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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:38 AM Jul 2014

Utah language school instructor fired for post about homophones

Source: Salt Lake Tribune

... When the social-media specialist for a private Provo-based English language learning center wrote a blog explaining homophones, he was let go for creating the perception that the school promoted a gay agenda.

Tim Torkildson says after he wrote the blog on the website of his employer, Nomen Global Language Center, his boss and Nomen owner Clarke Woodger, called him into his office and told him he was fired.

As Torkildson tells it, Woodger said he could not trust him and that the blog about homophones was the last straw.

"Now our school is going to be associated with homosexuality," Woodger complained, according to Torkildson, who posted the exchange on his Facebook page.

Read more: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/58236366-90/says-english-homophones-language.html.csp

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Utah language school instructor fired for post about homophones (Original Post) Newsjock Jul 2014 OP
The link looks like a newspaper but surely this is Onion et al.? nt whatthehey Jul 2014 #1
So this is why right-wingers mix up "their", "they're", and "there". surrealAmerican Jul 2014 #2
DUzy!!! Scuba Jul 2014 #15
Yeah, only right-wingers make those mistakes. Sure. uh huh. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #17
It was a joke. You're right, that is an alarmingly common error. surrealAmerican Jul 2014 #18
Sadly, no. redqueen Jul 2014 #36
Oh, good grief! CrispyQ Jul 2014 #3
This has got to be satire. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #4
This is a joke, right? Coventina Jul 2014 #5
Not necessarily. Remember when a D.C. mayor's aide who was forced to tblue37 Aug 2014 #54
If this is true Faux pas Jul 2014 #6
This is beyond pathetic. 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #7
Fear of Homophones explains so much about right wingers language usage Bettie Jul 2014 #8
Yes, he's obviously a homophonic. kentauros Jul 2014 #40
My god, does the stupid really run that deep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #9
It's reminiscent of the flap over the guy cloudbase Jul 2014 #10
That was exactly Lindsay Jul 2014 #19
It's a new world where a word means what you think it means... 8_Point Jul 2014 #37
See my post #54 above. nt tblue37 Aug 2014 #55
homogeneous mixtures, a homolog set of chromosomes, homomorphic algebraic structures... DetlefK Jul 2014 #11
Next they will want to ban homogenized milk! n/t Tanuki Jul 2014 #14
And homo sapiens. eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2014 #21
... napkinz Jul 2014 #35
LOL - thanks! BlueMTexpat Jul 2014 #39
To be perfectly honest, kentauros Jul 2014 #41
Not a satire. Tim Torkildson is a frequent contributor to MineralMan Jul 2014 #12
OMG. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #29
I don't think I would want... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #32
One would need a bathyscaphe to plumb the depths of such stupidity. Aristus Jul 2014 #13
If he wrote about HOMOPHOBES I could get it alp227 Jul 2014 #16
Wow. Aerows Jul 2014 #20
Apple had the largest ever contingent at SF Pride this year dickthegrouch Jul 2014 #22
The stoopid is like an advancing glacier. hifiguy Jul 2014 #23
Only if it's written by the Ministry of Information, kentauros Jul 2014 #42
I was hoping to see that this was from the Onion, but, sadly, it is not. how in the HELL can this niyad Jul 2014 #24
My first thought about this story, and owner, kentauros Jul 2014 #43
I think all the students should demand their money back. niyad Jul 2014 #25
*headdesk* n/t X_Digger Jul 2014 #26
He may have been Turbineguy Jul 2014 #27
I hear his sister was a thespian who matriculated at Vassar. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #44
Yet another Turbineguy Jul 2014 #46
Damn thespians infect everyone with their verve and spunk. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #47
Imagine if he had used the word "niggardly?" immoderate Jul 2014 #28
Since that word is archaic, he'd get a well-deserved stinky side-eye. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #34
Archaic? Why did nobody tell the Dictionary people? immoderate Jul 2014 #38
So, he followed the standards and got fired anyway. knitter4democracy Jul 2014 #30
Fools. Nothing but fools. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #31
... redqueen Jul 2014 #33
I take it they only allow boys in school plays... JHB Jul 2014 #45
Oh, THAT was gooood. hifiguy Jul 2014 #49
Homophonehome betsuni Jul 2014 #48
It's just another word for "homonym." Brigid Jul 2014 #50
Well, it's a synonym. OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #51
Don't forget those studying pedagogy. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2014 #52
I'm sure in Utah it is not PC to study Polygonomy in Econ class. JEB Jul 2014 #53
Somewhere, in some dimension there has to be a race of dangerously intelligent beings TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #56
I'm pretty sure it's stuff like the article that keeps other intelliget life from coming here. ladyVet Aug 2014 #57

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
2. So this is why right-wingers mix up "their", "they're", and "there".
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:43 AM
Jul 2014

It's because homophones are part of the "gay agenda". It all makes sense now.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
17. Yeah, only right-wingers make those mistakes. Sure. uh huh.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jul 2014

I see those and all the related errors on DU every single day.

