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British Airways announced tough new security measures last night which will see passengers barred from US-bound flights if their electronic devices are not charged up.
In preventing passengers from flying, the airline is going one step further than the guidelines issued on Sunday.
These stated that gadgets will be confiscated before boarding if their owner fails to switch them on and prove they are not packed with explosives.
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But British Airways rules could see travellers with uncharged electronic devices some of which are notorious for having short battery lives not only lose their gadgets but also their seats on the flight.
And unwitting passengers whose batteries have run out during a stop-over, before taking a connecting flight to the US, face being stranded, unable to continue their journey.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2683951/Now-BA-bans-passengers-US-flights-mobile-isnt-charged-Airline-announces-tough-new-security-measures.html#ixzz36uPEiati
Airport security: you won't fly to the US if your mobile phone battery is dead.
Holidaymakers and business travellers who arrive at airport security with uncharged mobile phones or other electrical items will be stopped from boarding planes bound for the United States and effectively treated like terrorists.
British Airways said passengers who failed to turn on devices when asked will be immediately banned from their US flight and have to reschedule, even if they offer to abandon the item or send it on separately.
Britains main airline warned that even a new device bought in the airport lounge after passing through security will have to be charged up or the passenger will not be allowed to board at the gate. Any transfer passenger whose device has gone flat on the first leg will also be prevented from their onward travel unless they can recharge first.
It is the toughest stance taken since America ordered extra security checks on direct flights amid fears al-Qaeda has developed a new bomb that can evade current controls. It was announced on the ninth anniversary of the 7/7 terrorist bombings in London.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10952671/Airport-security-you-wont-fly-to-the-US-if-your-mobile-phone-battery-is-dead.html
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Paranoia and fear .
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Men, women, and children are butchered daily here by guns, but they wont even mention that. One asshole tries to light his shoes on fire and we all have to take our shoes off at the airport? (I forgot who said this but it's the truth)
If AQ really wants to down an airliner, why just use one of the stinger missiles that are floating around the black markets of the world with "Made in the USA" proudly stamped on the bottom? Or they could send a a bomb through cargo, because everyone knows that they don't screen all the overnight priority packages (too much time, cant be late)
What if my cell phone runs out of battery on the long ass flight from the UK because I forgot my charger and really want to beat (insert catchy game du jour here)?
Tetris_Iguana
(501 posts)All of this is readily circumvented by a manpad which any halfwit organization can obtain.
If someone wanted to attack America, it would've happened already.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,319 posts)I mean, I'm no phone/computer expert but it seems like that would be relatively easy to do.
Maybe TSA should make us take a selfie and twitter it to #thisisnotabomb
Throd
(7,208 posts)It wouldn't need to be powerful enough to blow up a plane, but maybe powerful enough to wound a critical function and make it crash.
I know nothing about microbombs, just thinkin' out loud.
malaise
(268,846 posts)are back home, who would not have their phone charged?
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Virgin Atlantic have also said they will rearrange flights where necessary and give complete refunds if flights have yet to commence.
Whatever - I can get to the majority of the planet with short ferries and a Jeep.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Or maybe they were talking to someone on the way to the airport and the phone went empty.
malaise
(268,846 posts)I know I always charge my phone before heading for airports.
Maybe I'm obsessive but I don't want to land anywhere and not have a charged phone.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)used up your battery finding new flight and alerting those who were expecting you? Or, you had to do a lot of business on your phone while waiting at airport and the charging station was "down" (for whatever reason) or there were too many people trying to charge at same time?
What else could go wrong where this would be a real hardship?
Maybe purchasing a throw away phone to use in emergency in addition to your charged up regular phone would be the solution.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)some Galaxys and iPhones in wastebins along with bottles of water near security checkins.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)I always wondered about the Resale Value of our confiscated items since "9/11." My partner brought back a jar of Preserves from Germany as a treat gift from a business friend...and it was an exclusive berry of some kind from a region in Germany famous for gourmet jams/jellies...but it was said to possibly contain "explosives in the jel." The TSA took it.
Imagine all the items that are sold as "Government Surplus" confiscated or on a black market or E-Bay by the clever. Big windfall there for someone.
malaise
(268,846 posts)I must pick up a cheap phone for emergencies with my points.
My bet is that some smart folks will open a charge up shops in airports.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Good Business Opportunities there... Unless we know who gets the lucrative contracts for the "Emergency Charge Stations"...it would sound very good... Suspect it is not for an enterprising, ordinary unemployed tech/telecom worker without big money backing, though. But, who knows?
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)And make sure your computer battery isn't dying before you leave.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)but I not sure they'll allow loose batteries - would defeat the object of confirming an apparent flat battery in a phone wasn't semtex.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)If it works, it works.
But if I were flying, I'd do this before I went through security. Why ask for the extra hassle?
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)which makes sense with this policy.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)before the technology evolved to where they thought it was safe to let people on with these devices without checking the power.
Apparently we're back to where we started.
Puglover
(16,380 posts)Have the TSA's IQ's suddenly dropped sharply? How they could go any lower I don't know.
If they feel this moronic law is necessary then just make sure there is an outlet available so they can plug the damned phones in to power them up. They take time to do everything else so why not this? Who doesn't carry a charging cable. People seem to be incapable of breathing with out their cell phones so I can't imagine not having a charger handy.
mainer
(12,022 posts)might not be able to charge all their devices before getting to the airport.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)What about them?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)And it really IS hell.
jmowreader
(50,546 posts)It seems that one of the guys we've had sequestered in Gitmo has suddenly, after ten years, slid over to a security guard and told him it's real easy to make a bomb that looks like a cell phone out of Semtex. (Strangely enough, cell phones the color of a brick are not very popular.)
If you don't have a "mobile," you just walk straight through.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)and eat liquid food on an airline.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:00 PM - Edit history (1)
Uncharged mobile ban goes global: Now phones and laptops will not be allowed on flights to destinations around world unless fully charged
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2684723/Now-terror-checks-phones-laptops-spread-flights-Middle-East-Africa-BA-u-turns-says-WILL-able-fly-phones-not-charged.html#ixzz36v9BZLeZ
KoKo
(84,711 posts)and Government Officials who also can use "Private Airway Resources" to travel these days that are on the Corporations Dime and not under the Taxpayers Control. They can take their uncharged cell phones and lap tops and not go through the Security and be on their way.
Great times we live in isn't it? And what about the small business folk who travel? Sort of puts them at a disadvantage Commerce Wise to increase their business ties with foreign countries to do business and hire folks for jobs when they are at a disadvantage like this.
Wonder how this is going to play out....? Will there be huge push back?
Turbineguy
(37,312 posts)It's the new and improved version. That will slow down the line some.
elfin
(6,262 posts)If not, then dumb.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)that my phone was indeed functional some number of years ago. I'm a bit surprised they dropped the requirement.
How hard is it to keep at least a minimal charge on a working phone these days? There are outlets at most major airports, and frankly, if you have enough money to buy an international ticket, then you have enough money to buy a spare battery which can be kept charged, and placed into the phone while on the plane before landing.
I'm no fan of the TSA or security theatre, but when it comes to all the indignities they put people through, this is not a major one.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)such as electrical shavers, travel irons, hairdryers, hair-straighteners and cameras or any other camera equipment.
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British Airways said that customers flying to the United States faced being made to rebook if they were found in possession of an uncharged device.
Alternatively, the airline also said that customers would be able to leave the device behind at an airport if it was unable to charge. They would then be asked to either collect it on their return, or have it forwarded to another address.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28223150