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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 06:08 PM Jul 2014

Boy with toy gun said to be high when shot by cop

Andy Lopez, the 13-year-old boy who was fatally shot outside Santa Rosa last year by a county sheriff's deputy who mistook his replica AK-47 pellet rifle for a real gun, appears to have been high on marijuana at the time, according to a new report on the shooting.

The Sonoma County District Attorney's Office released the results of its investigation into Andy's death on Monday, while saying they would not file criminal charges against Deputy Erick Gelhaus.

The investigative report revealed several new details about the Oct. 22 incident, including the finding that marijuana's active ingredient was present in Andy's blood.

The marijuana, the report suggests, may have affected Andy's judgment when he was approached from behind on the street by Gelhaus and a colleague.

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Boy-with-toy-gun-said-to-be-high-when-shot-by-cop-5607005.php

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Boy with toy gun said to be high when shot by cop (Original Post) XemaSab Jul 2014 OP
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #1
. tk2kewl Jul 2014 #2
Did you hear Sonoma County District Attorney Jill Ravitch's statements? bluesbassman Jul 2014 #3
She also said that Gellhaus (the cop) used restraint DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2014 #5
Yes, her's was a veritable smorgasbord of rationalization and deflection. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #7
Death penalty for Cannibis use? nt longship Jul 2014 #4
So, that makes killing a child alright. In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #6
I'm going to suggest that if the cop wasn't on scene long enough to Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #12
Ya got that right. In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #13
After all the discussions, I still believe it's only a small minority of cops that are rotten tularetom Jul 2014 #8
The protection of the bad cops breeds more. and people die as a result. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #9
I could tell you stories tularetom Jul 2014 #10
They run the good ones out by design. it's a shame. PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #11

Response to XemaSab (Original post)

bluesbassman

(19,361 posts)
3. Did you hear Sonoma County District Attorney Jill Ravitch's statements?
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 06:15 PM
Jul 2014

In regard to the protests being held, she advised that this should be an opportunity for the community to better interact with LEOs. I just about threw up my lunch when I heard her speak. Unfucking believable.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
5. She also said that Gellhaus (the cop) used restraint
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jul 2014

Her reasoning? His gun holds 18 rounds, but he "only" shot Lopez 7 times in 2 seconds, thereby showing restraint.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
12. I'm going to suggest that if the cop wasn't on scene long enough to
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:10 PM
Jul 2014

discern a real gun from a toy gun, a real threat from a non-threat, he sure as hell wasn't on scene long enough to discern a state of intoxication.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
8. After all the discussions, I still believe it's only a small minority of cops that are rotten
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 06:29 PM
Jul 2014

The problem is that nothing is done to or about that small minority and as a result, the conception that all cops are brutal and corrupt just gains credibility.

Law enforcement, like almost all professions, needs to do a better job of weeding out the bullies, crooks, misfits and douchebags in their midst, or their image is going to go the way of other groups that have failed to do so, like lawyers.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
9. The protection of the bad cops breeds more. and people die as a result.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 06:36 PM
Jul 2014

There's local news story here about a former cop who was fired when a naked handcuffed prostitute was found screaming for help running from his home stating she'd been kidnapped and held against her will by him. They let him quit. No charges. Fast forward about a decade and he's been charged with murdering 2 women, stuffing them into suitcases and dropping them on a country road.

He's been working as a security guard all these years, pushing background checks with ease. A good friend works where he was guarding for past several years and interacted with him daily.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
10. I could tell you stories
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:01 PM
Jul 2014

My son was with the PD for about five years. He left because he didn't want to be associated with some of the crap he saw going on and he didn't want to be a witness to some tragedy and feel pressured to be part of the coverup.

According to him, the internal pressure to close ranks is too much for most people to stand up to. And it came right from the top, not in a way that you could ever put your finger on, but you knew just where it was coming from.

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