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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWatching the World Cup Final completely stress free
Truthfully Germany looks good but I want Argentina to win because this WC is in South America.
I am also looking forward to the seating arrangements of the politicians - CFK, Merkel, Putin and whoever else shows up.
Here's an interesting first - both countries in the final have female leaders.
mcar
(42,306 posts)It's been a terrific tourney.
malaise
(268,949 posts)2002 - Korea/Japan
2006 Germany
2010 South Africa
2014 Brazil
we shall we
malaise
(268,949 posts)mcar
(42,306 posts)Thanks for all your great threads.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)It's a big task to beat Germany. Italy showed how it's done during Euros: stay defensively solid and take your chances. They can be beaten.
Argentina 1 Germany 0
malaise
(268,949 posts)offside.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Argentina have looked the better team so far?
They could easily be up 2 with the chances they've had
malaise
(268,949 posts)Both teams are using the offside trap well.
Good first half.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)I like that they've gone from the stolid, boring defensive first style to their more active offense style and don't want them to change back.
That said, I'm fine with Argentina winning for the reasons you named.
malaise
(268,949 posts)And they have two yellow cards. Argentina has been more accurate on goal so far.
https://www.google.com.jm/?gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=LuPCU9_zMKjmsAT55oLoBQ#q=germany+vs+argentina&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDQy-H0CPGdkZugScXeyWl6oREuNgck0sy8_OEuLg4wvOLclKcSwuExLk4gwvyi0r8EnNTQRL6ufoGRmUVJkKqXGw-qYnppalC0kKSXNxuRampSYnFqb6ZKTBlxgaF5kJqXKy-iSXJGUKyQtKoqni4uECq4ovijUuSeXbMY3DpLb2ykeN_Q3GWzTF_c-FeYwD2mvTeqgAAAA
suffragette
(12,232 posts)malaise
(268,949 posts)about now or it's PKS
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)I like Germany - especially when they could have taken Brazil 14-1. They totally backed off in the second half. Showed a lot of class to the host country not to go for the throat when the handwriting was on the wall that they were going to advance.
BUT!
Its hard not to root for Argentina.
I guess my best hope is for a close/exciting second half.
mcar
(42,306 posts)I liked how Germany backed off too. Argentina's defense is impressive.
Pretty evenly matched thus far.
malaise
(268,949 posts)Those two yellow cards are a problem and remember they already brought on one sub.
Germany had more possession but Argentina used the ball better. Should be up one goal at least by now
Let today not be the day when a European team wins in South America.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)and then got pissed because they took a shot at him.
Definitely leaning Argentina at this point.
IcyPeas
(21,859 posts)what if the score ends up 0-0? is it just the cumulative winner that wins? All of a sudden I am into this game.
malaise
(268,949 posts)there is extra time of 30 minutes - fifteen minutes each way. If scores are tied after that 0-0 or even 2-2, it's down to penalty kicks. That happened in 1994 when Brazil beat Italy in the USA
IcyPeas
(21,859 posts)malaise
(268,949 posts)Come on Argentina - that's two goals you should have scored
malaise
(268,949 posts)for the third time in a row. Eighth game in this world cup with extra time.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)There might be some stress on the many Germans in Argentina.
malaise
(268,949 posts)That's why it's stress free.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)You can just sit back and enjoy -- no vested interest at all.
It's been a good game so far.
malaise
(268,949 posts)although I'd like the South American record to remain intact.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)What do you think?
malaise
(268,949 posts)There should be five refs - two running the lines on either side and the on field one.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)There also seem to be alot of fouls!
malaise
(268,949 posts)Football is a contact sport
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Those guys are true athletes though.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)...yesterday that it wasn't that Germany were that good, but that Brazil were that bad.
Germany should win, of course, but who knows?
malaise
(268,949 posts)They aren't that good. The Brazilian defense was always going to be a problem and losing Neymar didn't help. Argentina should have at least three goals by now.
The Germans foul a lot.
Come on Messi - damn!!!
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)malaise
(268,949 posts)Four goals in the first three matches and not one since.
That said he scored none in 2010 in South Africa so this is a massive improvement.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)Baffled at why you'd think I'm from Dixie, if that's what you're asking.
I'd state my background but it's so unusual it would make me uniquely googleable, I fear.
2banon
(7,321 posts)I live in California (for the past 40+ years) but I was born and raised in the South.. and yes, I meant south of the "Mason-Dixon" line.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I did live in Texas for 8 years. It might have contributed to my speech patterns, which is rather a forensic challenge to any linguist!
2banon
(7,321 posts)that is soooo southern... wondered if you were doing tongue in cheek but I couldn't figure out the context... which prompted the question..
malaise
(268,949 posts)malaise
(268,949 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Maybe they need to go back to their stoic defensive mode. This isn't a good look for them.
malaise
(268,949 posts)Go South America
malaise
(268,949 posts)a great footballer
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Hope he lands a coaching gig.
malaise
(268,949 posts)Same here
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Much prefer the more open play under this coach.
I think these teams are just well matched.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)went into overtime?
Germany has stepped up their game, but this is OT now. Second wind?
These guys must be exhausted!
malaise
(268,949 posts)Damn!!
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)That was precision.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Off the bench and one for the replays!
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)just minutes before on his (Klose') last World Cup?
