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"Too many actors have run for office," he writes. "There's one difference between me and them: I know I'm not qualified. In my opinion, Arnold Schwarzenegger wasn't qualified to be governor of California. Ronald Reagan wasn't qualified to be governor, let alone president. I was a vice president of the Screen Actors Guild when he was its president. My duties consisted of attending meetings and voting. The only thing I remember is that Ronnie never had an original thought and that we had to tell him what to say. That's no way to run a union, let along a state or a country."
Garner writes that he was asked to run for Congress in 1962 as a Republican, and "it didn't stop them when I told them I was a Democrat.
They just thought I could win." In 1990, Democratic leaders approached him about running for governor of California, but the discussion got to the issue of abortion and Garner says he answered, "I don't have an opinion, because that's up to the woman. It has nothing to do with me." The conversation pretty much stopped there.
Garner is what he calls a "bleeding-heart liberal," having participated in the 1963 civil rights March on Washington and later advocating for a number of progressive causes. He voted for Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1952, he writes, but never cast a ballot for a Republican again. He voted for Adlai Stevenson in 1956, and calls him "the most intelligent presidential candidate we've ever had. I think Obama runs a close second."
http://variety.com/2011/biz/opinion/in-new-memoir-james-garner-slams-reagan-other-actors-who-run-for-office-37170/
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)Thank you for this.
underpants
(182,740 posts)Like in a real sense not just his public persona.
malthaussen
(17,184 posts)"He then went to Korea for 14 months in the Regular Army, serving in the 5th Regimental Combat Team in the Korean War. He was wounded twice, first in the face and hand from shrapnel fire from a mortar round, and second on April 23, 1951 in the buttocks from friendly fire from U.S. fighter jets as he dived headfirst into a foxhole. Garner was awarded the purple heart in Korea for the first injury. For the second wound, he received a second Purple Heart (eligibility requirement: "As the result of friendly fire while actively engaging the enemy" , although Garner received the medal in 1983, 32 years after his injury.[10][13][14][15] Garner was a self-described "scrounger" for his company in Korea, a role he later played in The Great Escape[16] and The Americanization of Emily." (Wikipedia bio)
So not just a bleeding-heart liberal, but liberally bleeding from the butt.
Dirt-poor hardscrabble kid from Oklahoma. Yeah, I think he was probably pretty tough.
-- Mal
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)underpants
(182,740 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Gothmog
(145,086 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)I was pleasantly shocked when, at the end of his memoir, he talked about how much he felt cannabis had helped him in his life. both for emotional support and dealing with arthritis.
So those of you still partake, smoke a bowl for Jim.
frylock
(34,825 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)Yup Jimmy did have clear thinking about the ganja. A truly great man, IMO. Not because of the ganja; because of everything he was and everything he did. We need more people like Jimmy.
And Ye GODZ what a great talent. Of all of them I think the only one I hold above Jimmy is Bogart. (another librul troublemaker).
Now then: shit, where's that lighter? ah. found it.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)I'll miss him
Auggie
(31,158 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)He has his curmudgeon moments, but what 80+ year old wouldn't?
Other thing I respect about Garner -- he was a great actor and also handled humor brilliantly. Very much like Cary Grant in that regard.
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)butterfly77
(17,609 posts)R.I.P.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)Bummer, good man.
packman
(16,296 posts)Sad to hear this. Some good people should live longer. Seems like all my favorites are passing away. RIP Jim.
valerief
(53,235 posts)One of his fairly recent comedies (in his long career) was <i>My Fellow Americans</i> with Jack Lemmon. It cracked me up.
Other comedies of his I enjoyed were:
Victor Victoria
Move Over Darling
The Americanization of Emily
Support Your Local Sheriff
The Wheeler Dealers
The Thrill of It All
Boys Night Out
Noncoms I liked:
36 Hours
Marlowe
Barbarians at the Gate
Gorgeous, sexy, smart, funny, AND a liberal. Damn, they don't make 'em better than Garner.
