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Yavin4

(35,433 posts)
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 08:54 PM Aug 2014

Shouldn't the NFL, College Football, MMA Fighting, and Boxing all be banned?

It's been demonstrated through study after study of the health hazards to the performers in these sports. Performers in these sports have died early deaths and suffered from major brain trauma.

Or is it because this form of entertainment does not involve sex, then people don't really care.

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Shouldn't the NFL, College Football, MMA Fighting, and Boxing all be banned? (Original Post) Yavin4 Aug 2014 OP
Around where I live, nobody gets kidnapped and forced to play in the NFL. Shrike47 Aug 2014 #1
Please. Stop it. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #27
I see you are getting razed about your post yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #31
In certain parts of America, young boys are coerced into playing football. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #38
Young boys are "coerced" into a lot of things. former9thward Aug 2014 #49
No. (nt) Inkfreak Aug 2014 #2
Participants should be informed of all the risks, hifiguy Aug 2014 #3
Absolutely. All risky activity should be banned. Throd Aug 2014 #4
Next you'll be calling to ban dueling. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #5
and bear baiting! nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #13
and narwhal jousting! Throd Aug 2014 #17
And wolverine rodeos! pipi_k Aug 2014 #23
People die from driving cars, swimming, hiking, all kinds of things. Calista241 Aug 2014 #6
No. And I hate to say it, but... JaneyVee Aug 2014 #7
Grand Slam!!! NightWatcher Aug 2014 #9
TBBT brachism Aug 2014 #21
They mystery is that anyone watches them. DavidDvorkin Aug 2014 #8
What's the mystery? blueamy66 Aug 2014 #22
I understand that people enjoy watching them DavidDvorkin Aug 2014 #25
What do you enjoy watching? blueamy66 Aug 2014 #54
Not team sports DavidDvorkin Aug 2014 #55
There you go. blueamy66 Aug 2014 #56
I'm glad you have those great memories DavidDvorkin Aug 2014 #57
I think... ClarkeVII Aug 2014 #10
Well like others have said, everything is a risk yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #34
Yet there is a cost/benefit ratio to everything also. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #47
red meat is bad, alcohol is bad, people are injured everyday doing everything NightWatcher Aug 2014 #11
Freedom is oppression The Straight Story Aug 2014 #15
Yeah... speed limits are so authoritarian. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #48
Quick, your straw man is blowing away. NightWatcher Aug 2014 #52
A beautiful mind seveneyes Aug 2014 #12
Contact sports are important for both society and as a good national distraction. Rex Aug 2014 #14
Bread and circuses. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #18
Maybe people just enjoy watching sports with no nefarious back-story involved. Throd Aug 2014 #19
Do you spend your free time in quiet solitude? delta17 Aug 2014 #33
only if you want open revolt dembotoz Aug 2014 #16
If you try to ban hockey Canada will rise up and declare war to protect their national interests Baclava Aug 2014 #20
I'd say base jumping, skydiving, alpine skiing, too! TransitJohn Aug 2014 #24
All car races should be de-tuned 1985 Toyota Tercels Throd Aug 2014 #26
That sounds more like bumper cars, lol. TransitJohn Aug 2014 #41
Yes, in fact we should ban everything. zappaman Aug 2014 #28
Well, now that you say. The New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox, and... madinmaryland Aug 2014 #29
I think that your list is missing a team. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #36
We can ban everything bad for you. ohnoyoudidnt Aug 2014 #30
The shells....they're still a mystery to me. Inkfreak Aug 2014 #42
LOl ....."you really matched his meat" ! NM_Birder Aug 2014 #45
From early childhood boys and some girls are conditioned to accept contact sports as a Lint Head Aug 2014 #32
In the case of Football: we start these kids at such a young age .. it could be life changing. YOHABLO Aug 2014 #35
Um, no Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #37
Thank you. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #39
As parents become more informed about the very real risks tblue37 Aug 2014 #40
Football is America's version of the Roman Colosseum shedevil69taz Aug 2014 #53
There are more important issues to be dealt with first, I think. MineralMan Aug 2014 #43
Don't ban them. Institute vice taxes against them Taitertots Aug 2014 #44
Sure trumad Aug 2014 #46
Better than who? The Jaguars? 11 Bravo Aug 2014 #50
I always have optimism at the beginning of the season. trumad Aug 2014 #51
Do the people in those professions get PTSD from it? redqueen Aug 2014 #58

