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marble falls

(57,009 posts)
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 12:48 PM Aug 2014

I had breakast with two local Teaparty officials who brought up a black only dinner .....

where he President (referred to as "Obama&quot admitted he was Kenyan and that reporters from Fox, CNN and the NYT were harassed into giving up recordings and notes about this surprising admission. They told me that it was on the National Report web site that when they went back to it the site was jammed and that when she tried the NYT site she couldn't get on, either.

I went home and searched National Report.

National Report
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Colombian singles chart, see National-Report.

National Report (nationalreport.net) is a satirical website. It is published by Allen Montgomery.[1]

Among headline-generating spoofs are:

a report that Arizona's governor Jan Brewer intended to introduce mandatory gay-to-straight conversion courses into the state's public school system[2]
a report that fooled researchers at Fox News Channel, in which the President was purported to have announced his intention to spend his own money to keep a Muslim museum open during a government shutdown.[3]
a report that that a man in Hanna, Wyoming was the first recipient of a RFID chip which, the report claimed, was part of an Obamacare pilot program.[1]
a report published on November 2, 2013 claiming a fictitious Assam Rape Festival created a furor in Indian national and local media. Several newspapers and blogs reported the same.[4][5][6]
a report that an invasion of illegal immigrants forcibly took control of the small town of Sarita, Texas.[7]
a report published July 15th, 20014 claiming that Canadian pop star Justin Bieber would feature on a song on British rock band Radiohead's next album.[8]
a report published July 19th, 2014 claiming a secret service agent was ordered by Obama to spend $4,000 at a Denver, Colorado marijuana dispensary.[8]

Paul Horner

The character Paul Horner is used in various stories as a running gag.[9]


Hilarity will ensue when I get to point out they were snooked. Again.

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I had breakast with two local Teaparty officials who brought up a black only dinner ..... (Original Post) marble falls Aug 2014 OP
Can't wait to hear their reactions Populist_Prole Aug 2014 #1
You do realize that they won't believe you. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2014 #2
you are sick!! Laf.La.Dem. Aug 2014 #3
WRONG!!! ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY DO take advantage of these "poor people"!!! calimary Aug 2014 #15
well rushbo rafeh1 Aug 2014 #24
Welcome to DU, rafeh1! calimary Aug 2014 #32
They've already been taken advantage of and it would appear, willingly. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #17
Reptiles are easy to fool! RKP5637 Aug 2014 #4
That's the new way to cover up stories jberryhill Aug 2014 #5
I'm so glad you explained this to us. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #10
Nice try, "jberryhill" (if that IS your real handle) gratuitous Aug 2014 #23
I have to wonder, and I say this as a relative to some hollysmom Aug 2014 #6
Do you have a portable device that hooks to the web? jmowreader Aug 2014 #7
They'd probably like it. drm604 Aug 2014 #9
100? Must be one for each FEMA detention camp. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #12
You want to process 50 clients at a time, use the squasher thing at the end csziggy Aug 2014 #18
Lately there's been a proliferation of these stupid satirical websites. drm604 Aug 2014 #8
The primary difference being hifiguy Aug 2014 #14
I know. drm604 Aug 2014 #19
So some Tea partiers wer snooked? christx30 Aug 2014 #11
These days you need to walk around the Intertubes hifiguy Aug 2014 #13
Baggers don't actually care if something is true or not nxylas Aug 2014 #16
Charles Pierce has codified the Three Laws of Idiocy in modern America hifiguy Aug 2014 #20
Have some mercuryblues Aug 2014 #21
I've see more than one of these getting passed around ThoughtCriminal Aug 2014 #22
No, neeeveeer. marble falls Aug 2014 #25
The bad thing is, I can't find a disclaimer on their site. OneGrassRoot Aug 2014 #26
I half agree. But what got me when I first heard it, it didn't pass the duck test..... marble falls Aug 2014 #28
True. In fact, Fox fell for one of their posts: OneGrassRoot Aug 2014 #29
Anything anyone gives me that has no source and is sensational gets looked at hard.... marble falls Aug 2014 #30
Satire eludes numbskulls Generic Brad Aug 2014 #27
Doesn't take much for the TP to run with anything which sounds bad about Obama. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #31

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
1. Can't wait to hear their reactions
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 12:56 PM
Aug 2014

Then again, they'll probably look, or more likely act nonplussed. They'll extricate themselves like the slippery eels they are and move right on to the next talking point in their little satchels of bullshit.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,517 posts)
2. You do realize that they won't believe you.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 12:57 PM
Aug 2014

They've bought into this so much that it would kill them to admit they were wrong.

