My thoughts regarding companies firing overweight people..

[undergroundpanther]

The original abbreviation of the National Socialist Party was Nasos. The word “Nazi” derives from a Bavarian word that means “simple minded” and was first used as a term of derision by journalist Konrad Heiden (1901-1966).c
http://facts.randomhistory.com/world-war-ii-facts.html

Irresponsible purity..@ the workplace...


Joseph Goebbels declared: “Our starting point is not the individual, and we do not subscribe to the view that one should feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, or clothe the naked.... Our objectives are entirely different: we must have a healthy people in order to prevail in the world.”

About the BMI ..
http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin
/iowa/ajax.html?t=11471178#page:showThread,11471178

http://www.theopavlidis.com/HealthIssues/bmi_0.htm
http://www.cshassociates.com/page/2


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1347695
“Those in power would inevitably direct human breeding in their own interests,” he wrote. “It would mean that big business would create a race in its own image.... t would mean with men, as it does with animals, that breeding would be controlled for the use and purpose of the powerful and unintelligent."

Part of Nazi and facism ideology and a piece of society common in Europe during the time was the cult of the body, the idea that having a healthy body made a person an asset to the nation by contributing "healthy" genes and healthy citizens. Those who were disabled had, according to this idea, shown themselves unable to maintain a healthy body and thus were a threat to the nation by contributing "unhealthy" genes, and were also a drag on the greater development of the nation. This is related to the idea of Social Darwinism, that society ought to promote the survival of the fittest in humanity.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_were_the_disabled_persecuted_under_the_Nazi_regime


The complicity of German physicians in the Nazis' crimes against humanity is a well-established historical fact. Explaining that fact is far more difficult. Why were German doctors such avid fans of fascism? Why did nearly half of all German physicians join the Nazi party?
The exhibit begins with a life-size, anatomically correct, glass model of a male, whose organs, muscles, and bones can be seen through a clear plastic skin. His arms are outstretched as if in prayer, and his head is tilted upward to appear just the way he would have to visitors of the German Hygiene Museum in the 1930s. This fascination with the workings of the human body—in the original, the different organs lit up as different buttons were pressed—is a consistent theme throughout the exhibit. One video shows a model of the body, sliced up in horizontal sections, moving together and apart in slow motion. Another film, from the 1930s, is about the “miracle” of the human body and ends with the invocation—“O Health.” The goal of perfecting and glorifying the human form was a German obsession in the years leading up to the Nazi regime. Its legacy was treating some human beings as animals for experiments—to be poked, prodded, used, and murdered.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-legacy-of-nazi-medicine
http://nancylebov.livejournal.com/538148.html
http://schikelgruber.net/morell.html

Nazis never dissapeared really,they are here, in power,in america,the birthplace of eugenics..difference is they just don't tell everybody exactly what they believe in.Sometimes the mask slips and there is a gaffe,a lie believed by many..

[The Straight Story]

1. There are always those who fight against 'your body/your choice' in many different ways

Be careful opposing them though, gets you called a libertarian.

[provis99]

2. on the other hand...

[virgogal]

5. Why on earth would you laugh at the picture of a man

who obviously has a problem.

I thought we were better than that.

[Gemini Cat]

12. Huh?

Can you explain why you find this photo funny?

[Monk06]

14. That man has a form of obesity that cannot be explained by overeating. His face isn't fat

he starts gaining weight on his arms and then boom. Below the waist huge deposits of brown fat.
That is a metabolic and genetic disorder.

[virgogal]

4. Some companies won't hire,or will fire smokers. This is even if it

is done on the employees' free time,away from the workplace.

So now it's the overweight people that are being penalized.

What's next?

[loyalsister]

8. How does the employer know?

Is there, perhaps an odor? I stopped going to a hair salon because I was repulsed by the odor coming from employees who had obviously been smoking.

[The Straight Story]

13. They test them (and not just smoking - chewing/etc as well)

Scott's lawn care does this.

[TheDebbieDee]

11. What's next? Good question........this is a slippery slope type of issue.

Maybe this employer will nest want to fire all employees that frequently use a cell phone because users are at greater risk of developing brain tumors........

[doc03]

6. What if a persons weight prevents him from preforming his job? n/t

[undergroundpanther]

7. Most very heavy people

are well aware of their limitations.Because this bigoted fat phobe society reminds them every second of everyday.So much is the shame ignorance and pressure some kill themselves.Maybe that's what the simple minded fat phobes bigots want to happen to fat people.

My pardons to Andrew lloyd webber


Pilate.(fat phobe)

Who is this ugly fat man?
Cluttering up my hallway?
Who is this un-sightly-de-genernate?
Obesity....
King of twinkies.

(reply) Someone who could be - you - one day.

(age,injuries,pollution,sickness,medicines etc.)

[slampoet]

9. If the job isn't giving them exercise, where is this big physical demand coming from??

That is just the kind of stuff bad employers ask.

They expect a worker to sit or stand at a station for 12 hours shifts,

Find nutritious food in less than a half hour lunch.

Pick up heavy things without assistance or proper protection

but exercise on your own time and don't be a fatty


.....oh can you work this weekend too?

[doc03]

15. That's just bs. So you are blaming the employer for not working their employes hard enough.

I know people that had physically demanding jobs that still became so overweight they couldn't
do their work. Some people are gluttens. I know one that was hired with me back in 1970, we had just gotten
out of the army and he was in great shape. The guy had job that required miles of walking everyday. He ate constantly
and evetually got so fat one day his legs just gave out. He went down on his knees and it took 4 people to get himback on
his feet, Iwould guess he went 400 to 500 lbs. Oh the company also offered us gym membership. I also have brother that guit smoking two years ago and has put on close to 100 lbs, He has aphysically demanding job and I fear he is going that route too.

[bhikkhu]

10. Health is good

It is worth working for and worth educating people about.

I don't care what the nazis had to say.