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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 12:59 PM Jul 2014

Why You Don’t Know Obama Has Created 4.5 Million Jobs (& why Dems could lose in 2014-16)

Chris Matthews was ranting about this last night. Dems need more cheerleaders, less "Debby Downers"

---almost 300,000 jobs added in June;
-a near TRIPLING of the Dow since Obama took over, from 6500 in Mar 2009 to 17,000 now;
-unemployment down from 10.5% to 6.1% now.


Why You Don’t Know Obama Has Created 4.5 Million Jobs
7-7-2014 Daily Beast Michael Tomasky

Do you have any idea how many more jobs Obama has created than Bush did? You don’t, because liberals are less likely than conservatives to cheerlead.
The terrific June jobs report may be the signal we’ve been waiting for that we’re finally turning the psychic corner. The overall jobs number was great at 288,000, and the unemployment rate was down to 6.1 percent. But the most important number was that the employment-to-population ratio, which many economists think of as the truest measure of the jobs market, was up a bit to 59 percent, a high for the recovery, indicating that maybe more people are finally out looking for work than staying home.

A lot of liberals puzzle over why the Obama administration isn’t getting more credit, or doesn’t do a better job of making sure it gets credit, for such good economic news. There are a lot of theories, and most of them hold varying amounts of water. But the main reason to me is fairly obvious: Liberals don’t speak as one big fat propagandistic voice on this subject in remotely the same way conservatives do when a Republican president is in power.

Before I get into all that, I want to review some numbers with you, because unless you’re a hyper-informed political junkie, I doubt you know them. How many net jobs has the economy created during Barack Obama’s presidency, and how many did it create during George W. Bush’s tenure? Notice first that I wrote “has the economy created” rather than “did Obama create/did Bush create.” I think it’s a better description of reality.

I also should note that I just measured the numbers under each president—I gave Bush the numbers from January 2001 to December 2008, and Obama the numbers from January 2009 to the present, with the following asterisk. January 2009 was when Obama became president, but he didn’t start until the 20th, of course. That was a particularly awful month, with 798,000 jobs lost. So I think it’s reasonable to give Bush, whose policies helped cause the meltdown anyway, two-thirds of that 798,000. (January 2001, by the way, was a tiny number, 30,000 jobs lost, but just to be consistent, I assigned only 10,000 of those to Bush.)

Imagine that a Republican president produced 45 straight months of job growth coming off the worst financial crisis since the Depression. Lord, we’d never hear the end of it.

Here are Bush’s numbers: It’s 8.657 million jobs gained, and 7.121 million jobs lost, for a net job-creation number of 1.536 million. Pathetic. It’s interesting to look back over the numbers from 2001. The economy stank. The month of 9/11, we lost 242,000 jobs. Want to ascribe that just to the attacks? In August, we’d lost 158,000. The decent Bush years were 2004, 2005, 2006, and part of 2007, but even then the numbers were hoppy and inconsistent: 307,000 jobs added in May 2004 and just 74,000 in June, for instance.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/07/why-you-don-t-know-obama-has-created-6-5-million-jobs.html

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Why You Don’t Know Obama Has Created 4.5 Million Jobs (& why Dems could lose in 2014-16) (Original Post) ErikJ Jul 2014 OP
Kick for exposure ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #1
I like to hope that liberal businesses are leading the way in hiring IronLionZion Jul 2014 #2
Me too ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #4
I've been saying it for years hfojvt Jul 2014 #3
The Dow numbers are not a good indicator of job growth Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #5
4.5 million jobs created. . B Calm Jul 2014 #10
Take this information to the voters in GOTV efforts. MineralMan Jul 2014 #6
Tweety spoke about this yesterday malaise Jul 2014 #7
Kick Hekate Jul 2014 #8
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #9
Bad news for republicans who been trying their best to give us a depression B Calm Jul 2014 #11

ismnotwasm

(41,975 posts)
1. Kick for exposure
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 02:09 PM
Jul 2014

This shouldn't drop. It's an interesting potential conversation, and an important point

IronLionZion

(45,410 posts)
2. I like to hope that liberal businesses are leading the way in hiring
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jul 2014

and they will hire up all the best people and offer the best wages and benefits, and the conservative businesses will be left trying to hire people by offering the usual low wages and crappy benefits to be "efficient".

It would be great to see a strong economy dominated by liberal employers who value their people.

As it is, blue states are mostly doing much better than red states.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
3. I've been saying it for years
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024400678

From my very small pulpit.

I like to credit the Democratic Party though, and not just one man. It is about the policies, not the person. Policies that Democrats in Congress voted for. And it is Democrats who are running for office in 2014 - not Obama.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
6. Take this information to the voters in GOTV efforts.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jul 2014

That's how we win. Give them the information they need to get them to the polls.

Not involved in GOTV? Why not?

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