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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEven Elizabeth Warren Supports Israel.....
Directly from her website :
Meaning she will support israel military aid ?
Let's Face it...There is not a single big leader in Democratic party who will have guts to tell Israel to stop.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Joel thakkar
(363 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)I will not vote for a candidate that supports the ongoing subjugation and exploitation of the Palestinian people. Because that is exactly what Israel is has done, and the U.S. is its primary enabler in doing so. I won't lend my approval by voting for an individual who will help perpetuate the problem.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Sounds to me like you belong on GreenUnderground.
IF you do not support Democratic candidates, you have directly violated this site's TOS.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Joel thakkar
(363 posts)and it is against DU rules to post anything in support of candidate of any other party...
Also, majority of the green party voters are democratic party loss and republican party gain as votes split.
Thus, be careful you are walking on thin line here...
I am always supportive of a more left than democratic party but usually they need to win local elections in blue states where chances of republican parties winning is so low that even if votes split, democrat or the more leftist party would win (for example : Seattle city elections, socialist alternative party).
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)the Constitution and traditional Liberal values. Alas, Democratic Presidential candidates generally do not do these things. If they want my vote, they will.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)This site will support whomsoever is nominated for the presidency and support of any other candidate will be a blatant violation of TOS.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Every American should. Makes me want to vote for her more.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Palestine deserves to have security and self-determination every bit as much as Israel.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I agree with you 100 percent.
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Joel thakkar
(363 posts)so i decided to search her website for her exact position...
roody
(10,849 posts)Response to roody (Reply #3)
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roody
(10,849 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)other than trade agreements.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)I know she didn't "vote" for it; ( she wasn't "there" . But did she think it was a good idea?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)She took her time before endorsing Obama's nuke deal with Iran, would keep military force against Iran "on the table" etc.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)If so, it's plausible she might have voted for it as well.
Joel thakkar
(363 posts)she opposed the iraq war..not sure about how trusted the website/source is
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)He (Trevor Loudon) indexes everyone to the left of Ronald Reagan.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)It's disturbing that she wouldn't support Palestine at the UN, though.
I support her stands against Wall Street and her Populist message...but, her military views and support for Israeli aggression against children and other innocents is disturbing.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)and, she is IMPORTANT for Democratic Party Going Forward.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)All freedom loving people support Israels right to exist. It's there.
But only a few support Israel when it commits what appears to be crimes against humanity.
Of course, given the screwed up nature of modern American politics, accusing Israel of committing crimes against humanity is heavily censored and attacked. There is no real freedom of speech when it comes to Israel, all speech is tightly controlled.
Joel thakkar
(363 posts)but many think that there should be atleast 2 changes to US policy for Israel
1) Stop all military aid to Israel...they can obviously defend themselves..
2) Pressure them more in reducing civilian casualties.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I read your posts all the time.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)And both political parties reflect that reality.
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)Although I don't doubt her sincerity in those remarks, I'd rather Warren have a fighting chance to implement her economic populism than fail to choose her battles wisely and get nowhere.
And that goes for any Democratic candidate on the ballot.
At the end of the day, if someone champions my economic interests... they can fly an Israeli flag from their car for all I care.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Warren is, without a doubt, a vast improvement on Hillary but she's wrong on this.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)the *not as bad* DEMS are all business as usual. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
PCIntern
(25,481 posts)You "anti-Zionist" zealots can't catch a break, can you?
Gee, maybe she knows something you don't...
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I am also a strong proponent of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which I believe to be in the interest of Israel and the United States, with a Jewish, democratic state of Israel and a state for the Palestinian people.
The U.S. can and should play an active role in promoting a diplomatic resolution to the conflict that is agreed to by the parties, but I do not believe that a lasting peace can be imposed from the outside or that either party should take unilateral steps - such as the Palestinians' application for UN membership - that move the parties further away from negotiations.
I still disagree with her re: "the Palestinian's unilateral application for UN membership..."
Why should the Palestinian's need permission or approval from anybody else to apply for UN Membership?
And I disagree with her statement, "To me, it is a moral imperative to support and defend Israel, and I am committed to ensuring its long-term security by maintaining its qualitative military edge."
I feel no "moral imperative" to either support or defend Israel.
That said, I still prefer her to Clinton since at least she's not in bed with Wall Street and we might finally get rid of Summers and his friends.
http://elizabethwarren.com/issues/foreign-policy#israel
WillyT
(72,631 posts)I also support Palestinians... just not their right-wing yahoos with rockets.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)When Warren says:
...it basically means she supports sending sophisticated US weaponry to Israel. That same hi tech weaponry is used to kill Palestinians.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)They do have a right to exist.
They should be able to defend themselves.
And should be able to defend themselves from terrorist organizations.
As for the last one, I disagree. But, I will still vote for her. I'm more concerned with what is happening here before what is happening abroad. She can fix many of the major issues we have here. Then we can work on those abroad.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Cha
(296,848 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)To me, it is a moral imperative to support and defend Israel, and I am committed to ensuring its long-term security by maintaining its qualitative military edge. Israel must be able to defend itself from the serious threats it faces from terrorist organizations to hostile states, including Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and others.
And nothing like that here ...
http://www.warren.senate.gov/