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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 03:58 PM Jul 2014

British Airways BANS passengers from US flights if their mobiles are not charged

British Airways announced tough new security measures last night which will see passengers barred from US-bound flights if their electronic devices are not charged up.

In preventing passengers from flying, the airline is going one step further than the guidelines issued on Sunday.

These stated that gadgets will be confiscated before boarding if their owner fails to switch them on and prove they are not packed with explosives.

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But British Airways’ rules could see travellers with uncharged electronic devices – some of which are notorious for having short battery lives – not only lose their gadgets but also their seats on the flight.

And unwitting passengers whose batteries have run out during a stop-over, before taking a connecting flight to the US, face being stranded, unable to continue their journey.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2683951/Now-BA-bans-passengers-US-flights-mobile-isnt-charged-Airline-announces-tough-new-security-measures.html#ixzz36uPEiati

Airport security: you won't fly to the US if your mobile phone battery is dead.

Holidaymakers and business travellers who arrive at airport security with uncharged mobile phones or other electrical items will be stopped from boarding planes bound for the United States and effectively treated like “terrorists”.

British Airways said passengers who failed to turn on devices when asked will be immediately banned from their US flight and have to reschedule, even if they offer to abandon the item or send it on separately.

Britain’s main airline warned that even a new device bought in the airport lounge after passing through security will have to be charged up or the passenger will not be allowed to board at the gate. Any transfer passenger whose device has gone flat on the first leg will also be prevented from their onward travel unless they can recharge first.

It is the toughest stance taken since America ordered extra security checks on direct flights amid fears al-Qaeda has developed a new bomb that can evade current controls. It was announced on the ninth anniversary of the 7/7 terrorist bombings in London.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10952671/Airport-security-you-wont-fly-to-the-US-if-your-mobile-phone-battery-is-dead.html

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British Airways BANS passengers from US flights if their mobiles are not charged (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jul 2014 OP
I see the world continues to lose its fucking mind. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #1
what the fuck are the worried about? NightWatcher Jul 2014 #2
Security theatre enters another chapter... Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #3
What's to stop the bomb maker from rigging the device to light up? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #4
Why can't a functional phone also be a bomb? Throd Jul 2014 #28
Unless you have bought a new phone and don't want to purchase a SIM card until you malaise Jul 2014 #5
There seem to be no exceptions dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #7
someone who did not notice it was low or hadn't been around a place to charge it? uppityperson Jul 2014 #8
I can only see that happening on a very long flight malaise Jul 2014 #17
What if your flight was delayed or cancelled and you KoKo Jul 2014 #9
Expect to find dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #11
Good Pikin's in those leavin's...... KoKo Jul 2014 #24
Those are possibilities but I'm sure I can find a bathroom and charge it malaise Jul 2014 #18
So much money to be made off of "Enhanced Security Alerts." KoKo Jul 2014 #25
So bring an extra battery or instant charger for your phone. pnwmom Jul 2014 #6
That thought occured to me dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #10
How would it defeat it? Remove the dead battery and replace it with a new one. pnwmom Jul 2014 #12
So British Airways provides charging stations at the airport Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #29
My husband remembers having to do this decades ago pnwmom Jul 2014 #13
Jesus. Puglover Jul 2014 #14
Those who've been camping or visiting third-world countries mainer Jul 2014 #15
Not everyone has a cellphone. betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #16
You will be damned to airport hell! MoonRiver Jul 2014 #19
They wouldn't be affected jmowreader Jul 2014 #20
I think these get an exemption dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #22
They'll have to x-ray your carrier pigeon. Throd Jul 2014 #31
soon people will have to travel naked Jeneral2885 Jul 2014 #21
Subject now updated by UK's Dept. of Transport dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #23
Another Bump Up for the 1% who have either Private or Chartered Jets and the CEO's KoKo Jul 2014 #30
My phone takes a long time to start up. Turbineguy Jul 2014 #26
Must be "chatter" causing this elfin Jul 2014 #27
I remember having to show the TSA customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #32
List now extended to include a range of other electronic devices dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #33

