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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 05:14 PM Jul 2014

Gay Club in Kiev Attacked By Mob of Neo-Nazis: Video

LGBT community in Eastern Europe continued this week with an attack by a group of 15 to 20 neo-nazis against the gay club "Pomada" (Lipstick) in the Ukrainian capital city, Kiev. The melee was captured on video by a surveillance camera.

--CLIP
A statement released by the Interior Ministry of Ukraine in Kiev stated the following:

At the scene, according to an entertainment venue staff, law enforcement officers found that shortly before the call to the police came to the administration building about 15 people in camouflage and balaclava (ski masks) and began to commit unlawful acts. Located near the main entrance to the nightclub, unidentified persons threw a smoke bomb and several firecrackers. this damaged the facade of the building, ventilation and outdoor surveillance camera.

The video captured shows club goers rushed into the building by a bouncer while a gang approaches. The gang, many of whom were dressed in ski masks with neo-Nazi symbols storm the front of the building, kicking and punching in an attempt to get into the club. They quickly fled for reasons unclear.



Pink News reports far-right homophobic groups were influential in Ukraine’s recent coup, prior to which the parliament attempted to pass an anti-discrimination bill.

The attack follows the cancellation of the city’s scheduled gay pride event.

http://www.edgeonthenet.com/news/international/News/162027/gay_club_in_kiev_attacked_by_mob_of_neo-nazis:_video
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Gay Club in Kiev Attacked By Mob of Neo-Nazis: Video (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2014 OP
Hmmm, looks like Kiev has some problems on the home front. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #1
Yes, and those who oppose these fascists... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #2
Nobody's saying there aren't fascists. Igel Jul 2014 #3
Is it not possible both sides are bad? HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #4
We have hate crimes here too in America. William769 Jul 2014 #5
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. Yes, and those who oppose these fascists...
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 05:31 PM
Jul 2014

... are accused by some DUers as being "Putin lovers". That is purely the binary thinking of inferior intellects. The choices aren't always black and white. Sometimes they are grey and grey, and sometimes even black and black. I suspect Ukraine poses the latter choice, in which case involvement by the US on either side carries risk for no reward.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
3. Nobody's saying there aren't fascists.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 06:16 PM
Jul 2014

However, the group that is fighting them has just made it a blanket "government" policy to raid and close gay clubs in Donets'k, Luhans'k, etc. God's Army--I'm sorry, the Russian Orthodox Army--has no use for them and outlawed them. They're also puritans when it comes to closing sex shops in general and limit alcohol sales.

The outcry over a kiss at EuroVision was immense, and the LPR and DPR press made hay out of it--the Kiev government had no problem with it, allowing decadence like that on the airwaves. The DPR and LPR closed down a tv channel or two, citing the very fact that the Eurovision contest was broadcast with such scurrilous content. The Kiev government may be fascists, but they're gay-loving fascists. Even Oleh Lyashko, hardly a moderate by any means, is condemned not so much for being a fascist as for being the "homosexual, Lyashko," in the rebel press.

It's unlikely Right Sector will have much representation at all in the new Rada when the current one self-dissolves and the new one is elected. Svoboda will have a bit more. Between the two of them they got about 2% of the vote last election. The Party of Regions might have a bit more--some vote ethnicity and fear more than anything else--but not a whole lot. But Right Sector might yet face the same fate that the Communist Party has. Forcible disbanding.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. Is it not possible both sides are bad?
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jul 2014

Thats what Ive said since the beginning. Its an immature thought process to "determine" one side is bad, therefore the other must be good.... a thought process usually found in simplistic conservative minds.
Syria is another example. All the fighting factions there are bad.

William769

(55,145 posts)
5. We have hate crimes here too in America.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 07:26 PM
Jul 2014

The difference is we have laws to protect the LGBT community, but it still happens. Ukraine has some laws to protect LGBT people on a national level, but hate crimes still happen.

Russia on the other hand has laws that entice hate against the LGBT community and hate crimes there occur regularly. There lies the difference.

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