Good luck!


calimary

(81,107 posts)
15. WRONG!!! ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY DO take advantage of these "poor people"!!!
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 03:59 PM
Aug 2014

Take 'em! Got a bridge to nowhere you can pitch to 'em? You might even make some money off it/them. TAKE 'EM!!!!! If they'll believe satire and don't bother to look at other sources, or take in other input that shows this is satire, or that dispels the nonsense - and then they won't adjust their thinking accordingly - then TAKE 'EM. They're little more than low-hanging fruit just begging either to be picked and bitten into, or destined to fall to the ground and rot (or chewed on by rats and/or overrun by ants).

I mean - I myself saw a satire piece here on DU a few days back, that I took seriously for a few moments until I read further and considered the comments and the wisdom of others who'd already debunked it when I hadn't had the time to dig deeper. So THAT taken into account, do you think for a minute I still cling to any serious consideration of the original satire? Still gonna believe it anyway? Don't think so! I changed my views accordingly and snickered at the original satire, and at myself. These idiots don't seem able to do that - although I will assert also that I don't know how this ends. I'd be interested to see what their reaction is when presented with the fact of this source being satire.

I am MOST interested to see whether, faced with information that refutes their already-built-in beliefs, they decide to change or update their thinking a little. Or, are they SO deeply and resolutely invested in the falsehood that for whatever reason they just can't bring themselves to change or update their opinions? We already have a template for that - in the climate change deniers. And in the Barack Obama wasn't born in America department. And more. Those who continue to insist that this nation is center-"right" when, on the issues, it is repeatedly and demonstrably proven to be ANYTHING BUT. So I don't have much hope for these people. Inflexible thinking. And I guess I find myself using the word "thinking" guardedly and with hesitation - as it applies to people like these.

When you find out you're wrong, what do you do?
A) Attack or keep questioning the new information that proves you wrong?
B) Or embrace it and enlarge and update your thinking?
C) Or do you go so far as even to admit you were - or might possibly be - wrong?

I have found that the other side is rather crippled and growth-stunted on two out of three of these counts. I don't see a ONE of them, when confronted with the facts, start to change their thinking. Not ONE. They tend merely to gravitate toward exercising that term that was always used, ad nauseam, to describe what dubya did on messes like Iraq: "double down." MAN am I sick of that phrase. It's never ended well, or wisely, that I've seen anyway.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. That's the new way to cover up stories
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 01:06 PM
Aug 2014

Whenever the main stream media publishes a story that the conspiracy wants covered up, they know that people will remember the story anyway.

So, what they do is they have the story erased and then put on so-called "satire news" sites.

That way, if people spread the story believing it to be true, it can be "debunked" as having been "satire".

Haven't you noticed how there are people who intentionally seed internet forums with "joke news stories" so that people will get used to the idea that the news they thought they heard might have been a joke.

It's all part of the plan to cover up things like the 1968 World Series, "New Coke", and Obama's real parents and birthplace.

...and by "Obama" I mean the one that actually runs the Office of President, not the double who is used for making speeches and public appearances. You can tell them apart by which one has the scar on his scalp, which may have been some kind of brain surgery or a neuro-control implant of some kind.

I shit you not: http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/obamas-movable-features-his-newest-scar-open-thread/

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. Nice try, "jberryhill" (if that IS your real handle)
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 10:34 PM
Aug 2014

But all the right people know that it was the 1969 World Series - not the 1968 Series - that had the cover-up. You almost got away with it . . .

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
6. I have to wonder, and I say this as a relative to some
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 01:12 PM
Aug 2014

Where are their ****** brains??????? edited to clean up language, I tend to get carried away

The idiocy I hear out of people's mouths and then they stare at you when you point out how stupid it is. I am not allowed to say anything political at my brother's house because they say I get too emotional - to me it is not emotional but embarrassed to be related to them as I point out re searchable facts to the stupidity of what they say or sometimes I just point out the contradictions - like if you support the KKK, you do realize they go after Catholics as well as blacks - right? I knowI have more education than my brother, but he has been alive almost as long as me, he should have a modicum of common sense - not to mention that our father was a local union president for most of brother's young life and a democratic volunteer as well. If there was a cause, Dad was there, unfortunately the Union was late for the war in Vietnam, they got there but not early enough to stop several arguments in the house about me and protests. And also Brother is anti-union and sinking fast with his factory jobs.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
7. Do you have a portable device that hooks to the web?
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 03:09 PM
Aug 2014

Show them the Onion's "head ripping off execution machine" video and tell them Obama has ordered 100 of them.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
12. 100? Must be one for each FEMA detention camp.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 03:50 PM
Aug 2014

Some say with the optional loader/unloader that a "head ripper offer" can process 50 to 60 "clients" per hour.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
18. You want to process 50 clients at a time, use the squasher thing at the end
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 04:09 PM
Aug 2014

It'd be way more efficient!



drm604

(16,230 posts)
8. Lately there's been a proliferation of these stupid satirical websites.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 03:22 PM
Aug 2014

The Onion has been around a long time and should be obvious, but some of these new sites aren't so obvious at first glance. They end up leading to a lot of confusion.