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. what the fuck are the worried about?
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:06 PM
Jul 2014

Men, women, and children are butchered daily here by guns, but they wont even mention that. One asshole tries to light his shoes on fire and we all have to take our shoes off at the airport? (I forgot who said this but it's the truth)

If AQ really wants to down an airliner, why just use one of the stinger missiles that are floating around the black markets of the world with "Made in the USA" proudly stamped on the bottom? Or they could send a a bomb through cargo, because everyone knows that they don't screen all the overnight priority packages (too much time, cant be late)


What if my cell phone runs out of battery on the long ass flight from the UK because I forgot my charger and really want to beat (insert catchy game du jour here)?

Tetris_Iguana

(501 posts)
3. Security theatre enters another chapter...
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jul 2014

All of this is readily circumvented by a manpad which any halfwit organization can obtain.

If someone wanted to attack America, it would've happened already.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,319 posts)
4. What's to stop the bomb maker from rigging the device to light up?
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:20 PM
Jul 2014

I mean, I'm no phone/computer expert but it seems like that would be relatively easy to do.

Maybe TSA should make us take a selfie and twitter it to #thisisnotabomb

Throd

(7,208 posts)
28. Why can't a functional phone also be a bomb?
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 09:19 PM
Jul 2014

It wouldn't need to be powerful enough to blow up a plane, but maybe powerful enough to wound a critical function and make it crash.

I know nothing about microbombs, just thinkin' out loud.

malaise

(268,846 posts)
5. Unless you have bought a new phone and don't want to purchase a SIM card until you
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:23 PM
Jul 2014

are back home, who would not have their phone charged?

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. There seem to be no exceptions
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:33 PM
Jul 2014

Virgin Atlantic have also said they will rearrange flights where necessary and give complete refunds if flights have yet to commence.

Whatever - I can get to the majority of the planet with short ferries and a Jeep.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
8. someone who did not notice it was low or hadn't been around a place to charge it?
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:33 PM
Jul 2014

Or maybe they were talking to someone on the way to the airport and the phone went empty.

malaise

(268,846 posts)
17. I can only see that happening on a very long flight
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 05:13 PM
Jul 2014

I know I always charge my phone before heading for airports.
Maybe I'm obsessive but I don't want to land anywhere and not have a charged phone.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
9. What if your flight was delayed or cancelled and you
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jul 2014

used up your battery finding new flight and alerting those who were expecting you? Or, you had to do a lot of business on your phone while waiting at airport and the charging station was "down" (for whatever reason) or there were too many people trying to charge at same time?

What else could go wrong where this would be a real hardship?

Maybe purchasing a throw away phone to use in emergency in addition to your charged up regular phone would be the solution.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
11. Expect to find
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:58 PM
Jul 2014

some Galaxys and iPhones in wastebins along with bottles of water near security checkins.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
24. Good Pikin's in those leavin's......
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jul 2014

I always wondered about the Resale Value of our confiscated items since "9/11." My partner brought back a jar of Preserves from Germany as a treat gift from a business friend...and it was an exclusive berry of some kind from a region in Germany famous for gourmet jams/jellies...but it was said to possibly contain "explosives in the jel." The TSA took it.

Imagine all the items that are sold as "Government Surplus" confiscated or on a black market or E-Bay by the clever. Big windfall there for someone.

malaise

(268,846 posts)
18. Those are possibilities but I'm sure I can find a bathroom and charge it
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 05:17 PM
Jul 2014

I must pick up a cheap phone for emergencies with my points.

My bet is that some smart folks will open a charge up shops in airports.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
25. So much money to be made off of "Enhanced Security Alerts."
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 09:11 PM
Jul 2014

Good Business Opportunities there... Unless we know who gets the lucrative contracts for the "Emergency Charge Stations"...it would sound very good... Suspect it is not for an enterprising, ordinary unemployed tech/telecom worker without big money backing, though. But, who knows?

