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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:28 PM Jul 2014

Video of Israelis mocking the deaths of Palestinian children

"There's no school tomorrow; there's no children left in Gaza. Oleh!"

http://palsolidarity.org/2014/07/video-israelis-in-tel-aviv-chanting-theres-no-school-tomorrow-theres-no-children-left-in-gaza-oleh/

Video: Israelis in Tel Aviv chanting, “There’s no school tomorrow, there’s no children left in Gaza! Oleh!”
in Reports, Video July 29, 2014

29th July 2014 | International Solidarity Movement | Tel Aviv, Occupied Palestine

Israelis in Tel Aviv, on 26.7.2014, the 19th day of Israel’s massacres in Gaza, cheer the genocide on: “There’s no school tomorrow, there’s no children left there [in Gaza]! Oleh!”



Every evening, in Tel Aviv, right wing marchers flood the streets, waving Israeli flags and chanting hate-slogans, such as the most common, “death to the Arabs” and many others. Often, these are counter-protests to the anti-war demonstrations that have begun since Israel’s latest onslaught on the Gaza strip, but these are also independent initiatives, which aim to encourage the State of Israel to continue the bombardment with full force.

Israeli activists who oppose the war have become the victims of these rallies, as they turn into full-fledged riots. One of the activists testified that after the rally in the video, “a few of them started kicking and throwing punches, someone tried to beat us with a flag stick, and one rioter in an IDF uniform pepper sprayed me in the face…friends who stayed in the area told me that the cops shook the soldier’s hand.”

The day of this particular rally, OCHA reported: Approximately, 1000 Palestinians have been bombed to death, over 200 of them children. Over 6200 have been injured, 2000 of them children. Over 215,000 displaced people- schools have turned into refugee camps. 130 schools have been bombed.

This is Israel’s third such operation on the Gaza Strip in the past 6 years, which it besieges from land, air and sea. Gaza is 360 km² , about twice the size of Washington DC. It is one of the most crowded places in the world, with a population density of 4,505 persons per square km. 52% of its population are children.
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Video of Israelis mocking the deaths of Palestinian children (Original Post) Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 OP
Sickening darkangel218 Jul 2014 #1
Sickening but unsurprising. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #2
Sick, homicidal, racist maniacs. stranger81 Jul 2014 #3
I can't translate jollyreaper2112 Jul 2014 #4
found this riverwalker Jul 2014 #23
thanks jollyreaper2112 Jul 2014 #55
maybe this will help riverwalker Jul 2014 #60
thanks jollyreaper2112 Jul 2014 #61
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #5
Why, hello there! Taking a break from class, are we? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #14
there and your ... I smell TEABAGGER! napkinz Jul 2014 #16
Those children definitely deserved to die for that Hugabear Jul 2014 #8
Is English gaspee Jul 2014 #9
are you all there? snooper2 Jul 2014 #12
how are those signs working out for you? napkinz Jul 2014 #15
They can't spell grade school words. SummerSnow Jul 2014 #29
They're working people LittleGirl Jul 2014 #42
dictionary noiretextatique Jul 2014 #44
They have a tv, no books in the house. eom LittleGirl Jul 2014 #63
Could be they became zombies and came back in 2008 SummerSnow Jul 2014 #45
Liberials? That's a new one to me War Horse Jul 2014 #43
Terrible and ugly people think and say that. JaydenD Jul 2014 #6
knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #10
Thank God no Americans do crap like that. Except Republicans of course. denverbill Jul 2014 #11
They wanted to conflate religion with land. Well, that's not even a religion anymore, IMO. randome Jul 2014 #13
They have completely lost their humanity Marrah_G Jul 2014 #17
Sadly, that is all too human behaviour. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #41
Publishing Video of Semites will get you accused of being anti-Semite, sure as rain. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #18
Sicking but not surprising. iandhr Jul 2014 #19
It's not human nature to want to see your enemies' children suffer. randome Jul 2014 #20
"It's human nature to want to see your enemies suffer" whathehell Jul 2014 #22
Celebrating the mass death of children geek tragedy Jul 2014 #25
Children are not their enemy. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #28
I don't disagree. iandhr Jul 2014 #33
Yes I suppose so. Just sad. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #35
I don't agree with that. I don't want to see anyone suffer, well except for Dick Cheney and his sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #46
I disagree. SamKnause Jul 2014 #64
OMG.. whathehell Jul 2014 #21
Both sides are right, both sides are wrong. hedgehog Jul 2014 #24
Moral equivalency doesn't work when a party Skidmore Jul 2014 #31
Excuse me but how do the children whose deaths they are mocking equal their 'side'? sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #48
Horrid SummerSnow Jul 2014 #26
Gaza residents celebrate at news of missing Israeli teens oberliner Jul 2014 #27
I expect that kind of response from a caged and frightened sadoldgirl Jul 2014 #34
Palestinians are just as civilized as Israelis oberliner Jul 2014 #38
i think this is actually them celebrating the "Arab Idol" Winner JI7 Jul 2014 #39
That's different. Why I'm not sure but it is, as are any of the many such celebrations of acts of TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #40
i think because they are specifically celebrating the dead kids rather than JI7 Jul 2014 #57
so glad our taxes d_b Jul 2014 #30
Please don't refer to Israelis of any stripe War Horse Jul 2014 #47
This video should be played sadoldgirl Jul 2014 #32
+100 n/t whathehell Jul 2014 #51
These people are monsters. ellie Jul 2014 #36
They demonstrate a cruelty we find difficult to comprehend Hulk Jul 2014 #37
Leon Uris speculated in THE HAJ that the hot desert land of Palestine/Israel itself made 1monster Jul 2014 #49
Comrade, did you notice that the translation thingy does not work? countryjake Jul 2014 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #52
Agreed, but do we have to support them financially? n/t sadoldgirl Jul 2014 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #59
Psychopathic human garbage. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #53
they are EMBOLDENED by support from the U.S. and other countries.. they'd be singing a different secondwind Jul 2014 #54
They are restrained by said support. What you think of as cute and smart has long been TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #62
Not unlike how many Americans cheered our version of Shock & Awe. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #58
why is the crowd full of men only ? i can't see any females there JI7 Jul 2014 #65

