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sheshe2

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Fri Aug 8, 2014, 07:25 PM Aug 2014

the difference between barack obama and george w bush

By Liberal Librarian

Last night President Barack Obama announced that he had ordered airstrikes against ISIL positions in northern Iraq.

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Of course, ISIL is a direct result of the chaos unleashed by former president George W. Bush in 2003 with his invasion of Iraq. No, I’m not carrying water for Saddam Hussein. He was a murderous, psychopathic dictator. However, he maintained a level of stability via his terror. The Bush Administration had no plan for what would replace Saddam, Donald Rumsfeld famously saying that US troops would be out of Iraq within six months. Six months turned into seven years, while Mr. Bush’s best and brightest were found out to be the worst and dullest, fumbling around for one solution after another which never worked out. The solution finally decided upon—the regime of Nouri Al-Maliki and his Shi’ite maximalists—was probably the worst possible choice. Replacing a Sunni dictatorship with a Shi’a dictatorship proved not only hypocritical, but suicidal. Mr. al-Maliki, for all his venality, hasn’t been able to project the terror which Saddam did to keep the various sects in line. And the Iraq invasion unleashed all sorts of ethnic and confessional demands. But most importantly, al Qaeda, which had never been in Iraq or the greater Middle East before 2003, suddenly found purchase amidst the chaos. Mr. Bush’s lie that the US invaded Iraq to fight AQ became true after the hornet’s nest he stirred up. ISIL is a direct descendant of those first AQ cadres. So, as with our support of Mujahedeen in Afghanistan in the 1980s leading to the formation of al Qaeda, our invasion of Iraq has led to predictable blowback in the form of ISIL.

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Every time Mr. Bush had the chance to do the right thing in response to the 9/11 attacks, he chose to fulfill neo-conservative wet dreams of remaking the Middle East in America’s image, and subservient to US interests. And he never seemed to be bothered by the thousands of people—Americans and Iraqis—he sent to death.

Pres. Obama is quite different.

As far back as 2004 he was making his opposition to the Iraq adventure known, at a time when it was still quite popular among the public. He foresaw the possible blowback—blowback with which he now has to deal as president.

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the difference between barack obama and george w bush (Original Post) sheshe2 Aug 2014 OP
Obama declared victory in 2011. former9thward Aug 2014 #1
I voted for Obama for precisely this reason. msanthrope Aug 2014 #2

former9thward

(31,984 posts)
1. Obama declared victory in 2011.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 07:32 PM
Aug 2014

He said "We’re Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq." There was no victory and Iraq was not stable or self-reliant. The same thing will happen when/if we leave Afghanistan.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
2. I voted for Obama for precisely this reason.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 07:33 PM
Aug 2014

I voted for Obama because I knew that when the assholes of the world brought the crazy, he wouldn't handle it by getting us into another useless, horrible war dictated by PNAC.

Obama's just cleaning up more of Bush's shit.

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