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Both are "QUALIFIED" .......but, Bill's Policies under the DLC send Jobs Offshore...Nafta/GATT and setting up what our Dem Party would further with the "T's" Going forward all over the Globe.
His Presidency like Obama's ..was Fought from the Beginning by the RW....and yet we LIVE UNDER RW POLICIES to this day because of what Clinton and his DLC Promoted. From Biden promoting and installing Clarence Thomas on Supreme Court (not allowing Anita Hill's verified witnesses to appear at the last minute) and Clinton's "Welfare Reform" and his affair with Monica (which always seemed "set up"...because of "Mellon-Scaife" and "Starr Commission" and in the background Democrats ALWAYS HAVING TO DEFEND THEIR PRESIDENT FROM THE RIGHT WING CRAZIES..(yet, our Dems did some Bad Stuff that WASN'T Democratic and why we elected them).
So we move on and the furor is RW against OBAMA using every tactic they can (like they used against Clinton) BUT......the BIG BUT.....Is WHY does our PARTY have to deal with this Crap...given that it's the same playbook over and over again?
Does anyone here believe that "The Clintons" running for President as a TWO FER....is the Best that We Democrats can do?
After all these years of scandals I wonder if Dems and Republicans aren't working TOGETHER for the SAME CAUSES...but the SCANDALS HIDE...what is REALLY GOING ON?
So: Bill Clinton II under the GUISE of the "TwoFer" Presidency is what we Democrats are supposed to Get on Board for?
Both are Seasoned Corporate Insider Candidates. They know Trade Deals, Arms Deals and how "The WORLD TODAY WORKS".......Yet......there's just too much RW Views with BOTH OF THEM.
SO....WHY should this CONTINUE?
Any Thoughts or Ideas about WHY DEMOCRATS cannot have a Primary because "Hillary and Bill" or "Bill & Hillary" are ALREADY THE UNCONTESTED CANDIDATES?" The "ANNOINTED?"
Should this "BE" in our American Democracy? How did we get here? What are we in for if Hillary/Bill are Elected, or in one case, "Re-Elected?" Will the Republicans be less ornery.....just because the "Powerhouse Duo" are Elected? What would we expect from the "Powerhouse Duo" as reforms?
Impeach the Renegade Supremes? Roll Back the "T's" Trade Agreements that send more of our jobs abroad (which Obama Favors along with former "DLC" ? Privatize all our Public Resources to allow Wall Street to Pillage more cities like Detroit? Stock Market through the Roof for the 1/2% so that EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT? More Interventions in the ME and All Over the World because of "American Exceptionalism" and the influence of Israel as a Peace Keeper in ME driving US Foreign Policy? More Arne Duncan "Public School Reform" where he's in league with the Bush Family?
Where does this kind of stuff stop? Or, do folks just agree with these policies while Bill and Hillary talk the good talk for the 99%....what did they do to help the 99%?
I'm just wondering.....because if Hillary/Bill or Bill/Hillary are Inevitable for Democratic Nominees in 2016....it would seem some questions need to be asked. Yet no one seems to ask any questions except the RABID RW...that most of us Dems think are so Crazy that they are some Alien Group out of touch with the Average American ....yet...they are there and the drive the Dem Party further to the Right...which Dem Politico's don't seem to have a problem with because they have just about killed off Progressive Thinking with their Actions and Obama's War Against Whistle Blowers (which we could expect to see more of with Bill & Hillary/Hillary Bill because neither has spoken out against DEFENDING the WHISTLE BLOWERS or EDWARD SNOWDEN/JULIAN ASSANGE or BINNEY AND THE OTHERS.
So? Where are we as a DEMOCRATIC PARTY these days?
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)horse manure I've seen. Sad, real sad.
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)At Some Point, Progressives Need to Break Up With the Democratic Party
It's time to get out of this abusive relationship
Ted Rall 7/4/14 alternet.org
At a certain point, if you have any relationship with dignity, you're supposed to get sick of being used and abused. Speaking of which: liberal Democrats.
Democratic politicians act like right-wingers. Liberals vote for them anyway. The Democratic Party espouses right-wing policies. Self-described progressives give them cash...
...Hillary Clinton, a conservative warmonger ideologically indistinguishable from Dwight Eisenhower, will almost certainly be the Democratic nominee. But she isn't really a Democrat. Traditionally, Democrats were pro-worker; she and her husband pushed through NAFTA, GATT, the WTO and a slew of free-trade scams that have destroyed American jobs and depressed salaries. Democrats cared about the poor; Hillary has never so much as suggested a substantial anti-poverty initiative. Democrats aren't supposed to invade sovereign countries for the hell of it; Clinton repeatedly pushed WMD lies, voted to invade Iraq and still hasn't apologized for the two million Iraqis whose deaths she shares responsibility for. Democrats want single-payer healthcare; instead, she created the template for Obamacare, which keeps rates high to protect insurance company profits.
Yet in today's "Democratic" Party, Hillary is "inevitable."
Full article: http://www.alternet.org/some-point-progressives-need-break-democratic-party
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)horse manure I've seen
emphasis added.
I didn't throw anyone under the bus.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)respect that.
Don't start...
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)What a dumbass post.
Sid
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Great juror comments, too.
Sid
sheshe2
(83,708 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
moriah
(8,311 posts)The only people I know who seem to suggest that seem to lean a little to the right.
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)So the man (Bill Clinton) is the one pulling the strings?
Why is it that so many folks who post this kind of crap on DU are running around with Elizabeth Warren signature pics?
She would be disgusted by a post like this.
sheshe2
(83,708 posts)women are totally unable to stand on their own two feet, their most pressing concern in life is if it's time for a manicure. Nothing but fluff, we need the menz to tell us how what to do.
Oh my goodness, bring me the fainting couch, I'm going to have the vapors~
Thanks C_D! It's as sexist as hell!
aikoaiko
(34,165 posts)Tell me how you decided to bold some and all cap others?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)"Are center-left parties more effective than right-wing ones because the attack is unexpected? Is it better to warn the public or take people by surprise with 'voodoo politics?'"
This was in regards to the "Political Economy of Policy Reform" conference in January 1993, when free-market fundamentalists were trying to come up with ways of getting their ideas accepted in democracies.
On eidt: I'm commenting on the "inevitable" meme regarding Clinton's possible nomination, not about the twofer or whatever you want to call it.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Republicans are not the only ones with the stupid.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
wandy
(3,539 posts)Is it Hillary live or is it Memorex errr, I mean Bill? Is Hillary distancing herself from Obama. Has Obama come out in support of Warren?
Not being a Hillary cheerleader but by no means a Hillary hater I can only think of the words of George W Bush.
Our enemy's are ever thinking of ways to harm us. And so are we.
It's not as if the GOP would be above stirring up some descention/confusion in the ranks.
Concentrate on November. We have plenty of good choices for when the time comes.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)Usually I click eagerly on your posts, expecting something enlightening and educational. Now, I'm not here all day long, so I may have been lucky, but this post really disappoints me.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Hm? HMMMM?