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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI once tried being a bit rough during you know what...
A little hair pull, slap on the butt. Think I read it in Playboy that women like that kind of thing.
My wife kneed me in the nuts. 50 Shades of Black and Blue.
End of story.
Turbineguy
(37,319 posts)like a sensible person!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...isn't always a good thing (I'm your age and learned the same thing accordingly )
trumad
(41,692 posts)So I'm talking away...my wife opens her eyes... and tells me to shut the fuck up.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)You're totally channeling the late Rodney Dangerfield!
trumad
(41,692 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)kickitup
(355 posts)But we both know it ends in the bedroom. I also know I probably like those things due to some horrible internalization of our patriarchal culture, but I trust my husband completely, so I allow it and he indulges me.
I also write erotica. Although stories in which the couple basically live as slave/master and consent is dubious indeed are selling like hotcakes right now, I cannot bring myself to write them. What we view/read most certainly influences our culture at large. Fifty Shades has influenced our culture, and I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing. It seems to me that women readers are wanting more and more of the dominant/submissive stories, with the lines of consent not so clearly drawn.
If one is self-aware and understands one's attraction to that type of story, then fine. Go for it. Escapism can be a good thing. But what I see from reading blogs and forums are people who can't compartmentalize their fantasies and want it 24/7. That bothers me although they are certainly free to live that way if they so desire. I know that if I EVER wanted my husband to control me like that he would refuse, but he is a smart guy who would understand that it wouldn't be healthy for either of us.
My fear is that this attraction on the part of so many people to D/s relationships will spill over into societal attitudes towards the sexes in general. That's the danger of Fifty Shades, in my opinion. When they start saying shit like, "All women want to be controlled by a man," or "All men are by nature supposed to be dominant" is when I start to worry. That is out there being said if you know where to look.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Sexually submissive, than dominant.
I suspect it has to do with some or much of eroticism and really transcendent experiences in general having to do with relinquishing control and subsuming the self to something greater.
Ego loss, to look at it from a Buddhist perspective.
Problems come up for people when they convince themselves that they're not "supposed" to feel these ways. My own take is, if everyone is an adult and it is safe, sane and consensual, whatever floats yer boat.
And yes, generalizations like "all women want...." Are full of shit.
mythology
(9,527 posts)But more seriously, that is why such things should be discussed prior to trying them.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)It's all about communication.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,237 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Every woman is exactly the same of course.
DiverDave
(4,886 posts)her satisfaction, she bit me on the shoulder.
I thought for a second "is this the kinky pleasure I've been hearing about"?
Then she bit me again, and damnit it HURT.
NO I aint into this, not even a little bit.
I had teeth marks on both shoulders, black and blue that I had to hide
until they faded.
It was summer too....
But it aint my business what people do to each other.
If they both agree, it's none of my concern. and it's no one elses either.
Perfect
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)YES INDEED
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)I won't trash.
DiverDave
(4,886 posts)hopefully this 50 bs will fade away
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I hope you saw a doctor.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)sibelian
(7,804 posts)What did you expect to happen?