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bigtree

(85,984 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 10:46 AM Jul 2014

GOP Bill Creates Tax Break for Americans Making Six Figures, Ignores Expiring Low-Income Credits

from Mother Jones:

On Friday, the House will vote on a Republican bill that ignores an expiring tax credit for millions of low-income families, while handing one to better-off Americans.

The bill, introduced by Rep. Lynn Jenkins (R-Ks.), changes the way the federal child tax credit works by raising the eligibility cap for married couples. At the same time, the legislation would allow a 2009 child tax credit increase for low-income families to expire at the end of 2017. Here's how that would play out in the coming years. A married couple with two children that bring in $160,000 a year would get a new annual tax cut of $2,200, according to an analysis by the left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP). A single mother with two kids who makes $14,500 a year would lose $1,725 annually.

"The big winners would be the more-affluent families who would become newly eligible for the [child tax credit]," tax experts at the CBPP noted Tuesday. "The losers would be millions of low-income families who are doing exactly what policymakers often say they want these people to do—working, even at low-wage jobs."

Here's a look at how poor, middle-class, and wealthier Americans would be affected by the bill, via the CBPP:



The 2009 law that increased the child tax credit for poor families did so by lowering the income level required for a partial credit to $3,000 and reducing the annual income required for a full credit to $16,333. If it expires, 6 million children and roughly 400,000 veterans and military families would lose all or part of their child tax credit.

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QC

(26,371 posts)
2. But if he does that, the Republicans might say something mean about him!
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jul 2014

They might even stop cooperating with him!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
6. Let me guess your point. Everything is swell and the Democrats won't have a bit of trouble
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jul 2014

winning the House and Senate. Sorry if I am not satisfied with the status quo, but "nice try".

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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
5. "if critics looked beyond their upturned noses" Really? Heaven forbid there would be
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jul 2014

criticism. Heaven forbid someone would want more than the status quo. I don't think the American voters are aware of the obstructionism of the Republicans. Every single Democratic candidate should be shouting it, if it isn't too late.

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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. So are you saying that because he has done such, I can't suggest he do it again?
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 12:43 AM
Jul 2014

Maybe you mistake me for some Consera-Dem that worships the ground Obama walks on. I will always push for more until we stop this rapid slide into poverty. If we don't get more PROGRESSIVES elected in Nov., Wall Street will continue to walk all over us and more children will go to bed hungry.

bigtree

(85,984 posts)
10. no I'm not saying that at all.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 02:10 AM
Jul 2014

I actually agree with you, except for the part about him saying something about republicans. I know for a fact that he has - repeatedly - and I expect him to continue to. If there are sure symptoms of ODS, neglecting to actually find out what the president has said before criticizing him must be one of them.

What I suggest is that he do more than just TALK and actually, physically and materially THREATEN something republicans want. If you think that's advocating or defending the status quo, you're deluding yourself.

Btw, most supporters of the president aren't 'conserva-dems,' no matter what anonymous DUers who know absolutely nothing substantive about the people they insist on labeling think or say.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. My original post was not a criticism. I think the President should make it clear that
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 08:56 AM
Jul 2014

the Republicans are obstructing. IMO he has not done that enough. Secondly, criticism isn't a bad thing. No one is beyond criticism, at least to the liberals. I am a supporter of the president and agree that not all supporters are Conserva-Dems. Those that worship him to the point of trying to shout down criticism, usually are Conserva-Dems.

bigtree

(85,984 posts)
12. I'm not shouting down your criticism
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 09:04 AM
Jul 2014

. . . just pointing out that I can cite several recent and past speeches where he's made the case as eloquently as anyone could about republican obstruction.

What I think is lacking is any action which holds hostage something they want in exchange. That might be made difficult by the fact that republicans don't even seem to care about the things they claim they want when it comes to making their political points. Still, I don't believe he's been aggressive enough and threatening enough to their agenda, often satisfied in getting incremental measures which don't outweigh acquiescing to their agenda.

We don't really disagree on that point of criticizing him, or on what he should say, just on our perception of what he's already said.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
13. I am worried that unless it's clear to the American voter in Nov. that the Republicans
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 09:27 AM
Jul 2014

are obstructing, the voters will stay home.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
14. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 10:18 AM
Jul 2014

I don't really mind seeing this thing go through for that income bracket. It's not exorbitantly high for a family of 4. In NYC an income such as that would be the low end of middle class. A high income here where I live, but whateves...

However, before everyone jumps all over me, the caveat (and point) here being that I find this R plan egregiously disingenuous. They try to play the role of 'the tax cut party', but that obviously isn't true if they are taking away some of the EITC (which I believe this is- they are just using a different acronym) of lower income folks in order to give a better credit to those who are doing ok. Why, and wtf?!?

As mentioned, I personally don't mind seeing folks at that income level get a bit of a break, but don't freakin pay for it by stealing from the poor. The EITC for the working poor is the only good thing Reagan ever signed into law. It was very helpful for me as a single mom working my butt off in a low paying job when my daughter was growing up.

Let the low income folks keep what extra they gained with this tax credit during the (still ongoing) recession years -AND- perhaps expand it even more to include other struggling income brackets in between that higher one proposed by the pukes. If they feel it must be paid for in some way, take the money from the military budget or something... Or just consider it as a type of (still very much needed) stimulus expenditure...

Sorry to go on and on here, but this really pisses me off.

If the bill gets anywhere, I hope the Dems amend the heck out of it to do as I suggested. And if they can't manage to do that, then they better just kill the damn thing.

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