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)There weren't many people in theater when my friend & I went to it. About 1/2 hour into four people got up from their seats and moved into the row behind us. After the movie ended, they told us they moved over by us because we were the only other ones in the theater laughing at some of the more subtle jokes. Though the line my friend & I noticed hardly noticed anyone but us laughing at was when Mount Rushmore was referred to as a "natural wonder".
I suppose the movie didn't do that well because you had to know a little bit about history - and be a Democrat to really enjoy it. (Like when Lauren Bacall told Jack Lemmon he was being so "George Bush" .
And I liked the scene when he & Jack Lemmon jump off the train, just like he did in "The Great Escape".
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)dhill926
(16,336 posts)Lost a good one...
glinda
(14,807 posts)My Dad's all time favorite actor... Especially, in the Rockford Files. One of the only shows I ever saw him actively sit down and watch.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Siwsan
(26,257 posts)The tears just welled up and rolled down my face. I haven't done that since George Harrison died. And the strange thing is, like several other people have written, I was just thinking about him, the other day - wondering how he was and recalling some of my favorite James Garner movies. It's mystifying.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)as an actor and as a man. He "knew what he didn't know" and stuck to what he was good at. He NAILED Ah-nold and Ronnie!
RIP Mr Garner. You will be missed.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)spooky3
(34,430 posts)Sounds as if he was a wonderful person.
Michael Beschloss @BeschlossDC 2h
James Garner (1928-2014) with Diahann Carroll at 1963 March on Washington: #Eliofson
Geoff R. Casavant
(2,381 posts)Who is that holding Garner's left hand? The face looks almost Marlon Brando-esque.
bigtree
(85,986 posts). . . it's Brando.
YBR31
(152 posts)I met him once on vacation at a restaurant. While we were chatting, a man about 20 years my senior made a very rude pass at me. Mr. Garner told him in no certain term to get lost. He was a real gentleman and treated me like a daughter. He had been chatting with my father and me and my dad had stepped away. I ran into him a few more times and he always remembered me. He was a lovely man.
LittleGirl
(8,282 posts)thanks for sharing.
renate
(13,776 posts)Thanks for sharing it! I love finding out that people I like by reputation really are nice in real life.
randys1
(16,286 posts)barbtries
(28,787 posts)a patient in an office where i worked in the 90s - one day i got to work a little late and he asked me, "why did i have to be here at 8 and you got to come in at 9?" i said cause i'm special...his demeanor was rockford all the way. good guy.
calimary
(81,198 posts)He sure pegged ronnie. Nothing but a cardboard cut-out. Tell him where to stand. Prop him up. Hold up the cue cards. Pull the string, and watch him go! He was one of the original members of the "...but he/she photographs well" club. If "St. ronnie" were still alive, you better believe he'd be on Pox Noise with all the blondes. Hell, he'd have his own show with bill-o as a lead-in. He'd have been perfect for that. Nobody read lines like he did. At that, at snow-jobbing the public, he was a master. Unfortunately. His "legacy" has cursed our land.
Reminds me of my favorite Bette Davis quote: "you should never say bad things about the dead, you should only say good. Joan Crawford is dead. Good." Switch out the words "Joan Crawford" for ronald reagan and you get what I'm feeling about that schmuck.
joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)calimary
(81,198 posts)He was a master in the slogan-delivery department. All that acting served him and all his greedy little pirate friends very well. I was even a little bit afraid of him because he struck me as the most dangerous man in America BECAUSE of his skill at salesmanship. That aw-shucks delivery, the gently shaking head, the eyebrow thing - one of 'em went up, one of 'em went down, very cute and folksy and "aw, what a kindly old man! Harmless and amiable like that fun old uncle with the fun stories and famous-friends anecdotes and salty Irish pub-style jokes. Adorable! Let's all sit around by the camp fire, at his knee, and listen to "Ol' Dutch." And in the meantime, the snake oil oozes out of his mouth and down his backside, along the ground until it finds targets with open pores to seep into. And pretty soon, the target is consumed - and overtaken - and owned - and becomes part of the monster. Without firing a shot. Without shedding a drop of blood. A completely clean and painless kill. No muss, no fuss, and they're totally body-snatched. Zombi-fied. Never even knew what hit 'em. He poisoned our collective mind here in America. Made it sound sooooooooo good to turn generosity and compassion and "my brother's keeper" and care and concern for "the Least of These" upside down and ass-up. Morning in America and all that crap. Shining City on a Hill and win one more for the Gipper and all those nice slogans from that nice avuncular harmless lovable ol' dude who was 90-thousand years old with an accordion-pleated face but his hair somehow never grayed... Toxic Phony!!!
