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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 12:04 PM Aug 2014

Furious Likud Party Leaders charge Netanyahu capitulated to Hamas - World Tribune

http://www.worldtribune.com/2014/08/05/likud-party-leaders-furious-netanyahus-capitulation-hamas/


Which begs the question, which party, Hamas or Likud, wants to kill every one of each other more?

Notice the disregard of all members for the civilian casualties, for the humanitarian crisis, for it is all about person power lust translated into blood lust, tinged with religious zealotry that rises from the great pool of religious zealotry that they all swim in.

They are not like you and I.

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Furious Likud Party leaders charge Netanyahu capitulated to Hamas
Special to WorldTribune.com

JERUSALEM — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, blamed for Israel’s defeat in the war against Hamas, faces a revolt within his ruling Likud Party.
Leading members of the Likud, concerned over polls that oppose the unilateral withdrawal, have begun to distance themselves from Netanyahu as the conflict in the Gaza Strip turns into a war of attrition. The members have stressed that they would no longer support Netanyahu’s position to establish a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

Israeli Interior Minister Gideon Sa’ar

“After withdrawing from Lebanon brought Hizbullah to power and withdrawing from the Gaza Strip brought Hamas to power, the lesson must be not to form a terrorist state in the heart of our land,” Interior Minister Gideon Sa’ar said. “A Palestinian state would endanger Israel’s future.”
In an address on Aug. 3, Sa’ar, identified as the No. 2 figure in the Likud, objected to Netanyahu’s policy against Jewish communities in the West Bank. The interior minister, in an address to a Likud audience, said Israeli withdrawal was only encouraging terrorism.

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"Political sources predict that tensions within Netanyahu’s coalition as well as his ruling party would escalate as Hamas maintains rocket and tunnel attacks. They said the prime minister as well as Cabinet members were bracing for a public backlash that could result in another commission of inquiry, which over the last 30 years ended the careers of numerous politicians and generals.
“This is a bad government that needs to be replaced,” opposition leader Yitzhak Herzog said."
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Furious Likud Party Leaders charge Netanyahu capitulated to Hamas - World Tribune (Original Post) Fred Sanders Aug 2014 OP
World Tribune is the farthest thing from a reputable source HERVEPA Aug 2014 #1
Refute the reported comments.....shoot the messenger later. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #2
Do you have other more reputable sources for this? HERVEPA Aug 2014 #7
I don't get paid enough to do only my own research. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #17
? Did you mean "don't" ? HERVEPA Aug 2014 #18
Thank you, I do. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #19
Truth will out malaise Aug 2014 #3
"Israel’s defeat in the war against Hamas" former9thward Aug 2014 #4
They crawled there days before Likud was forced there. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #6
Don't understand the staement. Please clarify. HERVEPA Aug 2014 #8
Short version - Hamas party negotiators were in Cairo when the present ceasefire was announced. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #9
I guess. In any case, hamas broke the cease fire, tus more of their people will die. HERVEPA Aug 2014 #10
Getting back to your debunked point.....Likud did the crawling, no? Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #12
That sounds about right. hifiguy Aug 2014 #5
of mostly repeating the same thing constantly HERVEPA Aug 2014 #11
I suggest we re-brand the Gaza conflict GliderGuider Aug 2014 #13
I'd look at the charters of both organizations and begin my presumptions from there... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #14
How about putting IDF uniforms on the Likud leadership and putting them on the battlefield? nt kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #15
Say what? Bibi is in this up to his eye balls for criminal complicity: Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #16

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. Refute the reported comments.....shoot the messenger later.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 12:44 PM
Aug 2014

There are many sources reporting a split in the Likud party, with the war hawks on the ascent.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
7. Do you have other more reputable sources for this?
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 02:21 PM
Aug 2014

If someeone publishes that there are green and yellow penguins on Mars, I have no way to refute that.
Doesn't mean it's true.
Because I have no way to refute your source doesn't make it a reputable source or make the info true.
It may very well be true, but I'd like to see it from a non right-wing source.

former9thward

(31,941 posts)
4. "Israel’s defeat in the war against Hamas"
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 01:00 PM
Aug 2014

Israel was not defeated. Hamas was and is why they finally crawled to the negotiating table in Cairo. Israel achieved all of its military objectives which were stated beforehand.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. Short version - Hamas party negotiators were in Cairo when the present ceasefire was announced.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 02:29 PM
Aug 2014

Likud said for two days they would send negotiators only "after the ceasefire held", meaning no rockets.

Then they went.

So..........I have explained?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. That sounds about right.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 01:02 PM
Aug 2014

And many thanks to you, Fred, for your diligent and tireless work on this issue.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
13. I suggest we re-brand the Gaza conflict
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 02:43 PM
Aug 2014

I'm going to start calling it "The Likud/Hamas War" to make it clear that the problem is the political leaders on both sides, rather than the citizens.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. I'd look at the charters of both organizations and begin my presumptions from there...
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 02:46 PM
Aug 2014

"Hamas or Likud, wants to kill every one of each other more?"

I'd look at the charters of both organizations and begin my presumptions from there...

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
16. Say what? Bibi is in this up to his eye balls for criminal complicity:
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 02:55 PM
Aug 2014

Shiffer, regarded as one of the most informed journalists in Israel, said Netanyahu sought to direct the military in the Gaza war. The prime minister was even said to have selected military targets “according to perceptions that ranged from ‘calm will be met by calm’ to destroy the tunnels.’ ”

I can think of more than a few agencies that want to know which ones.

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