Thats a story for the grandkid's grandkids.
Congrats Mario Gotze and Germany!
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Brave move from the coach and very symbolic given the outcome.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)I think that goal woke everyone up though
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)#TRUFAX
malaise
(268,949 posts)I have long maintained that he is no Diego Maradona but if he scores here no one will care
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I hadn't noticed.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Drew at least 1 German yellow card. May have been both. Malaise?
malaise
(268,949 posts)I'll have to check the other
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)Please read the rest at Five Thirty-Eight:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lionel-messi-is-impossible/
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)yawning....
Don't pay attention to me. I'm skyping people in Germany who are at the edge of their seats.
malaise
(268,949 posts)Damn this is trouble
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)This might be an exciting game but certainly not a good game, my father would have sniffed.
He's long ago joined the sausage, beer, and polka fest in the sky, so we don't have to hear rubbish like that any more.
malaise
(268,949 posts)There's a great football saying - an ugly win is better than a pretty loss.
Great sub move by the coach.
two minutes added time - congrats Germany...unless.
Oops foul on Messi.
Bosonic
(3,746 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Ok, Argentina - you have 17'
Edit - ack! Off by 10 minutes. Come on Argentina!
malaise
(268,949 posts)Mario Götze
Come on Argentina
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)No complaints, they fucked themselves over missing so many golden chances
malaise
(268,949 posts)They blew way too many chances
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)malaise
(268,949 posts)and bring him on. It was a lovely goal
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Congrats Germany!!
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suffragette
(12,232 posts)malaise
(268,949 posts)Messi the ball and Neuer the glove
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)That was a tad high...
malaise
(268,949 posts)Congrats Messi
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)At least he had the class to look ashamed about it.
James Rodriguez for me.
malaise
(268,949 posts)Messi win the Golden Ball and Neuer won the Golden Glove.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)This is a joke from Dutch television based on the fact that "The Golden Pick (or selection)" could also be a play on words meaning The Golden Penis in Dutch.
I think they actually presented him with a trophy of a Gold Willy. Dutch people (who doesn't love them) are pretty strange.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)That hurts
malaise
(268,949 posts)first European team to win in South America.
Congrats Germany - well played.
Next Russia 2018
This is the part I love - when the kids and wives join the squad.
Crying is a big part of losing - you'd better cry for those fans
suffragette
(12,232 posts)And James should win a well-earned Golden Boot. I'd love to see his newest celebration dance
malaise
(268,949 posts)and did not get it done.
Yep I love the celebrations - did you see that they dressed up Christ of the Redeemer in German colors?
suffragette
(12,232 posts)I haven't seen that got a pic?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Have a link?
malaise
(268,949 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Brazil did a great job hosting this year. Hats off!
malaise
(268,949 posts)Ha
Great world cup - loved it.
Congrats Brazil - now to pay the bills
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Serious cash, there.
That came up at work the other day - one coworker was talking about all of the stadiums that were built and another remarked that the infrastructure for the WC is what likely landed them the Olympics. I may have heard wrong though?
malaise
(268,949 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)Not the way he wanted to win it, for sure.
malaise
(268,949 posts)LOL
suffragette
(12,232 posts)But just for a moment
muriel_volestrangler
(101,310 posts)malaise
(268,949 posts)ESPN????
muriel_volestrangler
(101,310 posts)I think it was Mark Lawrenson, but I'm not sure.
mcar
(42,306 posts)An amazing goal. And very classy to applaud the Argentines as they went to get their medals.
I'm ready for the next Cup!
malaise
(268,949 posts)They had several chances.
Russia here we come
mcar
(42,306 posts)But there's lots of soccer to watch in the meantime.
tavernier
(12,382 posts)Congratulations to the winners!
And three cheers for the excellent sportsmanship shown by USA when we lost. I realize Argentina came closer, but for Pete's sake, what miserable faces. #10 looked like he wanted to spit on his trophy.
malaise
(268,949 posts)If one camera catches one of the squad members smiling, the tabloids will devour him for a week
Crying is part of the culture. Better to bawl than face the wrath of the media.
If a single one of the Argentinian players is seen at a party tonight, the Argentinian media will eat him alive.
tavernier
(12,382 posts)Thousands... millions of kids... would give their eye teeth to be so honored. (Not to mention adults).
That "football culture" is just a convenient way to dismiss very poor manners.
malaise
(268,949 posts)congratulated the winners and commiserated with the Argentinian players. Didn't you see the two coaches together? These players are friends -they play for the same club teams in a variety of leagues.
The culture is simple - do not look like you're OK losing.
2banon
(7,321 posts)as "newbie" to the sport, it's been an education.. thanks to your threads on the subject!
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)malaise
(268,949 posts)malaise
(268,949 posts)who joined the threads - it was fun.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)Thanks, Malaise! Hope to see more of you in the Football (soccer) group!
The European pre-seasons are almost upon us already. Sanchez signed for Arsenal and that makes me a very happy Gooner.
BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 14, 2014, 06:10 AM - Edit history (1)
Fitting.
Messi will be back; unfinished business for him. Game was there for him in the second half and he missed a shot he normally buries. I think Neuer was in their heads all day; they had plenty of chances and they never fired away. And then they ran out of gas.
The best team won in an honorable fashion; doesn't always happen.