But he photographs well... (especially when you slap a 120-foot American flag behind him and lots of old-Hollywood Busby Berkeley staging all around him.)
C Moon
(12,212 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)doesn't it?
joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)What a likeable, amiable guy and it came across in his career, he fit perfectly as Maverick and Rockford. I remember how pleased I was when I learned he was quite progressive. A younger guy who has a similar persona is Richard Dean Anderson, and I was quite happy to learn from a mass email from him that he's a bit of a lefty himself.
RIP Jimmy, you will be missed, and if there is an afterlife I hope you're laughing it up there with old friends and family.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)wish he had contributed here, given some that posit ideas here. May he find a big bowl of cannabis where he's gone.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Ya never know who is a DUer.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)LoisB
(7,197 posts)human. May he R.I.P.
One of those movies I watch every time it's on even if I don't have time to watch it. He was so good in The Great Escape, also.
LoisB
(7,197 posts)makes me cry.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Rest in Peace, James Garner. Hopefully there are Raiders games in Heaven.
ChazInAz
(2,564 posts)I always liked his self-deprecating sense of humor. He never took himself all that seriously. An uncommon trait among us actors!
PumpkinAle
(1,210 posts)about him that you knew he was a nice guy.
A real loss - RIP James and condolences to his family and friends.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)And it has lingered through the years. He played flawed and cynical role good guys which I believe is why he has always been popular. Everyone could identify with his characters.
Rest in Peace my first love.
Baitball Blogger
(46,698 posts)have a beer with. Though, I would probably order the Pinot Noir Oregon Planet 2012.
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)Damn strong liberal democrat.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)A great actor and a great man.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Be every account from people who worked with him or met him, he was an intelligent, pleasant and loyal person, despite having had an extremely difficult childhood. He will be missed.
My sincerest condolences to his family and friends.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Thank you for entertaining us. Thank you for doing your part to advance us. Thank you for the example of how a person should act if they were to become successful.
Whether we are ready or not we have it from here, so sleep well sir.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)In the past, you'd often see him on the sidelines rooting them on in games. So sad to learn of his passing. He was brilliant in one of the best shows in the history of television, the Rockford Files. My dad loved him too, especially after going to the theater in the 1960s to see him in The Great Escape, the same pow camp where my dad was a pow.
americannightmare
(322 posts)and the star of one of my fave shows as a kid...with one of the best theme songs ever...
bayareaboy
(793 posts)to the coliseum, later on. Every home game in Oakland it seemed. he was there.
I think he was a great working-class actor who liked to hangout with a working class team.
Don't think that the Rams were even in his mind.
Reter
(2,188 posts)I don't know anything about Stevenson, not do I know about the most intelligent. But IMO the best in the past 40+ years was McGovern. Mondale a close second.
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)because, God forbid, we have a president who is too smart.
Some things never change.
gopiscrap
(23,736 posts)Well done good and faithful servent
Zorra
(27,670 posts)I enjoyed his acting and character in every role I saw him play.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)as the plots were often tongue-in-cheek, and the soundtrack was centered on electric guitars, playing contemporaneous styles.
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)Thank you, James.
Thanks for the thread, book_worm.
G_j
(40,366 posts)and I did too. A decent, kind, intelligent, icon of the culture, one of the best.
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)Really good, smart movie. And a really good smart man.
