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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:10 PM Jul 2014

CNN's S.E. Cupp: I’m a ‘Better’ Atheist Than Bill Maher

CNN’s S.E. Cupp has never been shy about her atheism, even if it does make her stand out in the conservative media world. But in a new online video for Crossfire the pundit makes the claim that conservative atheists are actually “better” than liberal ones, and she uses Bill Maher as her prime example.

“I don’t believe in God, but I’m not mad at him,” Cupp says at the top of the video, immediately contradicting herself. She explains that she became an atheist because she’s not a “joiner” and didn’t want to be part of a “club or group.” She says she believes that atheists are perpetuating the idea that they are “somehow disenfranchised or left out of the political process,” but that has not been her experience as a conservative.

Cupp says she does not believe the “myth” that conservatism is “hostile” to atheism. “I’m a conservative atheist and I’ve felt very welcome by this party,” she says of Republicans. “In fact, I’d go so far as to say conservatism is far more intellectually honest and respectful of atheism than liberalism has been.” While conservatives “tolerate” and “respect” both atheists and religious people, Cupp says liberals embrace a “militant hostility” towards religion. Which brings her to Bill Maher.

“Bill Maher thinks 95% of the world has a neurological disorder,” she says. “I don’t think you’d find that on the right. For that reason — I’ll say it — I think our atheists are better than yours.” It’s only a matter of time before Maher responds to those fighting words. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/s-e-cupp-im-a-better-atheist-than-bill-maher/

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CNN's S.E. Cupp: I’m a ‘Better’ Atheist Than Bill Maher (Original Post) big_dog Jul 2014 OP
But she's idiot, and a paid to be an idiot, so nothing she says really matters. nt onehandle Jul 2014 #1
sippy cupp, are you channeling betty bowers? trust me, she does a far better job than you. niyad Jul 2014 #2
Sippy Cupp!!! big_dog Jul 2014 #8
So ... other atheists are "mad" at the god they don't believe in? DirkGently Jul 2014 #3
then why is she "joining" the Republicans....if she is not a joiner as she claims... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #4
Bill Maher is a questionable choice of representatives for the left, considering that he has... JVS Jul 2014 #5
I don't believe in flying dogs, Go Vols Jul 2014 #6
Damn, it really sucks when a fucking conservative is right CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #7
and there are how many of those? niyad Jul 2014 #9
She's not right. What she says is a load of bollocks. I can't believe you fell for it muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #21
She is a fucking idiot Tom Ripley Jul 2014 #10
Sippy Cupp is not an atheist, but she plays one on TV. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #11
Ayn Rand was a conservative atheist, too. Terra Alta Jul 2014 #12
Huh???? CherokeeDem Jul 2014 #13
SE F'Dupp is no atheist ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2014 #14
Only a matter of time till he responds? Chiyo-chichi Jul 2014 #15
She is nothing but a paid mediawhore. Dawson Leery Jul 2014 #16
As long as they spout all the other right wing bullshit Still Sensible Jul 2014 #17
IDK about being "better", Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #18
She has said before that she's an atheist searching for god. Iron Man Jul 2014 #19
Yup sakabatou Jul 2014 #20
The only thing she has working for her is B Calm Jul 2014 #22
She's a better Fake Atheist. nt BootinUp Jul 2014 #23
How welcome can she feel when Shankapotomus Jul 2014 #24

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
3. So ... other atheists are "mad" at the god they don't believe in?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:19 PM
Jul 2014

Sounds like she's trying to be the conservative "token" atheist in the mold of conservative anti-feminist women or anti-minority minorities.
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
4. then why is she "joining" the Republicans....if she is not a joiner as she claims...
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:19 PM
Jul 2014

and how does one be a "better atheist" than someone else. "I don't believe in God better than you!" What an idiot!

JVS

(61,935 posts)
5. Bill Maher is a questionable choice of representatives for the left, considering that he has...
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:20 PM
Jul 2014

usually identified as libertarian.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
7. Damn, it really sucks when a fucking conservative is right
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jul 2014

militant atheists suck. I am an atheist like her. I don't give a fuck if others have those beliefs. Militant anti-theists hurt the cause.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
21. She's not right. What she says is a load of bollocks. I can't believe you fell for it
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 05:19 AM
Jul 2014
Cupp says she does not believe the “myth” that conservatism is “hostile” to atheism. “I’m a conservative atheist and I’ve felt very welcome by this party,” she says of Republicans. “In fact, I’d go so far as to say conservatism is far more intellectually honest and respectful of atheism than liberalism has been.” While conservatives “tolerate” and “respect” both atheists and religious people, Cupp says liberals embrace a “militant hostility” towards religion


Well, we can go back to GHW Bush saying he didn't think atheists should be counted as American citizens. Or we can just look at a poll, and see that Republicans do indeed have something against atheists (and Muslims), while Democrats are more accepting. Liberals do not 'embrace a “militant hostility” towards religion'. That's an idiotic strawman.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/16/republicans-really-dont-like-atheists-and-muslims/

So, why do you think 'militant atheists suck', while you think you're like her - an atheist who lies for her living? Why would you possibly identify with her?
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
11. Sippy Cupp is not an atheist, but she plays one on TV.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:36 PM
Jul 2014

She doesn't understand the meaning of the word.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
12. Ayn Rand was a conservative atheist, too.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jul 2014

And she also thought she was better than anyone else. Maybe Sippy Cup is trying to fashion herself after Rand?

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
13. Huh????
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:38 PM
Jul 2014
I don’t believe in God, but I’m not mad at him

Uh... don't have words for this incredibly dense person...

No words.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
16. She is nothing but a paid mediawhore.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:53 PM
Jul 2014

She claims to be an "athiest" who wants to find God. She is backed by the right to make athiests look bad.
With that said, it is time to bring back the unrec feature.

Still Sensible

(2,870 posts)
17. As long as they spout all the other right wing bullshit
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:11 PM
Jul 2014

from the Kool-Aid manual, and don't challenge the orthodoxy, they are accepted by the gop. Pretty simple.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
18. IDK about being "better",
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:57 PM
Jul 2014

but as many differences as I have with her, one thing I will say is that at least S.E. Cupp isn't as in-your-face about her Atheism as Maher is. Like someone said earlier, Maher has been pretty militant about his beliefs--so much that he talks about all of religion as non-sense and basically something that is incapable of doing any good whatsoever. I know he is a comedian, but it comes across more as self-righteousness rather than comedy. Why not believe what you believe, and respect the spirituality of others?

 

Iron Man

(183 posts)
19. She has said before that she's an atheist searching for god.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:10 AM
Jul 2014

He doesn't even know what it means to be an atheist.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
24. How welcome can she feel when
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 05:37 AM
Jul 2014

the republican's last vice-presidential nominee, Paul Ryan, a fan of Ayn Rand, denied her based specifically on her Atheism? Obviously, he felt he wouldn't be elected if he didn't distance himself from her Atheism.

"I reject her philosophy... It’s an atheist philosophy." -Paul Ryan

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