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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 01:12 PM Jul 2014

Israel using flechette shells in Gaza





The Israeli military is using flechette shells, which spray out thousands of tiny and potentially lethal metal darts, in its military operation in Gaza.

Six flechette shells were fired towards the village of Khuzaa, east of Khan Younis, on 17 July, according to the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights. Nahla Khalil Najjar, 37, suffered injuries to her chest, it said. PCHR provided a picture of flechettes taken by a fieldworker last week.

The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) did not deny using the shells in the conflict. "As a rule, the IDF only employs weapons that have been determined lawful under international law, and in a manner which fully conforms with the laws of armed conflict," a spokesperson said in response to a request for specific comment on the deployment of flechettes.

B'Tselem, an Israeli human rights organisation, describes a flechette shell as "an anti-personnel weapon that is generally fired from a tank. The shell explodes in the air and releases thousands of metal darts 37.5mm in length, which disperse in a conical arch 300 metres long and about 90 metres wide".

The munitions are not prohibited under international humanitarian law, but according to B'Tselem, "other rules of humanitarian law render their use in the Gaza Strip illegal. One of the most fundamental principles is the obligation to distinguish between those who are involved and those who are not involved in the fighting, and to avoid to the extent possible injury to those who are not involved. Deriving from this principle is the prohibition of the use of an imprecise weapon which is likely to result in civilian injuries."


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israel-using-flechette-shells-in-gaza
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Israel using flechette shells in Gaza (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Jul 2014 OP
But, they said they were only targeted, surgical strikes, designed to minimize civilian casualties? Electric Monk Jul 2014 #1
As the man said, you don't perform surgery with bombs jmowreader Jul 2014 #13
Israel commits more humane war crimes geek tragedy Jul 2014 #2
But they are the most compassionate war businessmen in the history of Western civilizations did you Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #6
Firing these in civilian areas should clearly be illegal as there is no way to "target" peacebird Jul 2014 #3
The world is shocked by the carnage and the propaganda used to cover it, that much is clear. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #5
Is this the "pinpoint operation"? Ichingcarpenter Jul 2014 #7
I guess the human shields were proving too effective, killing children on a beach was too hard. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #4
God's chosen libodem Jul 2014 #8
Completely disgusting 4now Jul 2014 #9
And our tax dollars. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #10
The Israeli propagandists will no doubt claim BillZBubb Jul 2014 #11
Just asked the veteran about this and he said... TRoN33 Jul 2014 #12
War crime! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #14
That My Tax Dollars Support This Activity Sickens Me - It Must End cantbeserious Jul 2014 #15
Uncivilized defacto7 Jul 2014 #16
Loathesome. johnnyreb Jul 2014 #17
That is beyond sick. geomon666 Jul 2014 #18
Are those different than cluster bombs? Renew Deal Jul 2014 #19
How can any weapon... N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2014 #20
Well, as long as they're not forbidden, I guess Israel keeps the moral high ground after all. Orrex Jul 2014 #21
Are they made in Israel or malaise Jul 2014 #22

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
13. As the man said, you don't perform surgery with bombs
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:36 PM
Jul 2014

If anyone wants to know why every Arab nation's constitution has called for the destruction of Israel...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Israel commits more humane war crimes
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 01:15 PM
Jul 2014

than any other nation. Israel has every right to turn Arab civilians into voodoo dolls, because Israel.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. But they are the most compassionate war businessmen in the history of Western civilizations did you
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jul 2014

not get the message?

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
3. Firing these in civilian areas should clearly be illegal as there is no way to "target"
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jul 2014

It is indiscriminate, hitting anyone - civilian and soldier or combatant. Israels claims it tries not to harm civilians and 'regrets' when they are killed but is using THIS?

I believe Israel has gone beyond the pale. Their actions are unforgivable.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
8. God's chosen
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jul 2014

So willing to .let go and let God. The just need a few fletchetts to prove 'He' Is on their side.

They can keep their old Testament male God. Should have called him Thor or Zeus instead of that name that can't be written or spoken.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
11. The Israeli propagandists will no doubt claim
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:05 PM
Jul 2014

anyone killed or maimed by these weapons deserved it. After all, Israel ordered them to leave.

In a just world, Netanyahu would have an international warrant issued on him for war crimes.

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
12. Just asked the veteran about this and he said...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:31 PM
Jul 2014

It's considered as semi cluster bomb without exploding ordinances, he said this one should be illegal.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
16. Uncivilized
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jul 2014

It's all anti-humanity. Slaughter of the innocent is uncivilized no matter what ideology demands it.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
19. Are those different than cluster bombs?
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 11:42 PM
Jul 2014

And are they legal? Why would they be used in an urban/civilian environment?

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,721 posts)
20. How can any weapon...
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 08:53 AM
Jul 2014

that has the potential to maim or kill anyone, be used in the same sentence as the word humanitarian?

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
21. Well, as long as they're not forbidden, I guess Israel keeps the moral high ground after all.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:00 AM
Jul 2014

I was worried that their ongoing murder of hunrdeds of civilians might compromise Israel's integrity. Thank goodness that they're killing those civilians with legally lethal weapons. I'd hate to think that they're murdering hundreds of civilians illegally.

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