Can the NSA help Israel go after Hamas ?

[JI7]

NSA is supposed to be all knowing. they know everything we do all the time and whenever we do it.

so can't these powers be used to locate where the Hamas and other terrorists are to take them out in similar ways to the Bin Laden raid ?

and wouldn't it be easier in the palestinian areas since they are pretty much shut in within that small area .

[4now]

1. Maybe our army could be used to go after Hamas too?

[JI7]

2. no, i mean instead of giving israel missiles , how about info from nsa

of where hamas is located ?

[PeoViejo]

3. NSA is too busy finding where DU'ers are located.

Every NSA snuffy that I had the displeasure to work with, from Senior Management to field flunkies were FUBAR. They couldn't find their asses with both hands, let alone HAMAS.

[riverwalker]

23. wtf?

you do know that Gaza elected Hamas to represent them, right? Why the heck would we want the NSA to be Israel's lacky along with Congress? "where they are located" ? Ummmm ...maybe in Gaza?
The last time US and Israel Intelligence shared info, they sent us into Iraq.

[Boom Sound 416]

4. The Mossad probably have got this one

[JI7]

5. they don't seem to be very good at it

[Boom Sound 416]

6. They seem to know their was an underground

Tunnel network.

Besides, I don't think they are having too much trouble breaking Hamas' intercontinental encryption.

[JI7]

8. then why are so many civilians being killed ? this didn't happen with the Bin Laden raid

and that was a much more difficult thing .

[Boom Sound 416]

13. On bin laden, the two couldn't be more different.

Hamas is using the civilians. Either the civillians are unaware or complicit.

I don't know why that's so inconceivable to so many.

[JI7]

15. there were civilians around bin laden, my point is the seals were able to take out bin laden

specifically while trying to prevent harm to others.

[Boom Sound 416]

19. Thousands of differences to the two,

But just for reference, who's your source on what actually happened.

And for that matter, who's our source on who's actually dying.

[Lost In America]

17. In very limited cases, yes, Hamas is using civilians.

I highly doubt that you'll find 1400 cases of such happening.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/31/gaza-faces-precipice-death-toll-tops-1400


Just sayin'.

[Boom Sound 416]

21. That's my assertion though

Either unaware or complicit.

I'll grant their are probably some hundreds that are collateral damage, fog of war type of tragedies. War is made up of humans.

I believe the Israelis wish no harm on innocents. And I believe both their apologies and their reasoning. It's a difficult dilemma when the enemy hides behind a child.

[seveneyes]

16. why are so many civilians being killed?

Because Hamas fights and hides among/behind them.

[riverwalker]

25. because Israel views Palestinians as sub-human

they don't care how many they kill. They seem to be actually proud of the casualty numbers.

[Garthem]

7. If they can, they should

Hamas is a terrorist organization. Last time I checked, we didn't approve of terrorists.

[bobduca]

14. Terra Terra Terra!

Welcome to the New DU!

You'll fit in great here.

[Lost In America]

20. +8675309

[riverwalker]

26. you need a better dictionary

Look up "terror"
Then go on Twitter read #GazaUnderAttack.

[bravenak]

28. You need to go and respond on the thread you started.

No hit and runs. Likud is a terrorist organization. Last time i checked, terrorists were the ones who killed piles of innocents just to get to a few guys. Like the suicide bombers? The ones who would strap a bomb on themselves and get close to a soldier and blow themselves up, taking out civilians and only one or two soldiers. I see no difference between blowing yourself and ten civilians up just to kill one soldier and blowing up an apartment building killing thirty civilians and one bad guy. Except that suicide bombers have less explosives and kill fewer people. Both are terrorist acts.

[Garthem]

30. Why should I respond to my own thread?

I said what I wanted to say, and I knew I would be flamed by reflexive Israel-haters. Why immerse myself in that quagmire?

[Dragonfli]

31. It is considered polite on a discussion board, to well, discuss and respond

Especially to at least some of the replies to one's own OP.
Think of it this way, posting the OP creates any "quagmire" the OP generates and should be a discussion rather than a hit and run that creates flame.

[uppityperson]

32. Your desire is to post flamebait and bail rather than discussing? Oh. Well, how about that.

[840high]

29. Welcome to DU.

[cheapdate]

9. I suppose they probably could. Why couldn't they?

[KG]

10. too busy spying on americans

[Scootaloo]

11. The NSA is too busy checking your spam filter for good deals on penis enlargment pills

[IronGate]

18. God, if this weren't so true,

it would be funny.

[DocwillCuNow]

27. Why don't they just shop at Walmart?? NSA, Not Socially Acceptable... n/t

[blkmusclmachine]

12. NSA is a money pit.

[Spider Jerusalem]

22. They very probably can and almost certainly shouldn't

Israel is illegally occupying the West Bank and Gaza; is illegally expanding settlements in occupied territory; has been denounced as a de facto apartheid state by various people including Desmond Tutu; the actions of the Palestinians constitute the legitimate right of resistance of a people under occupation by a colonialist power (recognised in Protocol I of the Geneva Convention). The US has no business getting involved and Israel is well on its way to being a pariah state. Honestly it's time for the US to stop giving Israel billions in funding and to stop vetoing UN Security Council resolutions aimed at censuring Israel.

[Kurska]

24. NSA+Israel in one thread.

[flamingdem]

33. What else can we add to the mix?