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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo...Van Jones thinks that both He and Obama had No Idea about RW Media Control? WHAT!
(You have to read the Transcript or view the Video to understand how angry this makes me feel. Van Jones is being interviewed on "Democracy Now" about his new book on leaving the Obama Administration and it's his "TELL All" but, this inteview made me feel sick. Like Obama and Jones (a long time activist) weren't aware of how powerful the RW/MIC Controlled Info-Tainment Media had grown? How much influence they had after they had been complicit in trying to impeach a Dem President for years...and led us into TWO WARS with countries who had nothing to do with those 19 who attacked the WTC? Please view the Video or read Transcript ...in case I've just over reacted... My snips can't tell the whole story...so check it out for yourself, please!Former Obama Adviser Van Jones on Life Inside White House and Right-Wing Smear Attack
Amy Goodman
Democracy Now! / Video Report
Published: Sunday 8 April 2012
"I am probably the only person in American life who was a grassroots outsider, who became a White House insider.
(From Transcript Video of "Democracy Now" Interview)
AMY GOODMAN: Let me ask you, though, about the White House, what many perceived outside as abandoning you, not being there, not standing up. I mean, you were saying, "Im not the issue, so I am just going to step aside."
VAN JONES\ Yeah, yeah.
AMY GOODMAN: But for many, I mean, they saw Shirley Sherrod not originally stood up for. And then you see the difference now. For example, when Rush Limbaugh goes after Sandra Fluke, who was the young woman who was going to testify before Congress about the importance of contraceptives being covered by health insurance, when Planned Parenthood did not back off, when even the White House, when Congress did not back off, it was Rush Limbaugh who became the target himself instead of this young woman, and this young woman became stronger.
VAN JONES: Yeah.
AMY GOODMAN: While youre saying, "Well, I didnt want to be the issue," many other people saw you as an example of a verycoming out of movements, and that movements were being abandoned.
VAN JONES: Sure, but you have to remember, thisweve learned. I mean, this is two-and-a-half years later. Were all a lot smarter. Were all a lot tougher. This was a moment of change, an inflection point in the way the media system was operating. Up until then, you know, the concern that you might get sued for libel, for instanceI mean, he says Imnot onlyhe called me a felon, all kind of stuff, whichyou know, I know a lot of people who are felons; I just happen not to be one. But, you know, there was a sense that, well, geez, no big corporate media structure would allow libelouswell, it turned out that they made a calculation, apparently, they would rather have the lawsuit, if they could go after the President. That was new. So you have to give movements and you have to give White Houses opportunities to learn and to grow. Nobody in that building asked me to resign. Everybody in the building said, "Well fight til the last dog barks." I didnt think that was the right way to go at that time.
AMY GOODMAN: Did you talk to President Obama at that time?
VAN JONES: Im not going to talk about those kinds of things. But what I will say is this. I thought, and I think most people in the same situationI thought, look, I know what theyre trying to do here. The President is about to reset the national conversation on healthcare. We had gone through the whole month of August with the town hall meetings, etc. Hes going to reset this conversation on healthcare. They need a distraction. Theyre desperate. Theyre going to go through every single position statement Ive ever made in the history of my colorful left-wing career every day to try to keep us from having a discussion on healthcare. I thought that it was more appropriate for me to step back, take that away from them, and let the President move forward.
Now listen, to the extent that people wanted some other thing to happen, I dont agree that that was the time and the place to have that fight. I think it was better for us to focus on the healthcare fight at that time. However, moving forward, now that we know more about how this thing works, I do agree that weve got to be tougher. I do agree that weve got to stick up. But youre talking about a brand new playbook being created on the spot in real time with healthcare hanging in the balance.
Video and Transcript at:
http://www.nationofchange.org/former-obama-adviser-van-jones-life-inside-white-house-and-right-wing-smear-attack-1333900538
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
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calimary
(81,220 posts)with a rusty-nail-studded 2x4, and they're only now starting to figure this out?
KoKo
(84,711 posts)but,I'm getting tired of crying me eyes out over our (to me) Clueless Dem Party..for years....and now...just into "QUESTIONING"....