Yavin4

(35,433 posts)
38. In certain parts of America, young boys are coerced into playing football.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:56 PM
Aug 2014

Which probably happens a hell of a lot more than the woman being forced into porn.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
49. Young boys are "coerced" into a lot of things.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:24 PM
Aug 2014

It is called socialization. We don't let young boys decide their life. If we did all they would do is eat ice cream and candy while playing video games.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
3. Participants should be informed of all the risks,
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:12 PM
Aug 2014

but it's an open choice freely made. It should be an informed choice, but that's as far as I could ever go.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
7. No. And I hate to say it, but...
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:27 PM
Aug 2014

This is exactly the kind of "nanny-state" bullshit that gives liberalism a bad name. Liberalism is freedom, not fascism.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
22. What's the mystery?
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:20 PM
Aug 2014

Just because you don't enjoy those sports, doesn't mean that others don't and cannot.

Tell me what you enjoy doing/watching/playing....then I'll give you my opinion.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
55. Not team sports
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 08:29 PM
Aug 2014

Opera, ballet, gymnastics, diving, plays.

Of course many people don't understand how anyone can watch those. That's irrelevant to my post.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
56. There you go.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 02:06 AM
Aug 2014

I could not watch an opera or a ballet. Plays, yes.

To each their own.

Just don't put down what others enjoy.

I have so many great memories of going to games with my late Father.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
57. I'm glad you have those great memories
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 10:09 AM
Aug 2014

Last edited Sat Aug 9, 2014, 10:45 AM - Edit history (1)

When I was a kid, I watched some sports and enjoyed it. But when I grew up, I lost all interest in watching them, and now it's a complete mystery to me that anyone but a kid does so.

ClarkeVII

(89 posts)
10. I think...
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:31 PM
Aug 2014

in 50 years it gets banned. High school football gets banned first and I'm all for it. The NFL and College football scam taxpayers so hard.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
47. Yet there is a cost/benefit ratio to everything also.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:18 PM
Aug 2014

Yet there is a cost/benefit ratio to everything also.

"The myriad ways we justify to ourselves the casual and lavish consumptions we so desire, exceeded only by our excesses we defend to the last..."

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
11. red meat is bad, alcohol is bad, people are injured everyday doing everything
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:37 PM
Aug 2014

I fell mountain climbing, should we level all the mountains and pave the sidewalks with rubber mats?

It's a free country and people should be free to play sports, watch sports, pay for sports....

Why do you want to control what people do? Why don't you like freedom?

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
15. Freedom is oppression
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:51 PM
Aug 2014

when we let people have freedom they often make personal choices we don't like, which oppresses us. Smokers, porn, Home schooling, guns, fast food, large sodas, SUV's, pit bulls, This would be a much better society if we lived to pleased some god or other and punished choices we didn't like (or at least shamed them more for their sins).

We must examine the money it costs for each moment and choice of your life and then either charge you for your choices or raise taxes so high only the good people (the wealthy) can do those things. Freedom should only be for those amongst us who are superior and make the 'right' choices we think they should - it's the liberal way these days, not like them silly 'free love' style hippies (A lot of them were smokers and nearly destroyed our entire society, but jeebus saved us! Now go, and 'sin' no more).

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. Yeah... speed limits are so authoritarian.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:21 PM
Aug 2014

Yeah... speed limits are so authoritarian. Everyone should drive where and how they deem best for themselves, without outside interference from traffic laws, stop signs, speed limits or lighted intersections... all the better to advertise our love of freedom.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
52. Quick, your straw man is blowing away.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:38 PM
Aug 2014

I did not advocate for total anarchy.

Banning all sports and traffic laws are not the same thing.

