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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 12:53 PM Jul 2014

The MLB All-Star Game should not determine home-field in the World Series.

When you have stuff going on like Jeter being thrown easy pitches on purpose because he is retiring, and the Little League type mentality of everyone getting to play (and pitchers only going 1 inning each) the game should not determine something as important as whose ballpark a World Series Game 7 will be played in. They should just do the logical thing and give the home field advantage to the team with the better record.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/harper-adam-wainwright-grooved-pitch-derek-jeter-admission-mistake-article-1.1868490

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dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
1. there was a need to inject some relevance into this rather useless concept
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 12:58 PM
Jul 2014

least they become as useless and stupid at the nfl and nba allstar gaime

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
4. The MLB all-star game is still useless and stupid,
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jul 2014

but its useless and stupidity now perversely has actual real-world implications. Hopefully the Cardinals will lose Game 7 of the World Series on the road this year, so that this point is really driven home.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. No more and no less than the other 162 games played by each franchise throughout the season.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jul 2014

" The MLB all-star game is still useless and stupid..."

No more and no less than the other 162 games played by each franchise throughout the season.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
11. The MLB all star game is far and away the best all star game in pro sports.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jul 2014

Even before the home field tie-in, you'd see scores that pretty much mimic regular season scores. Meaning players were giving it their all both offensively and defensively.

As opposed to the other sports, whose all star games are offensive explosions with very little defense.

That and you get weird, random formats for the games--like having team captains pick teams school playground style.

Give me the MLB all star game any day over that mess.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
3. Hell yes! I'm going to boycott MLB, and will never attend another game!
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:01 PM
Jul 2014

Yeah, that'll show 'em.

Thank you for calling my attention to this crucial issue. Now that I am aware, my entire thinking about professional sports has changed. I must have accidentally clicked on the Sports Group, though, so I'm going back to GD now.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
6. Actually, I just skip over all of those, along with
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:15 PM
Jul 2014

other personal-type posts. They've been allowed in GD for a long time. Sports, on the other hand, is specifically mentioned in the GD SOP as a topic that is not for GD. Now, the All-Star Game is more or less big news, so posts about the game are OK, pretty much, and there have been some.

However, a post about the future rules of All Star Game results seems to be off-topic for the news about the game, and moves into opinion about a sports topic.

I didn't alert on the post on SOP grounds, though. Instead, I commented in the thread.

I like cats. I have a couple of them. I just don't read posts in GD about them, nor do I alert on them.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
13. Ah, I see you found a post of mine from January about
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:50 PM
Jul 2014

the dog we adopted though the Beagle Freedom Project. It had a bunch of people Reccing it and was posted to get some publicity for that organization. I still skip over the cat posts, like I said.

Good search work, though, I have to say! And thanks for bringing attention to that thread. Rescuing animals that are being experimented on in labs is a worthwhile cause, so maybe some other folks will learn about the Beagle Freedom Project. Cool.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
7. This all started after the dreaded tie
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jul 2014

the one that was called in extra innings because the teams had run out of pitchers.

The home-field thing was a desperate attempt to make the game relevant.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. It didn't work,
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:44 PM
Jul 2014

because a manager treating this as a serious game would not have his pitchers go one inning each, he would save them in case the game went to extra innings. Let those who want to enjoy this useless game (though I will not be joining them), just don't let it affect anything in the real world.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
8. So which National League team are you a fan of?
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jul 2014

The NL sure hasn't done well in the All-Star Game lately, have they?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
9. The Mets.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jul 2014

Which I have a sneaking suspicion will not be impacted by the AL's home field advantage this year.

meow2u3

(24,759 posts)
14. That makes two of us
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:22 PM
Jul 2014

Let's Go Mets!

And by the way, MLB ought to go back to determining home field advantage in the World Series the old-fashioned way: by alternating years.

bpj62

(999 posts)
17. Last Five World Series Winners
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jul 2014

All had home field advantage because of the All Star game so it does play a role.

2013 Boston
2012 San Francisco
2011 St. Louis
2010 San Francisco
2009 New York Yankees.


Selig made the change because the tie game occurred in Milwaukee and he was embarrassed. Couldn't have happened to a bigger jerk. He expressed regret for the work stoppage in 1994 but never bothered to mention that he led the other owners in locking the players out and that is why the owners made him the commissioner of baseball. He let the steroid era occur because baseball needed fannies in the seats after the strike and then he feigned shock when it was discovered that all the power hitters were juicing. Good riddance to him.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
15. Here's my thought - best record in baseball should get homefield advantage
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jul 2014

If you think about it - playoff games leading up to the world series are all based on the best record in baseball between the 2 teams competing. So why not reward the best record in baseball to make the World Series the home field advantage.

We could even create layers to that should there happen to be a tie record between the 2 teams for best record. Second way to decide could be based on which team had the best record vs. the opposing league (NL represented vs. all the games they played against the AL and vice versa) and work down the line.

I think that would give way more incentive to home field advantage.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
16. I've always thought that tied records should be broken by run differential,
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jul 2014

which is how the English Premier League (for example) works. That is, if two teams have the same record, the run differential (total runs scored minus total runs allowed, over the course of the regular season) will be the tiebreaker for postseason contention. What this would do is to make every regular season game, even the laughers with lopsided scores, have some meaning. Giving up on a game which his team is losing and conceding lots more runs to the opposite team would actually have real implications for a manager. And conversely, even when a team is very likely to win a game it would still have every incentive to score some extra runs to beef up their run differential.

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