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
3. Sick, homicidal, racist maniacs.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:33 PM
Jul 2014

Who we're funding. And will continue to fund. Forever and ever, until the last Palestinian is dead or banished from the land they were born in.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
23. found this
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 02:44 PM
Jul 2014

The words of the repulsive song have been translated for The Electronic Intifada by Dena Shunra:
"The mob also incites directly against Ahmed Tibi and Haneen Zoabi, two prominent Palestinian citizens of Israel who are members of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament."

Tibi – Ahmed Tibi
I wanted you to know
The next kid to be hurt will be your kid
I hate Tibi
I hate Tibi the terrorist.
Tibi – is dead!
Tibi – is dead!
Tibi – is dead!

Tibi is a terrorist.
Tibi is a terrorist.
Tibi is a terrorist.

They’ll take their papers away.
They’ll take their papers away.
They’ll take their papers away.
Olé, olé, olé-olé-olé
In Gaza there’s no studying
No children are left there,
Olé, olé, olé-olé-olé,

[Three lines, not entirely clear]

Who is getting nervous, I hear?
Zoabi, this here is the Land of Israel
This here is the Land of Israel, Zoabi
This here is the Land of the Jews
I hate you, I do, Zoabi
I hate all the Arabs.
Oh-oh-oh-oh
Gaza is a graveyard
Gaza is a graveyard
Gaza is a graveyard
Gaza is a graveyard

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
55. thanks
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:24 PM
Jul 2014

But what I'm looking for is an independent source, just to confirm what we're seeing. There's a lot of bullshit flying around right now and I don't want to be taken in by a con.

Have we confirmed the contents?

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
60. maybe this will help
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jul 2014
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/gaza-graveyard-sing-joyful-israeli-youths

The video of the 26 July event in Tel Aviv was published by Israeli journalist Haim Har-Zahav.


I looked for his original posting of the video on his twitter feed, found it, but it's in hebrew.

Haim Har-Zahav @haimhz · Jul 27

קצת תרבות: קליפ השירים הגדולים של הפגנת הימין מאתמול, כולל הלהיט החדש "בעזה אין לימודים/ לא נשארו שם ילדים"
@ha_makom

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
61. thanks
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:00 PM
Jul 2014

Thanks. Looks like it's true. I haven't seen any debunkings yet. Granted, a source like electric intifada would be as questionable as the Jerusalem post. Alex Jones will have factual material on his site from time to time but you have to verify it somewhere else before you can take it seriously.

How representative are these nutters?

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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
7. Why, hello there! Taking a break from class, are we?
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/08/14/israel-pay-students-propaganda_n_3755782.html

Israel To Pay Students For Pro-Israeli Social Media Propaganda

The Huffington Post UK | By Lucy Sherriff
Email
Posted: 14/08/2013 16:33 BST Updated: 14/08/2013 16:46 BST
Israel has announced it will pay university students to circulate pro-Israeli information on social media networks, without having to identify themselves as working for the government.

