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Luckovich Toon- Are You Being Assaulted, Sir? (Original Post) n2doc Aug 2014 OP
A Sad , But HUGE... K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #1
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #2
I hate to for such a sick thing, but I simply must K&R for truth. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #3
Ditto, not something I'm happy about kicking AuntPatsy Aug 2014 #14
Only one problem with this toon: Brigid Aug 2014 #4
They don't always Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #7
Quite true. Brigid Aug 2014 #9
Too often, the shout of "Help, police!" is a cry of warning . . . Journeyman Aug 2014 #5
K&R. Overseas Aug 2014 #6
I find it sad, with there being so many good cops, that a small percentage can totally.. BlueJazz Aug 2014 #8
Ahhh, but until MurrayDelph Aug 2014 #10
Yep. Your words are true. The Blue Wall is hard to break...and those that do usually.. BlueJazz Aug 2014 #11
which means ... Fred Drum Aug 2014 #12
That can be debated. People tend to hold their tongues when violence will follow their words. BlueJazz Aug 2014 #13
i too have a family Fred Drum Aug 2014 #15
Your point is circular BlueJazz Aug 2014 #17
lets be clear Fred Drum Aug 2014 #18
The police problem is not about "a small percentage" of bad cops. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #16
Small percentage my ass. The modern culture of policing is rotten to the core. Chakab Aug 2014 #21
Every single one of those bad cops is because of good cops obxhead Aug 2014 #23
Then it is up to them to step up and regulate. blackspade Aug 2014 #24
kick n/t n2doc Aug 2014 #19
Ask Diallo how he's doing? Octafish Aug 2014 #20
KnR KansDem Aug 2014 #22
K&R blackspade Aug 2014 #25
Great cartoon Gothmog Aug 2014 #26
k&r thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #27

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
5. Too often, the shout of "Help, police!" is a cry of warning . . .
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:17 PM
Aug 2014

Rather than a plea for help, it's a signal for danger all around.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
8. I find it sad, with there being so many good cops, that a small percentage can totally..
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:31 PM
Aug 2014

...destroy the image of "Protect and serve the public"

You KNOW there has to be a lot of Officers that get royally pissed when they see what the Storm-Trooper-pricks have
done to their profession.

I know I would.

Edit: Spelling

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
10. Ahhh, but until
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:45 PM
Aug 2014

they get pissed enough to stop (and report) the bad cops, the problem us never going to go away.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
11. Yep. Your words are true. The Blue Wall is hard to break...and those that do usually..
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:55 PM
Aug 2014

...wind up leaving the force.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
13. That can be debated. People tend to hold their tongues when violence will follow their words.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:13 PM
Aug 2014

Plus, a lot of people have families and such.
I don't have the answers or even the right questions.

Fred Drum

(293 posts)
15. i too have a family
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:57 PM
Aug 2014

if i saw a cop shot in the face in the street, and i know who did it, and "held my tongue", you know 'snitches are bitches'

i'm one of the good guys?

some debate huh

Fred Drum

(293 posts)
18. lets be clear
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 02:23 AM
Aug 2014

a large percentage of cops would never testify against their "brothers"

they think they are the good guys

they're not

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
16. The police problem is not about "a small percentage" of bad cops.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:13 PM
Aug 2014

No. This is a matter of top-down policy, politics, money, impunity, and a culture sanctioned from the top. Policy, like "broken windows" and "zero tolerance" policing, preemptive surveillance, the use of SWAT teams tens of thousands of times a year across the country, the militarization of the police that has also borrowed from the military the philosophy of overwhelming force and viewing all citizens as potential enemy. Politics, as in elected leaders and appointed officials going along to get along, fearful of challenging these policies even if they wanted to. Money, as in the enormous budgets these policies justify, and the measurement of "performance" by the likes of CompStat and arrest totals, the data-driven assumption that arrests must be kept at a certain level. Culture, as in for the cops, the "blue wall of silence" and automatic rallying around the bad apples, the feeling they are besieged; and among the people, the constant promotion of fear and exaggeration of the threats of crime and "terrorism." And impunity, of course. The NYPD just announced that, contrary to the video evidence and the coroner's report (which ruled a homicide), no chokehold was used against Garner. Think of all those administrative non-punishments and juries (in the rare cases when cases come to trial) letting off cops in the most egregious of cases, like Diallo. All this happens to privilege the presumably small percentage of particularly brutal cops, but also serves to make them more brutal, to sanction brutality. A great deal of it is stomp-your-door-in business as usual, a system at work.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
21. Small percentage my ass. The modern culture of policing is rotten to the core.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 11:22 AM
Aug 2014

Police departments are increasingly militarized. Officers seem to be trained to respond with violence at the slightest hint that a person may be "resisting" them or disobeying their commands rather than to deescalate situations. It's also commonplace for officers to lie about everything from minute details in their interactions with the public to gross misconduct on the part of their cohorts.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
23. Every single one of those bad cops is because of good cops
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:44 PM
Aug 2014

turning a blind eye.

When a good cop looks away he/she becomes a bad cop.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
24. Then it is up to them to step up and regulate.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 05:16 PM
Aug 2014

the 'good' cops have to get control of their profession.

It would be like archaeologists letting their profession be run by looters.

Cops are the problem, both the good and the bad.

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