I have decided to never correct any of them and instead to judge them silently as either lazy or uneducated.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
18. It was a joke. You're right, that is an alarmingly common error.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jul 2014

I've even seen it in print in newspapers and magazines that ought to have actual copy editors.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
36. Sadly, no.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jul 2014

I remember a time on DU when lack of proficiency in grammar, spelling, and usage were often cited as reasons to possibly be suspicious of one's political leanings. That hasnt been the case in a long time.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
3. Oh, good grief!
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jul 2014

hom·o·phone (hm-fn, hm-)
n.
One of two or more words, such as night and knight, that are pronounced the same but differ in meaning, origin, and sometimes spelling.
ho·mopho·nous (h-mf-ns) adj.


Nomen is Utah’s largest private English as a Second Language school and caters mostly to foreign students seeking admission to U.S. colleges and universities. Woodger says his school has taught 6,500 students from 58 countries during the past 15 years. Most of them, he says, are at basic levels of English and are not ready for the more complicated concepts such as homophones.


Complicated concept? What a fuckhead.

tblue37

(65,334 posts)
54. Not necessarily. Remember when a D.C. mayor's aide who was forced to
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:36 AM
Aug 2014

resign over the word "niggardly"?


David Howard, an aide to Washington, D.C., Mayor Anthony A. Williams, used the word "niggardly" in a discussion with two of his city employees. While his real crime was trying to shoehorn a ten-dollar word into a two-dollar conversation, D.C. employees objected to the use of "niggardly" due to its "racial overtones."

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/3-racist-incidents-that-werent-actually-racist/#ixzz397FAV1s6

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
7. This is beyond pathetic.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:52 AM
Jul 2014

Biology classes will be next - imagine the freak out over the terms Homo sapiens sapiens and the predecessor Homo erectus.

As observed by someone posting in the Salt Lake Tribune original article, what about stores selling homogenized milk?

cloudbase

(5,513 posts)
10. It's reminiscent of the flap over the guy
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:02 PM - Edit history (1)

who used the word niggardly.

This one is more gooder, though.

 

8_Point

(32 posts)
37. It's a new world where a word means what you think it means...
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jul 2014

.. dictionary be damned because of feels.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
11. homogeneous mixtures, a homolog set of chromosomes, homomorphic algebraic structures...
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jul 2014

They are all part of the gay agenda!

And I know what their next step is!!!!!!!!!!! They want to turn our home into homo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
12. Not a satire. Tim Torkildson is a frequent contributor to
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:03 AM
Jul 2014

The St. Paul Pioneer Press's Bulletin Board feature, which prints stories from readers. He's an interesting guy, who was once a clown for Barnum & Bailey and who also writes very interestingly about his own life.

I had to read it two times because it was almost too ridiculous to be believed.

dickthegrouch

(3,172 posts)
22. Apple had the largest ever contingent at SF Pride this year
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:48 AM
Jul 2014

There were reportedly over 4000 employees and friends marching in the Apple Computer contingent at this years San Francisco Pride Parade. It was by far the largest group I've ever seen.

Now I know why I like my ihomoPhone so much

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
23. The stoopid is like an advancing glacier.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jul 2014

It gets thicker and more destructive by the hour.

This may represent something of a high-water mark in Idiot America, though. Don't these cretins have a goddamn dictionary?

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
42. Only if it's written by the Ministry of Information,
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jul 2014

aka, Conservapedia, where rewriting reality is a requirement. (That's the Wikipedia page about Conservapedia; I will not link directly to them.)

niyad

(113,262 posts)
24. I was hoping to see that this was from the Onion, but, sadly, it is not. how in the HELL can this
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jul 2014

stupidity operate in something that is supposed to be a LANGUAGE center????

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
43. My first thought about this story, and owner,
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 05:29 PM
Jul 2014

is that it's a "hobby business." I got the impression that he doesn't take his business all that seriously. Because if he did, he'd be fully educated in the English language, as well as whatever other languages necessary to teach non-speakers.

niyad

(113,262 posts)
25. I think all the students should demand their money back.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:02 PM
Jul 2014


Nomen is Utah’s largest private English as a Second Language school and caters mostly to foreign students seeking admission to U.S. colleges and universities. Woodger says his school has taught 6,500 students from 58 countries during the past 15 years. Most of them, he says, are at basic levels of English and are not ready for the more complicated concepts such as homophones.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
30. So, he followed the standards and got fired anyway.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jul 2014

Homophones are a part of the ESL standards. For crying out loud.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
31. Fools. Nothing but fools.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:45 PM
Jul 2014

The people who did this should have their teacher's licenses taken away. Too bad their colleges can't take away their degrees. They aren't fit to ride on a garbage truck.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
45. I take it they only allow boys in school plays...
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jul 2014

...lest the girls be encouraged to become thespians?

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
52. Don't forget those studying pedagogy.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:31 PM
Jul 2014

They're dangerous.
A woman executive at Pizza Hut got fired for using "pedagogy" in a memo because the bosses thought she was referring to child molesters.


TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
56. Somewhere, in some dimension there has to be a race of dangerously intelligent beings
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:50 AM
Aug 2014

in desperate need of stupidity to save their species from destruction that we can work an exchange with.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
57. I'm pretty sure it's stuff like the article that keeps other intelliget life from coming here.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:48 AM
Aug 2014

Hard to justify the economics of intergalactic travel just to visit Stupid World.

And, goodness, doesn't that homo agenda get around? We need to root it out everywhere it pops up. Root it out! Send them all to jail! Deport them with all those dark-skinned people! Gotta save Murica for the Christian White Folk (TM), don't ya know.

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