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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:02 PM Jul 2014

David Gregory Is Toast as Chuck Todd and Joe Scarborough Fight For Meet The Press Gig

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07/24/david-gregory-toast-chuck-todd-joe-scarborough-fight-meet-press-gig.html

David Gregory Is Toast as Chuck Todd and Joe Scarborough Fight For Meet The Press Gig
By: Jason Easley
Thursday, July, 24th, 2014, 5:57 pm


A new report says that David Gregory is toast as host of Meet The Press and that Chuck Todd and Joe Scarborough are battling to replace him.

Lloyd Grove at The Daily Beast followed up on yesterday’s report on Gregory’s expected dumping from Meet The Press:

In multiple conversations that I had with people inside and outside NBC after the item appeared, it was taken as a given that Gregory is toast.



The principal pretenders to the MTP throne are NBC News’ chief White House correspondent and political director, Chuck Todd—who anchors The Daily Rundown, MSNBC’s weekday 9 a.m. show—and the cohosts of the three-hour-long Morning Joe program that precedes it, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski.

According to my sources, Scarborough, 51, a Washington-savvy former Republican congressman from Florida, and Brzezinski, 47, the supremely well-connected daughter of former White House national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, have been aggressively angling for the job in the event of Gregory’s all-but-certain demise.


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Joe Scarborough would be a disaster for Meet The Press. MTP likes at least to create the illusion of playing it down the middle. There is no mistaking where the former Republican congressman comes from. If a report from last year is to be believed, NBC is seriously considering changing Meet The Press so that it would be more like Morning Joe.

Chuck Todd wouldn’t be much of departure from what David Gregory is doing now. Todd is a frequent panelist on Meet The Press, and he is loaded with the same Beltway groupthink that plagues Gregory’s version of the show. NBC would be wise to go out of house to bring in a fresh voice for the program, but they seem hellbent on taking one of their least popular talents on MSNBC and elevating them to Meet The Press.

Gregory’s stint on the show has been bad, but replacing him with a Chuck Todd or Joe Scarborough could be even worse.
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David Gregory Is Toast as Chuck Todd and Joe Scarborough Fight For Meet The Press Gig (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2014 OP
All bad choices! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #1
If those are the only choices, then why not just dump the whole show? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #2
+1 bravenak Jul 2014 #3
I mean, really? I think they're secretly trying to dump the show if this is who they're talking to. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #7
I rarely watch it now. bravenak Jul 2014 #15
Exactly, reminds me of why did BOTH late night NBC shows have to go to milk-toast white guys? randys1 Jul 2014 #6
Do you think rotating hosts would work on a weekly show like that? Different faces. Different.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #10
I cant watch the Sunday shows, I would have bought ten tv's by now randys1 Jul 2014 #12
I can't watch MTP. Just looking at Gregory upsets my stomach. And I've heard enuf here about his.. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #14
That could get costly. nt Snotcicles Jul 2014 #21
You would probably also need a few more laptops, randys1. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #25
Because Arsenio is a total failure? Because of late-night demographics? WinkyDink Jul 2014 #30
Okay...plenty of criticism here; who's a moderator you would find acceptable? brooklynite Jul 2014 #53
If you could get him out of his contract with CNN, I'd give it to Anderson Cooper Hippo_Tron Jul 2014 #56
Perhaps so customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #57
Keith Olbermann...nt abakan Jul 2014 #62
sigh randys1 Jul 2014 #63
Agreed! nt avebury Jul 2014 #29
Phil Griffin is the decider here and until NBC rids themselves of him, their ratings will tank. monmouth3 Jul 2014 #38
Uggh... Either one would be just as bad. hlthe2b Jul 2014 #4
...and that wouldn't change the show, so why make that change? Fawke Em Jul 2014 #5
Meet The Press is running on momentum. Archae Jul 2014 #8
If these are the alternatives, why not cancel the show entirely? myrna minx Jul 2014 #9
Three losers if you ask me. lpbk2713 Jul 2014 #11
That's like trying to cure a common cold with the plague or pestilence n/t Blaukraut Jul 2014 #13
Ah, you missed the real candidate: ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2014 #22
Twice nothing is still nothing JHB Jul 2014 #16
I doubt anyone is considering moaning joe gwheezie Jul 2014 #17
The only way they could save that program would be a to do a 180 and hire a John Fugelsang type. nt Snotcicles Jul 2014 #18
A Fugelsang type won't save the show either. You'd never get Republicans to go on. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #20
Yeah they would, he can refrain and be subtle, he showed that already. Plus the right aren't going Snotcicles Jul 2014 #23
Come on, NBC. Doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results is catbyte Jul 2014 #19
I think it would be good ONLY if....... Politicalboi Jul 2014 #24
I never thought about it like that. bravenak Jul 2014 #31
I'm here on the west coast Politicalboi Jul 2014 #41
Oh please, spare us the Toad and the Scareboro! sheshe2 Jul 2014 #26
Either choice would be the fire to Gregory's frying pan. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #27
If ever there was a question whether MTP has been and continues to be a vehicle for... Spazito Jul 2014 #28
Rachel Maddow gets my vote itsrobert Jul 2014 #32
Mine, too. That show needs a good liberal host to return it to relevance. LonePirate Jul 2014 #45
I heard Thom Hartmann lordsummerisle Jul 2014 #33
Thom also commented on DGregory's Ilsa Jul 2014 #36
Moronic choices for replacement. Damnit, get somebody like Ray Suarez or somebody who will attempt Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #34
Damn, one rw toasted and two rw vying for meet john mccain.. fucking US Mediawhore inc. Cha Jul 2014 #35
Maybe the whole show is dead? I don't think I'd miss it. nt tridim Jul 2014 #37
My thought too, it's really become an irrelevant show. I think similar of Morning Joe. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #42
File under: Not understanding what the problem was in the first place. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #39
I've not watched MTP for so long. And certainly one of those pricks would NOT interest me in MTP.n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #40
I was reading the comments, Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #43
If this is true, the SHOW is Toast! Mike Nelson Jul 2014 #44
Both lean too far sideways for me i.e. towards the right. oldandhappy Jul 2014 #46
maybe Melissa Harris-Perry?? oldandhappy Jul 2014 #47
The #1 criteria: kentuck Jul 2014 #48
None of them are smart enough. Motown_Johnny Jul 2014 #49
from shit to shite spanone Jul 2014 #50
People who are criticizing these choices and saying NBC "doesn't understand" seem to be Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #51
Joe Scarborough? Chakab Jul 2014 #52
Chuck Toad? Joe (Dead Intern) Scarborough? MohRokTah Jul 2014 #54
The gravitas of Toad, the boldness of ScarBro BeyondGeography Jul 2014 #55
Press the Meat needs to go to the great TV show graveyard in the sky. It no longer serves the public Lint Head Jul 2014 #58
SCARBOROUGH????? Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #59
How about Howard Beale? longship Jul 2014 #60
If they want to save the show, I say bring in Gwen Ifill. Raine1967 Jul 2014 #61
Sounds like a lose-lose situation to me! Blue Owl Jul 2014 #64
Go back to the original concept of a panel, as in PLURAL. NCarolinawoman Jul 2014 #65
Gawd...just pull the damn plug already! AngryOldDem Jul 2014 #66
NBC is scraping the bottom of the barrel! yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2014 #67
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
15. I rarely watch it now.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:16 PM
Jul 2014