The move was publicised in a statement from Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office, the Associated Press reported. Students will receive scholarships to "engage international audiences online" and combat anti-Semitism and calls to boycott Israel, it was alleged.

In 2012, a Palestinian-run blog reported similar arrangements between the National Union of Israeli Students and the Israeli government. Students would be paid $2,000 to post pro-Israel messages online for five hours a week.

According to Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz, the most recent proposition is being spearheaded by Danny Seaman, who was slammed by the media for writing anti-Muslim messages on Facebook.

Students will be organised into units at each university, with a chief co-ordinator who receives a full scholarship, three desk co-ordinators for language, graphics and research who receive lesser scholarships and students termed “activists” who will receive a “minimal scholarship”, the Independent reported.

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gaspee

(3,231 posts)
9. Is English
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jul 2014

Not your native language? There is a place - their is possessive. Easiest way I can think of to explain it. I completely understand the mistake is you are not a native speaker - if you are a native speaker, perhaps you should review some third grade grammar.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
42. They're working people
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:25 PM
Jul 2014

they work with their hands not their brain. They don't read much anymore so don't know how to spell anything, even easy words. Nothing looks familiar. It's ebonics for spelling. Medecine is "said" that way...med - e cine. so that's why he spelled it that way.

I know those people. I used to work with them at the factories back in the 70s. I thought they all died off by now.

 

JaydenD

(294 posts)
6. Terrible and ugly people think and say that.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jul 2014

These are human garbage, twisted rotted souls to talk about kids like that, and mean it.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
11. Thank God no Americans do crap like that. Except Republicans of course.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jul 2014

I guess right-wingers are the same the world over. From the gun-toting militias wanting to shoot kids in Texas to the right-wing Jews in Israel wanting to kill Palestinian kids to the right-wing Germans in the 1930's wanting to exterminate the Jews.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. They wanted to conflate religion with land. Well, that's not even a religion anymore, IMO.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jul 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
18. Publishing Video of Semites will get you accused of being anti-Semite, sure as rain.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jul 2014

These people are exactly like the fanatics shown in video endlessly in American media on the other side, extremists versus extremist.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. It's not human nature to want to see your enemies' children suffer.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jul 2014

That's simply inhuman.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
25. Celebrating the mass death of children
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 02:49 PM
Jul 2014

is not a normal incident of war, but rather a deep, pathological, eliminationist hatred.

These are the kinds of people who commit genocide.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
46. I don't agree with that. I don't want to see anyone suffer, well except for Dick Cheney and his
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:39 PM
Jul 2014

maniacal, torturing, murderous cohorts. But I don't want them to die, I am opposed to the DP, even for monsters like that. I want them to lose everything they were so willing to kill and torture for and to spend the rest of their miserable lives behind bars without all the luxuries they spilled so much blood in order to obtain.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
64. I disagree.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 10:55 PM
Jul 2014

I do not want to see any human suffer.

I do not want to see any human executed.

I do not want to see any human tortured.

I do not want to see a single bomb dropped.

I do not want to witness a single gunshot.

I do not understand the mindset of enjoying the suffering others.

I assure you I am human and this is not in my nature.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
48. Excuse me but how do the children whose deaths they are mocking equal their 'side'?
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jul 2014

I am beginning to give the Palestinian people who have apparently been living with this vicious hatred for decades, way more credit for their restraint than I realized was needed. I would like to say that I would be as restrained as they have been, but if someone mocked the death of my child like that, there is no way I can predict my reaction. Because I've never seen anything like that before.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. Gaza residents celebrate at news of missing Israeli teens
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jul 2014

Residents of Gaza have celebrated the presumed kidnapping of three Israeli teens who disappeared while hitchhiking in the West Bank, while Hamas lashed out at the Palestinian Authority for cooperating with Israel to find the youths.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4530227,00.html

Video at link.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
34. I expect that kind of response from a caged and frightened
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:03 PM
Jul 2014

people, but not from a country, which calls itself civilized.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
38. Palestinians are just as civilized as Israelis
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:05 PM
Jul 2014

It's insulting to suggest otherwise in my opinion.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
40. That's different. Why I'm not sure but it is, as are any of the many such celebrations of acts of
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jul 2014

terror and destruction.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
57. i think because they are specifically celebrating the dead kids rather than
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:31 PM
Jul 2014

something like Hamas. if they had said similar and mentioned how hamas or terrorists were being destroyed/killed etc it wouldn't ocme off as bad.