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
6. So bring an extra battery or instant charger for your phone.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:31 PM
Jul 2014

And make sure your computer battery isn't dying before you leave.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
10. That thought occured to me
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:51 PM
Jul 2014

but I not sure they'll allow loose batteries - would defeat the object of confirming an apparent flat battery in a phone wasn't semtex.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
12. How would it defeat it? Remove the dead battery and replace it with a new one.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jul 2014

If it works, it works.

But if I were flying, I'd do this before I went through security. Why ask for the extra hassle?

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
13. My husband remembers having to do this decades ago
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 05:01 PM
Jul 2014

before the technology evolved to where they thought it was safe to let people on with these devices without checking the power.

Apparently we're back to where we started.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
14. Jesus.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 05:05 PM
Jul 2014

Have the TSA's IQ's suddenly dropped sharply? How they could go any lower I don't know.

If they feel this moronic law is necessary then just make sure there is an outlet available so they can plug the damned phones in to power them up. They take time to do everything else so why not this? Who doesn't carry a charging cable. People seem to be incapable of breathing with out their cell phones so I can't imagine not having a charger handy.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
15. Those who've been camping or visiting third-world countries
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 05:08 PM
Jul 2014

might not be able to charge all their devices before getting to the airport.

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
20. They wouldn't be affected
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 05:22 PM
Jul 2014

It seems that one of the guys we've had sequestered in Gitmo has suddenly, after ten years, slid over to a security guard and told him it's real easy to make a bomb that looks like a cell phone out of Semtex. (Strangely enough, cell phones the color of a brick are not very popular.)

If you don't have a "mobile," you just walk straight through.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
23. Subject now updated by UK's Dept. of Transport
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 06:22 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:00 PM - Edit history (1)

Uncharged mobile ban goes global: Now phones and laptops will not be allowed on flights to destinations around world unless fully charged

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2684723/Now-terror-checks-phones-laptops-spread-flights-Middle-East-Africa-BA-u-turns-says-WILL-able-fly-phones-not-charged.html#ixzz36v9BZLeZ



KoKo

(84,711 posts)
30. Another Bump Up for the 1% who have either Private or Chartered Jets and the CEO's
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 09:21 PM
Jul 2014

and Government Officials who also can use "Private Airway Resources" to travel these days that are on the Corporations Dime and not under the Taxpayers Control. They can take their uncharged cell phones and lap tops and not go through the Security and be on their way.

Great times we live in isn't it? And what about the small business folk who travel? Sort of puts them at a disadvantage Commerce Wise to increase their business ties with foreign countries to do business and hire folks for jobs when they are at a disadvantage like this.

Wonder how this is going to play out....? Will there be huge push back?

Turbineguy

(37,312 posts)
26. My phone takes a long time to start up.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 09:13 PM
Jul 2014

It's the new and improved version. That will slow down the line some.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
32. I remember having to show the TSA
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jul 2014

that my phone was indeed functional some number of years ago. I'm a bit surprised they dropped the requirement.

How hard is it to keep at least a minimal charge on a working phone these days? There are outlets at most major airports, and frankly, if you have enough money to buy an international ticket, then you have enough money to buy a spare battery which can be kept charged, and placed into the phone while on the plane before landing.

I'm no fan of the TSA or security theatre, but when it comes to all the indignities they put people through, this is not a major one.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
33. List now extended to include a range of other electronic devices
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 04:22 AM
Jul 2014

such as electrical shavers, travel irons, hairdryers, hair-straighteners and cameras or any other camera equipment.

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British Airways said that customers flying to the United States faced being made to rebook if they were found in possession of an uncharged device.

Alternatively, the airline also said that customers would be able to leave the device behind at an airport if it was unable to charge. They would then be asked to either collect it on their return, or have it forwarded to another address.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28223150

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