I've seen long threads on DU of people who were taken in by one of their stories.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
14. The primary difference being
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 03:58 PM
Aug 2014

that your typical DUer responds appropriately to being shown extrinsic evidence that something is a hoax or a joke. The dopes double down on believing in it even after the falsity has been shown.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
19. I know.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 04:27 PM
Aug 2014

I wasn't criticizing DUers. I was criticizing these stupid websites. They're spreading all kinds of disinformation.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. These days you need to walk around the Intertubes
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 03:57 PM
Aug 2014

with Poe's Law at the front of the old bean at all times. Reichwingers are so incredibly gullible they can fall for anything. Which is one of the main reasons they are reichwingers.

Gads, people are dumb, and they're getting dumber every second.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
16. Baggers don't actually care if something is true or not
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 04:04 PM
Aug 2014

Or rather, they have a different definition of truth to those of us in the reality-based community. For them, something is "true" if it fits their cult's approved narratives and "false" if it doesn't. Facts and evidence are merely part of the liberal conspiracy.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
20. Charles Pierce has codified the Three Laws of Idiocy in modern America
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 04:43 PM
Aug 2014

1. Any theory is valid if it sells books, soaks up ratings, or otherwise moves units.

2. Fact is that which enough people believe. Truth is determined by how fervently they believe it.

3. Anything can be true if someone says it loudly enough.

They are quite literally the governing principles of modern mass culture, especially on the right.

mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
21. Have some
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 05:04 PM
Aug 2014

fun with them, before you tell them the truth. This is another story from the website. A favorite for the gullible to buy into.

http://nationalreport.net/rfid-chip-now-being-issued-in-hanna-wyoming-as-part-of-new-obamacare-plan/

(Hanna, WY) – The “Obamacare” RFID chips are currently being given a test run on the proud and patriotic citizens of Hanna, Wyoming. Over the last two weeks a special piece of legislation has been passed making it mandatory for anyone who receives welfare or any other form of government assistance to be implanted with these new identification chips. Even select government employees and officials have been ordered to receive the sub-dermal device, which is typically implanted in the fatty tissue of the individual’s buttock. Police officers, military, even garbage men will all be required to have the RFID chip by the end of next month or face termination from their jobs. - See more at: http://nationalreport.net/rfid-chip-now-being-issued-in-hanna-wyoming-as-part-of-new-obamacare-plan/#sthash.1REoZwHu.dpuf

ThoughtCriminal

(14,046 posts)
22. I've see more than one of these getting passed around
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 10:26 PM
Aug 2014

and believed by tea-baggers.

Of course - that NEVER happens here...

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
26. The bad thing is, I can't find a disclaimer on their site.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 08:53 AM
Aug 2014

They are mentioned in many places online as being satire, and at some point they evidently had a disclaimer -- though very, very hard to find -- but I can't find a disclaimer now.

That's dangerous, especially when so many people truly can't tell the difference between fact and satire any more, not only because they don't investigate themselves but because the "real" news seems filled with absurdity nowadays.

Edit to add: After researching a bit, there are many sites -- including snopes -- which have documented the evolution of nationalreport.net. They used to have a visible disclaimer...then they buried it, but it was there...and now they've removed all reference to it being a satire/fiction site altogether.

That's scary.

marble falls

(57,009 posts)
28. I half agree. But what got me when I first heard it, it didn't pass the duck test.....
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 09:47 AM
Aug 2014

Fox would NEVER go along with sitting on an Obama Kenya birth statement.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
29. True. In fact, Fox fell for one of their posts:
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 10:24 AM
Aug 2014

Fox & Friends Saturday criticized President Obama for offering to personally pay for a "museum of Muslim culture" during the government shutdown, a claim that originated from a satire website.

On October 5, the co-hosts of Fox & Friends Saturday discussed the closure of the World War II Memorial, which resulted from the Republican-led shutdown. During the discussion, co-host Anna Kooiman claimed that while the memorial is closed, "President Obama has offered to pay out of his own pocket for the museum of Muslim culture."

Unfortunately for Kooiman, the claim that Obama offered to pay out of pocket for a "museum of Muslim culture" originated from the satirical website the National Report. As the fact-checking site Snopes.com points out, a now-removed disclaimer on the National Report noted: "National Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within National Report are fiction, and presumably fake news."

Fox has a history of passing off satirical stories as actual news.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/05/fox-falls-for-fake-story-about-obama-personally/196304


I don't take any articles seriously unless there are links to original sources. Too much BS floating around out there.

marble falls

(57,009 posts)
30. Anything anyone gives me that has no source and is sensational gets looked at hard....
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 10:28 AM
Aug 2014

particularly if its from a local Teabilly or Teapublican. And if it is widespread but from only one source, the source gets looked t hard.

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
27. Satire eludes numbskulls
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 09:43 AM
Aug 2014

There is always going to be a swath of the population who have faulty bullshit sectors too. They are not all Tea Partiers, but the Tea Party does seem to be overly represented among them.

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