War Horse

(931 posts)
47. Please don't refer to Israelis of any stripe
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:40 PM
Jul 2014

as Nazis. It's just so counterproductive to any kind of rational debate. I get the anger, I really do. And I get the sentiment behind it as well. But such rhetoric doesn't add anything useful at all. There should be more than enough other descriptions available.

Just a friendly request.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
32. This video should be played
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:00 PM
Jul 2014

several times to our assembled Congress. Then perhaps they could try to explain why our tax money still supports this disgusting group (Netanyahu lovers) with money as well as weapons! I have been reading that the money goes to Israel as part of the Egyptian/Israel peace agreement, but that should not continue eternally. This video is just one reason why.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
37. They demonstrate a cruelty we find difficult to comprehend
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:04 PM
Jul 2014

I am sick of fundamentalist ANYTHING...Jews, Muslims, Christians, teabaggers....they are all cancers to a civilized society. Extremists. Haters. Unyielding, ignorant scourge to a civilized population.

I've seen several videos of predominately young Jews acting like these cold-hearted thugs. Mob-mentality animals that only create more hatred and anger. Shame on them all, and I hope karma comes back to give them their just deserve.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
49. Leon Uris speculated in THE HAJ that the hot desert land of Palestine/Israel itself made
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:43 PM
Jul 2014

the Arabs/Palestinians stark staring crazy (You'd have to read the book. It was one of his most disturbing.)

Over the years, on ocassion, I've thought that perhaps Uris was right, because that insanity seems to have spread to the Israelis too.

But I doubt it. Hate breeds hate. And mutates into horrifying evil. Horrifying evil breeds hate... ad nauseum, ad infinitum...

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
50. Comrade, did you notice that the translation thingy does not work?
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 03:44 PM
Jul 2014

That link found on the video 'Turn on "captions" for English subtitles' is worthless.


Here's a picture of one of the Israeli protesters who was attacked by fascist goons the night of that video:



from Mori Rothman-Zecher's Twitter page @ TheLefternWall in Tel Aviv

"Here, in Israel, antiwar protests have been met w fascist street gangs, ready to attack. It sounds like an embellishment, but it’s not"

https://twitter.com/TheLefternWall


And another photo from that demo:



from Elizabeth Tsurkov's Twitter page @ Elizrael in Tel Aviv

"Israelis barge into @ btselem's office & attack them for publishing names of Palestinians killed by IDF in Gaza"
https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/494037587514769408

https://twitter.com/Elizrael


Also found on Elizabeth's Twitter page, ten minutes ago:

https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/494203562461642752

1-minute time lapse of an entire neighborhood being reduced to rubble.






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secondwind

(16,903 posts)
54. they are EMBOLDENED by support from the U.S. and other countries.. they'd be singing a different
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jul 2014

tune if they had to face Hamas alone

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
62. They are restrained by said support. What you think of as cute and smart has long been
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:20 PM
Jul 2014

a driving concern but even though your calculus does not account for the multiple attacks from combined Arab forces and decades of terror attacks from kindly folks to entirely dissimilar to and including Hamas, it would seem crystal clear the only option that gives you a puncher's chance at survival would be to decimate as much opposition capacity and infrastructure as possible and build up the nuclear and ballistic missile programs, making an attack a suicide mission no matter from where it is launched.

This isn't some academic and far fetched notion, these people fought in and remember these wars and/or have folks and friends who do. Even more have first hand recollection of a not an insignificant amount of deadly terror attacks. Shit, they deal with them still.

It doesn't take a wild imagination to get the idea that the only peace will be that of death and honestly I think that is what folks that say stuff like this must want because that side of the ledger gets very little accounting from them to the point that it has to be willful, especially considering the absolute dominance over rule by very regressive and highly repressive in nations that are either currently in "sworn enemy"/do not acknowledge your right to exist and those that have joined in before and are no longer under moderate management that allowed some positive movement.

There is simply no basis for the proposition that if Israel would just play nice that it would be fine and there would be peace in the middle east (which is false, but would allow more focus on the sectarian violence).
Instead it is just an article of faith that when pressed and reminded of history in living memory, ever comes back to the existence of Israel at all. You cannot be even tolerant of Israel's existence and fail to account for proven and proudly asserted threats in good faith.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
58. Not unlike how many Americans cheered our version of Shock & Awe.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jul 2014

All protecting Western Civilization(?) indeed.

"Patriotism is the passion of fools and the most foolish of passions." Arthur Schopenhauer

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