If I had to see Sir Crooked Goatee or Morning joke, it would turn into never ever.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
6. Exactly, reminds me of why did BOTH late night NBC shows have to go to milk-toast white guys?
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jul 2014

Why couldnt one of those jobs have gone to ANYBODY else?


I like Jimmy and Seth well enough, but sheesh...

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
10. Do you think rotating hosts would work on a weekly show like that? Different faces. Different....
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jul 2014

perspectives. And ferchrissakes, different GUESTS. It's like Republican Palooza on these Sunday talk shows.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
14. I can't watch MTP. Just looking at Gregory upsets my stomach. And I've heard enuf here about his..
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:16 PM
Jul 2014

regular stable of guests, and I'm not impressed, or the least bit interested.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
25. You would probably also need a few more laptops, randys1.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jul 2014

I haven't watched TV much for the last few years, and thankfully I work Sundays.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
53. Okay...plenty of criticism here; who's a moderator you would find acceptable?
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:38 PM
Jul 2014

...which doesn't necessarily mean "someone who says things -I- agree with"

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
56. If you could get him out of his contract with CNN, I'd give it to Anderson Cooper
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 11:29 PM
Jul 2014

If not, probably Andrea Mitchell. I get that you can't make Rachel Maddow the host of Meet The Press (for the same reason they can't seriously be considering Joe Scarborough). But Chuck Todd is a poor choice, IMO.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
57. Perhaps so
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 11:52 PM
Jul 2014

But I can clearly see that Chuckie's been paying his dues, and it would not surprise me if he got the MTP lead chair.

I do miss Tim Russert, he never bored me.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
38. Phil Griffin is the decider here and until NBC rids themselves of him, their ratings will tank.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:52 PM
Jul 2014

Griffin under estimates the public, we want unbiased programming, not Meet The Republicans.. I remember as a kid MTP had Eric Severeid (pretty sure he was the moderator for MTP) and I swear I did not know what his party affiliation was, he was that good.

hlthe2b

(102,230 posts)
4. Uggh... Either one would be just as bad.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jul 2014

I think Lawrence O'Donnell could do a good job, but the conservatives would hate it. He wouldn't soft-ball the questions. Rachel, likewise.

But they'll go with some RW meme spewing dudd, who won't do any homework and will just let it stay the worthless time sink that it is.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
5. ...and that wouldn't change the show, so why make that change?
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jul 2014

The problem is necessarily Gregory, the man, but that type: white, conservative and left in 1864.

Archae

(46,322 posts)
8. Meet The Press is running on momentum.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:09 PM
Jul 2014

They've been on the air since 194(7?) and maybe this will simply kill it, heck, the televangelists on Sunday morning get better ratings.

