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(72,631 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,338 posts)Thanks for the thread, n2doc.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)The victim doesn't have brown skin.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)But that seems to be the general trend.
Journeyman
(15,031 posts)Rather than a plea for help, it's a signal for danger all around.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...destroy the image of "Protect and serve the public"
You KNOW there has to be a lot of Officers that get royally pissed when they see what the Storm-Trooper-pricks have
done to their profession.
I know I would.
Edit: Spelling
MurrayDelph
(5,293 posts)they get pissed enough to stop (and report) the bad cops, the problem us never going to go away.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...wind up leaving the force.
Fred Drum
(293 posts)there are not as many 'good' cops as you might think
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Plus, a lot of people have families and such.
I don't have the answers or even the right questions.
Fred Drum
(293 posts)if i saw a cop shot in the face in the street, and i know who did it, and "held my tongue", you know 'snitches are bitches'
i'm one of the good guys?
some debate huh
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Fred Drum
(293 posts)a large percentage of cops would never testify against their "brothers"
they think they are the good guys
they're not
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)No. This is a matter of top-down policy, politics, money, impunity, and a culture sanctioned from the top. Policy, like "broken windows" and "zero tolerance" policing, preemptive surveillance, the use of SWAT teams tens of thousands of times a year across the country, the militarization of the police that has also borrowed from the military the philosophy of overwhelming force and viewing all citizens as potential enemy. Politics, as in elected leaders and appointed officials going along to get along, fearful of challenging these policies even if they wanted to. Money, as in the enormous budgets these policies justify, and the measurement of "performance" by the likes of CompStat and arrest totals, the data-driven assumption that arrests must be kept at a certain level. Culture, as in for the cops, the "blue wall of silence" and automatic rallying around the bad apples, the feeling they are besieged; and among the people, the constant promotion of fear and exaggeration of the threats of crime and "terrorism." And impunity, of course. The NYPD just announced that, contrary to the video evidence and the coroner's report (which ruled a homicide), no chokehold was used against Garner. Think of all those administrative non-punishments and juries (in the rare cases when cases come to trial) letting off cops in the most egregious of cases, like Diallo. All this happens to privilege the presumably small percentage of particularly brutal cops, but also serves to make them more brutal, to sanction brutality. A great deal of it is stomp-your-door-in business as usual, a system at work.
Chakab
(1,727 posts)Police departments are increasingly militarized. Officers seem to be trained to respond with violence at the slightest hint that a person may be "resisting" them or disobeying their commands rather than to deescalate situations. It's also commonplace for officers to lie about everything from minute details in their interactions with the public to gross misconduct on the part of their cohorts.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)turning a blind eye.
When a good cop looks away he/she becomes a bad cop.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)the 'good' cops have to get control of their profession.
It would be like archaeologists letting their profession be run by looters.
Cops are the problem, both the good and the bad.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)But, we can't.