If you cannot see that, you are being intellectually dishonest.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. Contact sports are important for both society and as a good national distraction.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:50 PM
Aug 2014

The Staples Center performs a function.

OTOH sex, violence, deviated behavior will always attract those that feel...curious?

delta17

(283 posts)
33. Do you spend your free time in quiet solitude?
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:49 PM
Aug 2014

People like entertainment after a long work week. God forbid someone watch a game or an action movie.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
20. If you try to ban hockey Canada will rise up and declare war to protect their national interests
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:06 PM
Aug 2014

well, that's what I heard

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
29. Well, now that you say. The New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox, and...
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:45 PM
Aug 2014

the Sports Group on DU should be banned.



ETA: The Washington DC football team should be banned, also, for having a racist name.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
42. The shells....they're still a mystery to me.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 02:50 PM
Aug 2014

Guilty pleasure movie. And where I first developed my Sandra Bullock crush.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
32. From early childhood boys and some girls are conditioned to accept contact sports as a
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:47 PM
Aug 2014

display of patriotism and the American way of life. I played football all though High School. In the deep south at that time it was expected. I was on the team that is depicted in the movie Radio. I didn't realize how brutal people could be until I had my faced stepped on intentionally, kicked in the groin an run over by guys twice as heavy as myself. I would have preferred to have just been the creative person I eventually became when I turned my back on it my senior year. It was during the Vietnam War and I decided that brutality was not my thing.

Banning it would be next to impossible even today.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
37. Um, no
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:55 PM
Aug 2014

The performers of these sports (and amateur and semi-pro wrestling which I did) know the risks and choose to accept them.

tblue37

(65,293 posts)
40. As parents become more informed about the very real risks
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:20 PM
Aug 2014

to their kids' brains, more and more will decide not to let their kids play football. It won't stop being a popular and lucrative form of entertainment, but like boxing, it will become more and more a sport that is populated by disadvantaged kids who see putting their bodies on the line that way to be a possible ticket out of poverty.

When more and more middle-class parents stop letting their own kids play football, peewee leagues and middle school/junior high school, high school, and college football will no longer be producing the ready stream of players, except for those who are recruited from poorer neighborhoods.

Already some of the best athletic talent in both college football and college basketball is being recruited from poorer neighborhoods, without regard for whether the kids even want to attend college or have the academic preparation to succeed in college. But since they see the sport as a way to achieve success in an economy that is rigged against them (and because most of them do enjoy playing the games), a lot of these kids are devoted to practice and become extraordinarily skilled.


So what I think is that football will eventually become more like boxing. People will still watch it, and there will still be a lot of money in it for promoters, but most of the players won't see much benefit from it (so that part at least will remain the same as it is today). And many, perhaps most of the athletes who will perform for the entertainment and profit of others will be disadvantaged young men who see the sport as their way out of poverty.

shedevil69taz

(512 posts)
53. Football is America's version of the Roman Colosseum
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:48 PM
Aug 2014

Though I'm not ashamed to admit I very much enjoy watching it (on TV)...the objective is not to kill or injure the players even though it can happen, and by now they should know the risks involved...

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
43. There are more important issues to be dealt with first, I think.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 02:53 PM
Aug 2014

This isn't a serious proposal.

I do suggest that you not participate in such activities, though.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
44. Don't ban them. Institute vice taxes against them
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 02:54 PM
Aug 2014

Like cigarettes, beer, wine, weed....

Oh wait. People who support those only want vice taxes applied to things that THEY don't like doing.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
50. Better than who? The Jaguars?
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:27 PM
Aug 2014

(Hey, we kid because we love! My Redskins haven't exactly covered themselves in glory since Gibbs left.)

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
51. I always have optimism at the beginning of the season.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:29 PM
Aug 2014

Give me until Nov. until I come back to reality.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
58. Do the people in those professions get PTSD from it?
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 10:43 AM
Aug 2014

Are they raped on the job?

Are they threatened with violence if they try to leave the job?


It's disgusting that so many here are so committed to pushing the idea that prostitution is just a job like any other.

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