But John McCain will always find a place to go to spout.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
17. I doubt anyone is considering moaning joe
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:18 PM
Jul 2014

Joe does this all the time when he insists people also are mentioning he should run for president. He's a lot like palin a narcissistic attention whore who quit after being elected. Joe is too stupid and easily ridiculed to host mtp.
As unlikeable as chuck is he isn't stupid. Joe is stupid. It's about time for a female host.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
23. Yeah they would, he can refrain and be subtle, he showed that already. Plus the right aren't going
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:28 PM
Jul 2014

to give up that face time.

catbyte

(34,374 posts)
19. Come on, NBC. Doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results is
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jul 2014

the definition of insanity. Neither Todd or Scar are fit to host. Although, at least they have quit trying to be unbiased. Appointing a Republican operative kinda outs you.


 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
24. I think it would be good ONLY if.......
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:31 PM
Jul 2014

Murdering Joe would have to give up his morning gig. I so dread when I'm up too late and turn on MSNBC only to find Murdering Joe and his parrot Mika on.

To have to avoid Murdering Joe only one day a week would be awesome.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
31. I never thought about it like that.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:40 PM
Jul 2014

I vote Joe and Chuck to co host. Then i could miss both of the during the week.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
41. I'm here on the west coast
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jul 2014

So being awake at 3 am isn't unusual for me. And I don't like that I can't watch MSNBC at that time. I also hate their prison shows and caught on camera. What a waste of time.

Spazito

(50,319 posts)
28. If ever there was a question whether MTP has been and continues to be a vehicle for...
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:38 PM
Jul 2014

promoting republicans and republican propaganda since Russert first took the seat, NBC considering Todd and Scarborough as Gregory's replacement answers it.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
36. Thom also commented on DGregory's
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:49 PM
Jul 2014

Coworkers throwing him under the bus.

MTP has been dead to me for several years. I'm surprised that NBC hasn't handed it over the John McCain or Lindsey Graham.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
34. Moronic choices for replacement. Damnit, get somebody like Ray Suarez or somebody who will attempt
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 07:46 PM
Jul 2014

at objectivity.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
43. I was reading the comments,
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 08:49 PM
Jul 2014

and I keep seeing people suggest that Rachel Maddow should be the next host. While I agree that she would be a much better pick than either Joe Blow or the fake-straight news anchor Chuck Todd, I still doubt that would work. RM is widely known as a partisan host on her own show, and she frequently has trouble attracting Republican guests. Most of the RWers would probably be too scared to come on MTP anymore if she were to get the job there because they'd fear being asked some hardball questions.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
48. The #1 criteria:
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:05 PM
Jul 2014

They cannot have shown themselves to be too partisan in the past. I think that alone would disqualify Joe Scarborough?

Chuck Todd has not shown himself to be "too partisan" for either side, at times speaking for issues on either side. That would be a point in his favor.

Rachel has shown herself to be an outspoken liberal. That would probably disqualify her for such a position.

Then again, they may hire someone away from ABC, like George Stephanopoulos?

Whomever, will need established credibility.

However, in the end, it is about numbers and audience.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
49. None of them are smart enough.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:14 PM
Jul 2014

MTP is a joke now anyways.

Their only hope is to turn it back into a panel, like it was in the old days. They would still need someone to anchor, but that could be a talking head like Brian Williams.

With multiple persons asking questions there might actually be an intelligent question every now and then. It is called "Meet The Press". They should consider having a variety of reporters on to interview the politician of the week. Then let those "journalists" debate the interview afterwards.

I honestly think it is their only hope.



 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
51. People who are criticizing these choices and saying NBC "doesn't understand" seem to be
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:35 PM
Jul 2014

operating under the assumption that big media really cares about presenting a somewhat balanced picture of reality. What a joke!! Their agenda is to push rightwing corporate propaganda. Full stop.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
58. Press the Meat needs to go to the great TV show graveyard in the sky. It no longer serves the public
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 12:25 AM
Jul 2014

interest as when it was concieved. It's nothing but a political ad show. The internet has rendered it useless. Don't know what the ratings are and that's actually irrelevant considering the propaganda and framing factor.

 

Roy Serohz

(236 posts)
59. SCARBOROUGH?????
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 12:30 AM
Jul 2014

They'd have to change the name of the show to Meet The Joe, as that jackass would be the only one doing any talking!

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
61. If they want to save the show, I say bring in Gwen Ifill.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 01:01 AM
Jul 2014

I'm not joking. I love Rachel Maddow, but she has been branded as a *Liberal*

Ifill does not have that tag of left or right imo. She's fair, smart and independent.

I would LOVE to see her hosting MTP.

I know that I would start watching the show again if that happened.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
65. Go back to the original concept of a panel, as in PLURAL.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jul 2014

Use to be a panel of about four established print journalists who actually had credentials!

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
66. Gawd...just pull the damn plug already!
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 06:55 PM
Jul 2014

MTP died a long, long time ago, perhaps as early as when Lawrence Spivak (Google him, kids) passed on.

How in the hell is either Scarborough or Todd a better replacement?

Please, please NBC -- put it out of its misery.

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