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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 12:18 PM Jul 2014

l just invented the marketing plan for male contraception

An erection-contreception pill that promises to make your penis bigger. The promise is the hook. Seems men will buy anything that merely promises to make their penis bigger.

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l just invented the marketing plan for male contraception (Original Post) WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2014 OP
Dude, you are gonna be richer than god... petronius Jul 2014 #1
I can see a lot of confusion among conservatives. Turbineguy Jul 2014 #2
Bigger penis, lower IQ, grows hair, and increased aggressive tendencies! Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #3
file this under: be careful what you wish for WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2014 #4
I wish to have the patent on it. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #6
The only commercial needed for birth control is a screaming child. moriah Jul 2014 #5
In the seat behind you on a plane or the table next to you... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2014 #7
The problem isn't marketing. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #8
Your quote proves my point. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2014 #9
Men will KILL for male contraception. It doesn't need marketing johnlucas Jul 2014 #10
Agreed. I have to admit, this was inspired by... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2014 #11
Hahaha! I saw that headline & your post & I had to break it down johnlucas Jul 2014 #14
Funny how when men advocate for themselves... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2014 #15
A common human problem. People always look at things through a self-focused perspective johnlucas Jul 2014 #16
:) hey, JL, thanks for your thoughtful comments! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2014 #17
Thank you. I always try to add thoughtfulness to my comments here johnlucas Jul 2014 #18
Where can I buy this?!? U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #12
no no no! you guys haven't been paying attention... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2014 #13
I don't think it will work. Jenoch Jul 2014 #19

Turbineguy

(37,291 posts)
2. I can see a lot of confusion among conservatives.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 12:28 PM
Jul 2014

Contraception on the one hand, big dick on the other.... I suggest you check for side effects, like make sure the product causes a drop in IQ.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
6. I wish to have the patent on it.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 01:03 PM
Jul 2014

Then I will be rich enough to afford the defensive perimeter around my man castle.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
8. The problem isn't marketing.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jul 2014

If you produce one, it will fly off the shelves. You don't need marketing.

The problem is largely political.

A second longstanding misperception is that women can’t and won’t trust men for family planning....
...
To be frank, more men might do well to ask whether they should trust women to manage contraception. In the United States, with most contraception still in the hands of women, close to half of pregnancies are unintended, and the transition to thoughtful, intentional childbearing has been stalled for decades. Around a quarter of pregnancies occur in a month when a woman says she had used birth control. Like condoms, female barrier methods and even the birth control pill are quite subject to human error. In one study of 82 women, participants on average missed four or five pills per month, even when they were sent text-message reminders. It’s simply not reasonable to assume that ordinary human beings will do the same thing in the same way at the same time every day for 40 years—or every time they have sex. While longer-acting “fit and forget” contraceptives like IUDs and implants appear to radically change the equation, so would an improved array of options for the male half of the human race.
 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
9. Your quote proves my point.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jul 2014

It mentions condoms (lol), but nowhere is there the promise of harder/longer erections and a bigger penis.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
10. Men will KILL for male contraception. It doesn't need marketing
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jul 2014

Creating something to ensure from the MALE side that babies won't be made after having sex & it NOT be an invasive vasectomy???
You think that's gonna be hard to sell??

Men will pay EXTRA for that ability.
It kills the 'trap a man into pregnancy' thing that goes on with some women.
Men are NOT against male contraception IN THE LEAST.

Ironically I have talked to women about this future possibility & it sounded like the women were actually annoyed by the suggestion.
One woman told me that she wouldn't trust a man to take the pill.
I laughed. Men will never miss that opportunity. Trust me on that one.

If they ever invent a SAFE male contraceptive in pill form it'll be just like Viagra & Cialis.
They storm the doorways to get that pill.

One of the only reasons men bother with condoms in the first place is because they're not trying to accidentally have any kids.
That's what the condom was created for.
Come up with this pill & give the chance for men to permanently do away with those annoying "raincoats"???
Heh. You tell ME what's gonna happen.

Male-side birth control could possibly eliminate the need for female-side birth control.
After awhile governments will be BEGGING people to have more babies.
Bribing 'em like they're doing in Germany & Japan.

STD's will probably rise though as a side effect but that's why we need more emphasis on healthcare than war so we can solve these diseases.
John Lucas

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
11. Agreed. I have to admit, this was inspired by...
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jul 2014

a woman's comment in a discussion I was having with friends on Facebook that went something like, "if it was a man's body..."; you know the rest of the refrain.

Waits for obligatory "misogynist" comment.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
14. Hahaha! I saw that headline & your post & I had to break it down
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 02:54 PM
Jul 2014

Men & women are DIFFERENT. That's the facts.
We DO have more similarities than we want to admit but there are areas where we are almost two different species trying to act like one.

If it was a man's body, he'd take the doggone pill 'cause he don't want no babies.
Not until he's ready to anyway.

A pill like that will change the entire way society operates just like any major technology introduction.
Scientists worked from the easier side (human beings always want to do what's easiest. path of least resistance.) stopping a female's egg over a male's sperm.
But let them create a guaranteed male temporary contraceptive...
It'll be like the transition from silent film & talkies. Like the transition from B&W to color TV.
Like the transition from the old stove to microwave ovens.
Like from window box fans to AC.

Nobody's going back to the old way after that.