What else is there to know abut how Obama and his Dem Handlers who groomed him for years....just "DIDN'T KNOW" HOW evil the MIC,INFOTAINMENT ADVERTISING CONGLOMERATE...and THE REST...WERE?
GREAT EXCUSE...Not much to back it up, though... If one digs DEEP into History...
provis99
(13,062 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Yeah, I have to agree with you. How on earth can they be so clueless? I don't believe for a minute that they are, I think they just underestimated how pissed off and hurt people really are, and I think they are still underestimating it, and if they don't do something dramatic to relive it soon, they (and all the rest of us) will pay for it in November.
FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)Sure they reared their ugly head NUMEROUS times but mostly to lie and spread propaganda FOR the current administration at the time (BushCo). Since Obama they've gone on the offensive and really brought this brand of disgusting yellow journalism to critical mass. They should have been prepared because of the BS that the RW was spewing before the election but I think when they won they really thought that was the end of RW media. Like no one wanted to hear from them anymore and they've been exposed.
Then came the Tea Party...And FOX found a familiar base. Ignorant christian conservatives & delusional evangelicals.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Given what we who have been on DU since the Selection....they weren't listening to anything we ever tried to do. "Move On.ORG" and
all the BLOGOSPHERE LEFT who WORKED SO HARD!
IGNORED...by OBAMA TEAM? They didn't KNOW...WHO WE WERE?
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)before Bush the Lessor took office.
Autumn
(45,057 posts)on that. What do they think? We Democrats are fucking stupid? Bullshit
xchrom
(108,903 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)Given the dire circumstances we were in at the time, I think that they counted on, albeit naively, that the Republicans would roll up their sleeves and get down to the business of helping clean up the absolute clusterf**k that Bush/Cheney left in their departure. I myself had thought- or perhaps hoped- that there was still some semblance of pragmatism and/or moderation left within the GOP or at least that they would recognize the need of putting aside petty disputes to deal with the unfolding economic disaster. It became pretty clear to me that, towards the end of that first year, however, the party had decided to go en masse with Limbaugh's policy of "want Obama to fail and do what they can to make it happen" and had created the so-called "Tea Party" to serve as its new foot soldiers to keep the moderate and potentially treasonous GOPers (the ones most likely to, you know, actually do their job and whom didn't believe in their scorched earth policies) in line, slow and/or stop the advance of President Obama and Democrats' agenda, and set the stage for the 2010 midterm elections and, they hoped, the 2012 Presidential Election.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)So, you aren't aware of how Ludicrous Van Jones statements are...(If you read whole Transcript or View Video on "Democracy Now" interview.)
Some of us DEMS here since 2000 SELECTION on "Democratic Underground" ...coming off the Clinton Impeachment Years, the Starr Commission and other transgressions of the Repugs...could wonder why...Van Jones is so CLUELESS...though. Is it because he is just Clueless? Or, is it because he's written a book and looking forward to the revenue..?
http://www.nationofchange.org/former-obama-adviser-van-jones-life-inside-white-house-and-right-wing-smear-attack-1333900538
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)"Out Here" for years?
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)i don't blame him for that but I don't take him seriously either except as an attractive person who is burnishing his brand.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I first came across him when he was working on Arianna Huffington's campaign for CA gov. Is that grass roots?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Senator Akaka, Hi, Congresswoman Davis, CA. Up to 2004 Kucinich, no introductions needed. Up to Katrina, Senator Boxer.
It comes down to this...they live in their own bubble.
Yup. That was what Akaka told us when, over coffee at Borders in Honolulu, we explained this and a few other things. Among them that we were stealing our oil from under their sands.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)While the rest of us live with constant uncertainty. It's how it works out these days.
The ENTITLED...and the rest of us "left behind."
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)They know what their chief of staff puts in front of them.
There are exceptions of course and I know how damn lucky I got when Katrina hit.
tabatha
(18,795 posts)And there are things you can know about, but not really know about until they hit you.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)I'd have to read his book...but, the excerpts don't seem to relay that he's thinking further than getting some publicity.
BUT...without PUBLICITY...how can he get a "new" message across? So, the book might have the answer but, his clueless seeming response to Obama not knowing what he was getting into...did seem a bit false.