James Baumgartner. (I think.) Texan. I am very sad.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)Stuart G
(38,414 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)Shooting a scene for TRF, with Rita Moreno. Got his autograph for somebody named 'skippy' for some ladies that lived in an apt. building I was working in. They knew I was fresh from the country and naive so they asked me to do it for them. He was very nice about it, rolled his eyes smiled and sighed and said "all right, what's the name". Skippy. I just loved the guy. RIP
Cha
(297,123 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)Rest in peace, my angel, my very first teenage crush!
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)Glad he was one of he good ones
kiva
(4,373 posts)It feels like he was around for my whole life, on TV and movies...he brought much joy.
life long demo
(1,113 posts)Just confirms why I have loved Jim Garner for decades. I am so sad. I still watch Rockford Files on TV. It never got old. It's a coincidence that yesterday I was watching an old movie staring James Garner where he played Wyatt Earp. Rest in peace Jim. You did good.
47of74
(18,470 posts)And up yours Ronnie and Arnold.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)He was talented, incredibly handsome and a REAL liberal.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)I miss you already.
K&R
NBachers
(17,098 posts)Safe driving, Rockfish. Say hi to Rocky.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)felt the same way, and thus, "Murphey's Romance" . I remember reading his remarks about Reagan, but, hey, he was a great sock puppet for the one percent. I remember my late father-in-law, a life long Democrat and a U.M.W.A. member being constantly tickled by, and liking the Gipper while he was in office (they were the same age).
MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)Goodbye James Garner.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)even before I knew his politics. He will be missed but thankfully lives on in his films and TV.
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)One of my favorite shows ever. You could see liberal themes in some episodes including two episodes that touched on gay issues in a positive, matter-of-fact manner. It was subtle, but - in hindsight - pretty amazing and ahead of its time for the 1970's.
I remember seeing James Garner on Charlie Rose many years after Rockford wrapped. He identified in that interview as a liberal through-and-through and wasn't afraid to say it.
Today, you can't even get liberals to proudly identify themselves as such, as using that "L" word gets you attacked mercilessly by the right wing.
Loved Jim Garner. Rest in piece, dude. You've always had my respect and admiration.
navarth
(5,927 posts)This was a class guy. What a 'hollywood star' should really be.
I listened to him in conversation in 1987. I happened to be staying at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel at the time he was making that cowboy movie with Bruce Willis and they were shooting in the hotel lobby. We happened to be on scene and one member of the party had a conversation with Jimmy while he was waiting for his next shot to be set up. He was so courteous, gently spoken, just a really down guy. He was very nice to her. I was standing 2 feet away and I didn't interject because I didn't want to impose on him. If I had that chance again, I would have asked him if I could have the honor of shaking him by the hand.
I call him Jimmy because that's what Stuart Margolin called him, and I thinks that's what his friends would call him, and his work in movies and tv made me his friend. So I say thank you Jimmy; thanks for everything. We will not see your like again.
japple
(9,819 posts)you owe it to yourself to watch it. It's one of my favorites. Loved the Support Your Local Sheriff and Support Your Local Gunfighter movies, as well as The Rockford Files. He was a genuinely good guy, with a big heart. There are not many like that in this world and esp. in the film/tv industry.
ladyVet
(1,587 posts)He was a good man, and a good actor.
Swift passage, brother. Light one up for us, okay?
fishwax
(29,149 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)My condolences to his family.
P.S - I know it's not rational, but it makes me so angry when wonderful people like this leave the world, while evil people like Dick Cheney are still alive. Is it true that the most evil people live forever?
tech3149
(4,452 posts)Honor his life by watching Grand Prix. The best ever motorsport film with Mr Garner in the lead role.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)He had a magnetic personality and could charm a person out of their shoes!
He was most definitely a star, with all of the connotations that word carries with it.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)My grandpa, a WWII vet, voted for one Republican ever - Eisenhower in '52. Four years later, he turned around and voted Stevenson and kept voting Democratic up until his last election (he died in 2003).
progressoid
(49,969 posts)We just had that discussion yesterday. Now 81, he mentioned voting for Ike yesterday as we were driving along "Eisenhower Way". Since then he's been a Registered Bleeding Heart Democrat.