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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:06 PM Aug 2014

Breaking: James Brady's death ruled a homicide 33 years after shooting


http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Jim-Brady-Death-Was-a-Homicide-DC-Medical-Examiner-Rules-270522411.html

The death of James Brady -- President Ronald Reagan's press secretary who was wounded in the attempt on Reagan's life in March 1981 -- was a homicide, the medical examiner for the Northern District of Virginia ruled Friday.

The medical examiner said Brady died as a result of the grievous injuries he suffered 33 years ago, which means that gunman John Hinckley Jr. could be charged with Brady's murder.


I've never heard of a 33 year span between the event and an eventual homicide resulting from said event. Not advocating a position, just putting the news out there.
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Breaking: James Brady's death ruled a homicide 33 years after shooting (Original Post) NightWatcher Aug 2014 OP
Wow. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #1
That's how it is. My vet friend just died, at 67 from homicide. bullet paralyzed him in VietNam. TheNutcracker Aug 2014 #27
Is there a certain number of years that can pass to where someone cannot be charged with a crime? Rex Aug 2014 #2
There is no statute of limitation on murder N/T. Revanchist Aug 2014 #4
Thank you. nt. Rex Aug 2014 #7
Well it's seven years in FLA..i thought that was a federal law. Seven years. TheNutcracker Aug 2014 #28
Do you have a link for that? Revanchist Aug 2014 #29
There's no statute of limitations on murder NightWatcher Aug 2014 #5
Same here, 33 years is a long time. Rex Aug 2014 #10
i don't think you need to be there for them to indict you. unblock Aug 2014 #18
Hiding was a bad example. Lets say it wasn't solved for a number of years instead NightWatcher Aug 2014 #20
that would work. if there's a statute of limitations. unblock Aug 2014 #24
i don't think that would apply if the crime took 33 years to play out. unblock Aug 2014 #14
Not on murder. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #31
i would probably support this, brady's entire life was changed forever JI7 Aug 2014 #3
my Mom was Brady's Nanny many years ago! bettyellen Aug 2014 #6
did she ever get in contact with him again ? JI7 Aug 2014 #19
Oh gosh no, that was not "her place", and Mom would never dare. She was a poor immigrant, and a bettyellen Aug 2014 #30
No question that severe brain injuries shorten life span. nt BootinUp Aug 2014 #8
It is what it is. n/t eShirl Aug 2014 #9
I don't see how there can be any criminal culpability. Loudly Aug 2014 #11
I doubt he was tried for 1st degree murder on Brady though... JCMach1 Aug 2014 #13
Yep. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #16
That's true, because Brady didn't die. Loudly Aug 2014 #25
He wasn't tried for the murder. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #32
precisely JCMach1 Aug 2014 #38
I wonder if insurance pays differently. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #12
I wouldn't think after the incident he could get a full life insurance policy. tammywammy Aug 2014 #17
He might have been well insured before the shooting and kept up with it. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #23
Too bad, the Brady family was not able to sue the gun manufacturer. nt madinmaryland Aug 2014 #37
That means Hinckley can be prosecuted for his death. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #15
presumably it would result in the same insanity outcome. unblock Aug 2014 #21
Maybe not, but it would be a long shot. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #22
I assume it would be a state prosecutor making the decision. Loudly Aug 2014 #26
No--it would be a federal prosecutor, since the underlying act took place while he msanthrope Aug 2014 #33
They could prosecute him if they wanted to. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2014 #34
I do not understand what the OP means but I remember a song abour the soldiers who died of jwirr Aug 2014 #35
michael skakel was charged in 2002 for a 1975 Saphire Aug 2014 #36
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
27. That's how it is. My vet friend just died, at 67 from homicide. bullet paralyzed him in VietNam.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 07:03 PM
Aug 2014

When you finally die from it...it's always listed as homicide. Shocking when I first saw it. But it makes sense now. A bullet got him, and it was one thing after another. gallbladder, kidney, etc. Finally he passed at 67. His cause of death on certificate says "homicide". It was that first and final bullet that caused all the maladies until it finally did him in.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
2. Is there a certain number of years that can pass to where someone cannot be charged with a crime?
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:09 PM
Aug 2014

What say you DU lawyers?

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. There's no statute of limitations on murder
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:12 PM
Aug 2014

I thought that was if you killed a guy on Monday and went into hiding for 70 years you could still be charged with murder after they captured you. I have heard of murder charges coming a few weeks to months after an attack led to death, but nothing like 33 years.

unblock

(52,116 posts)
18. i don't think you need to be there for them to indict you.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:24 PM
Aug 2014

so i don't think you can hide to avoid any applicable statute of limitations.

if they don't indict you, though, then yeah, that could work (although not in this case if there is no statute of limitations for murder in that jurisdiction).

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
6. my Mom was Brady's Nanny many years ago!
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:12 PM
Aug 2014

When he was shot, she exclaimed "Oh poor little Jimmy!", and I said , because sh'd never mentioned it, or him, before.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
19. did she ever get in contact with him again ?
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:25 PM
Aug 2014

i will always admire him for his work to get gun control .

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
30. Oh gosh no, that was not "her place", and Mom would never dare. She was a poor immigrant, and a
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 07:13 PM
Aug 2014

live in servant for quite a few wealthy families when she first came here. She did say he was a very nice boy though!

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
11. I don't see how there can be any criminal culpability.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:14 PM
Aug 2014

Hinckley was tried and found not guilty by reason of insanity.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
13. I doubt he was tried for 1st degree murder on Brady though...
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:17 PM
Aug 2014

It gives prosecutors some options...

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
25. That's true, because Brady didn't die.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:55 PM
Aug 2014

But it seems like blatant double jeopardy to try him again for acts he has already been adjudged not responsible for committing.

I do understand a ruling of homicide by the ME, though.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
17. I wouldn't think after the incident he could get a full life insurance policy.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:21 PM
Aug 2014

Since he had such a preexisting condition.

aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
23. He might have been well insured before the shooting and kept up with it.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:37 PM
Aug 2014

Just thinking out loud. I'm no expert

unblock

(52,116 posts)
21. presumably it would result in the same insanity outcome.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:28 PM
Aug 2014

i'm not sure that the feds gain anything by pursuing this in terms of what they can do to hinkley.
i think it would be all just a big gesture toward a widely-admired washington figure.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
22. Maybe not, but it would be a long shot.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:29 PM
Aug 2014

It would require an extremely zealous prosecutor to bring it before the bar.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
26. I assume it would be a state prosecutor making the decision.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 07:01 PM
Aug 2014

Federal jurisdiction probably ended when Brady ceased to be an employee.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1114

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
33. No--it would be a federal prosecutor, since the underlying act took place while he
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 07:27 PM
Aug 2014

was a federal employee.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
35. I do not understand what the OP means but I remember a song abour the soldiers who died of
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 09:03 PM
Aug 2014

Agent Orange that talked about them being killed when they were infected in Vietnam. Yet they lived for some time after the war. It was a folk song and a war protest.

Possibly the person who is using the term regarding the death of James Brady means that he was wounded and died of those wounds many years later. Like the song.

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