Strip Search Him!

[kpete]

[fascisthunter]

1. Hope and Change!

[madokie]

2. Whats that supposed to mean

[fascisthunter]

3. gee... I don't know.... who signs bills into legislation

can't you feel it?! Sounds like the Obama admin likes this decision.

[FarLeftFist]

6. What bill?

[fascisthunter]

9. who signs bills.... who was interested in seeing a quick decision by the Supreme Court

this decision by the Supreme Court in particular? When somebody who has the power to sign bills into legislation support a decision like this, what does that mean for the US?

[woo me with science]

8. Obama DOJ urged the Supreme Court's endorsement of strip searches.

This was a victory for the Obama administration.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002521527

[madokie]

27. I don't put much faith in a salon article

maybe thats just me but

[woo me with science]

31. I don't have much faith in that "fish have gills" thing, either.

Sigh.

The Obama administration attorney participated in oral arguments. The amicus brief was posted in the original thread linked here. There is no denying which side the administration took.

This thread is becoming an excellent example of the behavior that is allowing this bipartisan assault on our rights to be so successful. As long as there is such reflexive investment in ignoring, minimizing, justifying, or outright denying indefensible positions when someone points out that they are also coming from our party, we will never have a unified opposition to this creeping oppression.

[FarLeftFist]

4. Blame conservatives.

[fascisthunter]

5. I do... in our own party

[FarLeftFist]

7. Try the Supreme Court.

[fascisthunter]

10. ooops... the admin has been caught supporting the decision

oh noooooo

[FarLeftFist]

12. Don't believe everything you read from the DC rumor mill.

[fascisthunter]

15. I'm a far leftist, and I tend to read a lot, and I recommend many others here do the same

before it is too late.

[FarLeftFist]

16. Cool. Show me the oral argument transcripts.

[woo me with science]

11. The assault is bipartisan.

The Obama administration sent attorneys for the DOJ for oral arguments urging this outcome. On this and so many other issues, the assault on our rights is clearly bipartisan.

You cannot fix a problem if you refuse to acknowledge it.

[FarLeftFist]

13. Show me the oral argument transcripts.

[woo me with science]

17. The written briefs are linked in the thread I linked above,

and the oral arguments have been public all week. I believe there are also references to MSM news coverage in the other thread.

You are spending a great deal of time trying to deny what happened this week, even though the record is accessible to the entire nation. How embarrassing for you, but how illustrative of the level of denial we are dealing with.

[FarLeftFist]

20. How embarrassing that you link to a Greenwald article.

How illustrative of the level of delusion WE are dealing with. Sorry but I work 55hrs a week and have a wife and 2 kids, didn't know this was about making people 'embarrassed'. Btw, what the Administration wanted was a blanket policy, which wasn't reached by the courts who decided they couldn't find a reasonable line, which isn't exactly a 'blanket policy', therefore they left it up to the jail administrators.

[woo me with science]

23. How embarrassing that you cannot follow a link to a link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002521527#post11

And now you realize that you cannot deny that the administration argued in favor of this, so you attempt to rationalize their argument. That's the typical route: first deny the authoritarian policy, and then when it cannot be denied anymore, justify it.

I will leave you now and let your post speak for itself...that old, familiar song.

[FarLeftFist]

25. Yikes! You seem delusional with a touch of narcissistic personality disorder. How "progressive".

[woo me with science]

28. Oh, you're right. I forgot a step.

1. Deny the authoritarian/right-wing/corporate policy.

2. Justify the authoritarian/right-wing/corporate policy.

3. Nasty personal attack.


Thank you. I would have hated for that summary to have been incomplete.

Welcome to the new DU!

[fascisthunter]

14. thank you! (nt)

[woo me with science]

18. i debated whether to answer at all.

Given that the administration's support for this is readily apparent both in the media and in the links right in the post I linked, that one was obviously rhetorical rather than genuine...along the lines of, "No, the earth doesn't revolve around the sun. Prove it!"

[fascisthunter]

19. I know... I rarely even bother anymore

this country is fucked!

[FarLeftFist]

21. You guys should try 'rarely bothering' a little more.

[limpyhobbler]

22. True, the assault is bipartisan but to be fair there is a real difference when it comes to

appointing judges. All the Obama and Clinton appointees voted against this travesty. It's quite correct to criticize the President and the DOJ for this, but I'm just trying to balance the picture out a little bit.

[woo me with science]

24. Nobody here is arguing

that Romney would pick a BETTER SC justice than Obama. The point is that we have a serious problem in our party, and just voting Democratic is not enough anymore. We have to acknowledge that we are getting this authoritarian crap from both sides, and we have to stand up as a nation and start pressuring for that to change rather than denying, rationalizing, justifying, and ignoring indefensible behavior when it comes from our own party.

[FarLeftFist]

26. Some of us are ACTUALLY doing that instead of just sitting here talking about it.

[woo me with science]

29. Some of us, yes. nt

[limpyhobbler]

36. Quite right.

It isn't going to be too easy though. People do need to get more active. Including me.

[just1voice]

30. "lift genitals, turn around and cough"

That was just a few of the things the SCOTUS said was OK for "prison officials" to do to any 1 of the 13 million people arrested every year, regardless of the charges.

[woo me with science]

32. Thank you.

It's worth being very clear about what our government is doing.

How many people were trapped on that bridge and arrested during the Occupy protests?

We are getting very close to Egyptian virginity checks when it comes to giving the population reasons to fear making their voices heard.

[2banon]

34. firmly agree.. It would bring me great pleasure to see Scalia, Roberts et al subjected to these

fascists procedures, codified with their fascists decisions.

[burrowowl]

33. The SC is out of control

and by the way WHEN IS HABEAS CORPUS coming back!

[woo me with science]

35. Oh, they'll fix that later.