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Question? can anyone or any organization stop the $ that congress just approved to send Israel? (Original Post) xiamiam Aug 2014 OP
Well if we hire America's wealthiest and therefore most trustworthy citizen to fly it el_bryanto Aug 2014 #1
The President can, but won't. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #2
I almost forgot to blame Obama for this too. 4now Aug 2014 #3
ok, how will it play out if Israel is determined to be guilty of war crimes ? xiamiam Aug 2014 #4
No. He cannot. The presidency has no budgetary authority. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #10
Sure he does, he either signs or vetoes budgetary bills like any other bill. PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #13
That's not the same as deciding how much gets spent by whom on what. nt Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #24
Nope. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2014 #5
I wonder how many in our government have dual citizenships with Israel and B Calm Aug 2014 #6
I often wondered about Joe Lieberman and malaise Aug 2014 #7
The USA does not encourage it but accepts it. Loudly Aug 2014 #8
Thanks for the clarification malaise Aug 2014 #11
Yes, those sneaky Jews are infiltrating the government. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #9
Yep. And yet DU is OK with it. sufrommich Aug 2014 #14
...^ that 840high Aug 2014 #26
Is Israel a country or religion? B Calm Aug 2014 #29
My guess is none. MineralMan Aug 2014 #12
Ted "the Canadian" Cruz? HubertHeaver Aug 2014 #17
Michele Bachmann apparently acquired and then renounced dual citizenship while in office HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #18
Why don't you google it and see what strange bedfellows you find sufrommich Aug 2014 #15
I did. Lots of wacko RW sites asking the same question, but MineralMan Aug 2014 #20
Very reminiscent of those who questioned sufrommich Aug 2014 #21
Exactly. It's all anti-somethingism. MineralMan Aug 2014 #22
are you talking about Boehner ? JI7 Aug 2014 #16
I wonder if anyone thinks this is anti-semitic oberliner Aug 2014 #25
this is not a new issue, if you care enough campaign on it, get others to vote based on it JI7 Aug 2014 #19
No. See the Constitution. MineralMan Aug 2014 #23
Good luck finding an organization that has more pull with congress mwrguy Aug 2014 #27
Big Oil, Agribusiness, Defense Industry, Big Pharma, AARP oberliner Aug 2014 #28
Followup: Obama signs bill giving Israel $225 million for missile defense system. PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #30

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. Well if we hire America's wealthiest and therefore most trustworthy citizen to fly it
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 05:50 PM
Aug 2014

He might steal it and keep it for himself.

Bryant

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
4. ok, how will it play out if Israel is determined to be guilty of war crimes ?
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 06:07 PM
Aug 2014

I know you don't have a crystal ball, I'm just wondering about the logistics of the us aiding and if events that happened in these past three weeks are eventually determined to be war crimes, before the money was allocated?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,658 posts)
5. Nope.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 06:08 PM
Aug 2014

Under the Constitution, Congress has control of the national checkbook. The president would have to veto any spending bill, which in this case would likely be - unfortunately - politically untenable.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
6. I wonder how many in our government have dual citizenships with Israel and
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 06:11 PM
Aug 2014

which country they pledge allegiance to.

malaise

(268,846 posts)
7. I often wondered about Joe Lieberman and
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 06:16 PM
Aug 2014

Bloomberg - good question particularly since the US does not recognize dual nationality.

malaise

(268,846 posts)
11. Thanks for the clarification
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 07:48 PM
Aug 2014

I was not aware of this part

Although naturalizing citizens are required to undertake an oath renouncing previous allegiances, the oath has never been enforced to require the actual termination of original citizenship

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
9. Yes, those sneaky Jews are infiltrating the government.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 07:44 PM
Aug 2014


It's amazing how many recite every anti-Semitic trope that has been handed do through the ages but they act with feigned indignation when their anti-Semitism is pointed out.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
12. My guess is none.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 07:53 PM
Aug 2014

Such a thing would be discovered and would cost that person the election. I would bet that not one member of Congress holds dual citizenship.

Go see if you can find anyone. Bet you can't.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
18. Michele Bachmann apparently acquired and then renounced dual citizenship while in office
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:07 PM
Aug 2014

she renounced it in May of 2012 after about 2 months of being Swiss-American (which appropriately sounds decidedly cheezy).

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
20. I did. Lots of wacko RW sites asking the same question, but
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:11 PM
Aug 2014

Not presenting evidence. It's telling that only Israeli dual citizenship is mentioned, too.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
21. Very reminiscent of those who questioned
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:14 PM
Aug 2014

whether the Kennedys would "answer to Rome" and just as ignorant.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
22. Exactly. It's all anti-somethingism.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:16 PM
Aug 2014

Speculation and innuendo with no factual basis. Bullshit, in other words.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
19. this is not a new issue, if you care enough campaign on it, get others to vote based on it
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:10 PM
Aug 2014

support candidates who oppose it.

mwrguy

(3,245 posts)
27. Good luck finding an organization that has more pull with congress
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:23 PM
Aug 2014

than AIPAC.

Not even the NRA has that much juice.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
28. Big Oil, Agribusiness, Defense Industry, Big Pharma, AARP
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:36 PM
Aug 2014

I think pro-Israel and NRA would come in maybe 9th and 10th respectively.

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