'd be surprised to see fundies that hold that view. Oh, there may be a "boys will be boys" attitude, but it probably comes from the fact that the consequences of pregnancy fall far heavier on women and girls than on males, and it stems from simple paternalism.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
10. Seriously? They probably have a stronger double standard than anyone.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jul 2014

I mean, you don't see many "purity balls" for young boys and their mothers, do you?

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
11. That's an excellent point
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 07:14 PM
Jul 2014

Oh, and you know what the worst thing about being homeschooled is?

Having to take your sister to the prom.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
15. They see it differently because BC is for women, Viagra is for men.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 07:24 PM
Jul 2014

It is all about the fundy freaks controlling women's sexuality and it always has been.

If you follow any feminist writer (Amanda Marcotte for one, but I think most of them get the same crap) on Twitter or anywhere else, the responses to her criticism of this case ranged from "Keep your legs closed" to "I don't want to pay for your free sex."

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
4. I remember when that happened in the mid 90s.
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 05:28 PM
Jul 2014

There were several meetings held in the auditorium for them to go over the new year's benefit plan. The fact that they decided to cut costs by not covering BC pills cracked me up at the time. I recall turning to a co-worker and asking "what do they think pregnancy, maternity leave and covering additional dependents is going to cost them". Within 3 years (for an undisclosed reason), BC pills magically made it back to the plan.



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