If you added in the penis growth thing, you might get riots & stampedes!
Just the male contraceptive will be enough, no need for overkill. Hahahahahaha!
John Lucas

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
15. Funny how when men advocate for themselves...
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 03:06 PM
Jul 2014

a whole different narrative emerges than when women usurp the topic of male contraception from a male's point of view.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
16. A common human problem. People always look at things through a self-focused perspective
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:03 PM
Jul 2014

A person who can handle the heat is mystified at the other saying "It's hot!".
A person who is tall is dumbstruck at the complaints of the short.
A person who is good at operating computers cannot identify with those who don't understand the purpose of anti-virus software.
A person who is thin cannot wrap his/her mind around the daily challenges of the fat (even walking is done differently by the physics of it all).
A person who never gets bitten by bugs is stupefied at the person constantly running away or shooing away those insects.
A suburbian White person is at a loss to identify with the plights of ghetto-locked Blacks & Browns.
A man is totally in the wilderness when it comes to understanding what pregnancy puts women through.

AND a woman is lost in the woods trying to understand male views on male contraception.

They speak from a woman's point of view with the inherent biological biases that lead to that view.
Women don't have penises & all they're doing is speaking from a vagina's perspective.
You can't be mad at 'em, that's the starting vantage point they have.
What other perspective do you EXPECT them to have?
They don't have male plumbing. They don't really understand male plumbing.
They don't understand the male point of view that inherently comes from that male plumbing.
They CAN'T understand.
They have nothing to reference from themselves just like men have nothing to reference from themselves on pregnancy.

Men can make babies ALL OF THEIR LIFE.
There is no menopause with men. We don't have that extra biological clock.
The only biological clock we have is the death clock inherent to us all.

There's a story about a man who had his FIRST child at the age of 94 & SECOND at the age of 96!!
Ramjit Raghav: World's oldest dad does it again at 96 (well, he does have sex three times a night!)

And there's the story of late actor Tony Randall (Felix from The Odd Couple) who had his FIRST child at age 77.
Tony Randall, father of two

So we have the option to WAIT. Not forever of course. That biological clock of death still ticks.
But we don't have that other more famous biological clock to worry about.
We just have to find someone willing enough to make babies with us.

Women ask me all the time in public "You got any kids?".
Men have never asked me this question & WOULD never ask me this question unless we were specifically having a conversation about kids. Like say I was talking a group of fathers or something.
But women ask this all the time.

Why?
My presumption is that a woman HAS to think about whether she will have kids or not & do it early on.
She does NOT have the option to wait like we do.
If she's gonna become a career woman over a housewife she has to think about how kids factor or DON'T factor into that lifestyle.
It HAS to be on her mind one way or another because of menopause.

Biologically her teens & 20s are the prime age ranges of successfully having children.
It starts getting tricky in the 30s much more so in the 40s.
Some women can go into their 50s & even 60s before the clock is up but women can't be sure if they're gonna be one of those kinds of women.
Some women go into menopause in their 30s.
So kids have to be on women's brains in some fashion or another.
Biologically they're built to be childbearers.

And when women talk about contraception this type of point of view is where they will tend to focus.
Women in pregnancy have to worry about loss of career advancement and/or support for the baby to come.
Pregnancy wholesale changes a woman's physicality & mentality.
They lose mobility more & more each month.
In the wild that would make them easy prey without a support group to watch out for them.

Childmaking or the prevention of childmaking is ALWAYS on a woman's mind. CONSTANTLY.
Because it HAS to be.
So when women throw the charge of "If it was a man's body"" they're coming from the anxious paranoid point of view that is a natural result of what I explained above.
If men fail to use the pill, we're pregnant & now what do we do?!

But unfortunately they don't consider the male point of view.
A kid is a child support payment. A kid is a loss of personal freedom.
A kid can be an unintended attachment to a woman he might not be wanting to attach TO.
They just wanna have sex!
Even though the primary purpose of sex IS making babies, the secondary benefits (sensual pleasure & such) are so fun that if men could get that without having to worry about a baby coming out, they would jump on it.

Men AND women hate condoms. They suck! Skin on skin feels GOOD!
It's part of the reason why men want to get into steady relationships in the first place.
They want to be able to have sex with a woman AND NOT WORRY about STDs getting in the way.

Men invented the condom to prevent babymaking.
And also tried to come up with the less-than-effective pull out method to do the same (among other tactics).
Men want the ability to plan their children too.
So WHEN he's ready to make those child support payments, lose his personal freedom, & attach to the woman carrying their baby, he can make a reasoned decision instead of being shotgunned into it or coerced into it or stumbling into it.

In fact I'll tell you that MEN will be at the FOREFRONT of birth control if that pill ever comes out.
They won't have to ask & trust women to do it anymore.
They can just be on the pill & sex away without worry of a baby coming into the mix unplanned.
The pill would actually give them MORE freedom.

Men have waited for this since the beginning of time.
Women have no idea.
John Lucas

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
18. Thank you. I always try to add thoughtfulness to my comments here
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jul 2014

You know, I just like give people something to think on that they might not have considered.
A unique point of view.

Thank you for your compliments.
John Lucas

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
13. no no no! you guys haven't been paying attention...
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 02:54 PM
Jul 2014

If it was a man's body, something something end of discussion.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
19. I don't think it will work.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jul 2014

I would bet the vast majority of all males in the U.S. have never purchased nor ingested a pill that promises to enlarge the male genitalia.

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