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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 11:20 AM Aug 2014

Copenhagen’s newest bike lane totally rules

By Madeleine Thomas

In Copenhagen, where bicycles outnumber people and nearly 40 percent of residents cycle to work, bike-friendly infrastructure is key.

But, even though more than 200 miles of bike lanes wind throughout Copenhagen, congestion is a common issue. The city is home to the world’s busiest bike lane, on which up to 40,000 cyclists travel daily.


The Cykelslangen (soo-cool-klag-en), or Cycle Snake, the city’s newest elevated skyway designed exclusively for cyclists, should help keep bike traffic moving smoothly, Wired reports:

“Underneath, there’s a harbor front, so there are slow moving-pedestrians,” says Mikael Colville-Anderson, CEO of Copanhagenize, a Danish design company. “It wasn’t a smooth commute for the cyclists. The people on bikes want to get home and the pedestrians want to saunter.” Pedestrian-cyclist conflict was never an issue, but cyclists couldn’t pedal at a constant speed, and they had to deal with stairways. The new roadway, which runs one story above the ground, lets them move without interruption. At just over 13 feet wide, there’s plenty of room to pass even a double-wide cargo bike.


At roughly 700 feet long, it will only take most cyclists less than a minute to traverse the Cykelslangen, but props to Copenhagen for building another bike path that’s practical and beautiful to boot.

http://grist.org/list/copenhagens-newest-bike-lane-totally-rules/
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Copenhagen’s newest bike lane totally rules (Original Post) n2doc Aug 2014 OP
k&r Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #1
Bicycling would be so much nicer if I didn't have to worry about automobiles. hunter Aug 2014 #2
Smart urban planning. Love it. AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #3
we could live like this in the US, if so many didn't believe a military presence spanning the globe KG Aug 2014 #4
Looks like it could handle my adult trike too. CK_John Aug 2014 #5
That's what bike lanes should look like. But we don't have enough bikeriders to JDPriestly Aug 2014 #6
No. They all got mowed down by cars. That's why we don't have more bikeriders. loudsue Aug 2014 #8
A sad fact but true BobbyBoring Aug 2014 #21
We have them in my area of Los Angeles, but we still don't have bike riders. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #31
the idea that only the need for something lunatica Aug 2014 #11
The literature shows that making bike-friendly roads and paths increases ridership. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #16
Work and climate restrict that, too. Fawke Em Aug 2014 #14
Even here in hilly SF -- Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2014 #17
That's what happens in progressive areas. BobbyBoring Aug 2014 #22
That's cool, and I fully support it... TlalocW Aug 2014 #7
Nah. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #28
Now all they need is one that has a slight downhill slope going the other way. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #9
We were in Copenhagen in June. It was amazing to see so few cars on the street mnhtnbb Aug 2014 #10
Do they ride them in winter too? B Calm Aug 2014 #12
I would imagine so. mnhtnbb Aug 2014 #13
Yes they do tkmorris Aug 2014 #15
Yes, I was there in December and they were everywhere BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #23
Dallas, of course, would make this a Toll Lane. I say "whatever it takes" misterhighwasted Aug 2014 #18
Wouldn't orange cones blend in with that color of bikeway? KansDem Aug 2014 #19
Danish citizens not only have rights malaise Aug 2014 #20
They pay for them in high taxes BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #24
My oldest sibling has lived there malaise Aug 2014 #29
I would move there BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #30
Copenhagen rules. moondust Aug 2014 #25
We could use bike lanes like this. Archae Aug 2014 #26
In Los Angeles, bike riders run stop signs and lights all the time. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #32
But - but - slow drivers are the most dangerous people in the world! JackRiddler Aug 2014 #27

hunter

(38,302 posts)
2. Bicycling would be so much nicer if I didn't have to worry about automobiles.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 12:19 PM
Aug 2014

That bikeway is beautiful.

KG

(28,751 posts)
4. we could live like this in the US, if so many didn't believe a military presence spanning the globe
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 12:28 PM
Aug 2014

was a necessary function

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. That's what bike lanes should look like. But we don't have enough bikeriders to
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 12:48 PM
Aug 2014

warrant the expense -- yet. Maybe the next generation will ride bikes more.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
8. No. They all got mowed down by cars. That's why we don't have more bikeriders.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 12:59 PM
Aug 2014

Now, if we had bike lanes, we probably wouldn't be #1 in the world in obesity, too!

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
21. A sad fact but true
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:24 PM
Aug 2014

I know 4 people that have been killed on bikes the last being hit by a bus. I will only ride on trails with no cars.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
31. We have them in my area of Los Angeles, but we still don't have bike riders.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 05:14 PM
Aug 2014

Bikes are useless for mothers and fathers of toddlers who need to take them shopping and to day care and to the doctors. Bikes are useless for most elderly people. With the exception for recreational use, they are also useless for people in professions like lawyers who have to be in court early in the morning with ties, suit jackets, etc. In Los Angeles, I did not want my children riding bikes -- too dangerous for many reasons including the hills and the heat in the summer.

But bike lanes that are separate from cars, really separate like the one in the picture would work.

The bike lanes we have are not really safe. They make it hard for the drivers of cars to make turns. Drivers are confused by them. Bikes themselves are yet another distraction for car drivers.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
11. the idea that only the need for something
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:14 PM
Aug 2014

creates it's solution could be used to never build cars because who needed them? But the fact is that building cars actually changed our entire country, starting with a basic infrastructure and continuing on to the every basic things that depend on transportation. Suburbs are a concept that came into the American way of thinking and building because of the invention of cars. the dots to connect have grown exponentially into a myriad of different directions and inventions in little over 100 years.

I think the implementation of elevated lanes for bicycles would make many more people prefer to bike to work or anyplace else. At 66 years old I have to drive to my job 13 miles away, but I have to take the freeway. Even if I could take a bicycle the 6 miles to the closest BART station to get to work by rail I think there are times I would do it. Certainly people who are younger and more fit that I am would do it.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
16. The literature shows that making bike-friendly roads and paths increases ridership.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:26 PM
Aug 2014

Here's one link
http://cleantechnica.com/2014/06/09/us-bike-ridership-surges-protected-bike-lanes-study/


I have friends and acquaintances (yes, some your age) who commute to BART by bike or otherwise split the commute between biking and driving.
Six miles on a bike is a pleasant ride if there are bike lanes and the grade changes aren't severe.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
14. Work and climate restrict that, too.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:21 PM
Aug 2014

Most women can't bike to work in this country because they wouldn't look very professional when they got to work (wet, stringy hair, no place to shower/clean up).

If I tried to bike anywhere between May and October, I'd stink to high heaven and look like hell when I got there.

Does anyone know if, in places like Copenhagen, most work places have a place to clean up once you get to work?

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
17. Even here in hilly SF --
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:38 PM
Aug 2014

biking has become huge. We have created a huge network of bikes lanes that go into all areas of the City and can lead you right into downtown. We also have a bike share program where you can pick up a bike at one location ad drop if off at another. The more we have created the space for bikes the more the population has responded.


BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
22. That's what happens in progressive areas.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:29 PM
Aug 2014

Progress! I don't know why so many idiots I'm Americas hate that.
How are those bikes to ride? They don't look like hill climbers to me.

TlalocW

(15,374 posts)
7. That's cool, and I fully support it...
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 12:58 PM
Aug 2014

And I'm sure Copenhagenites are very good bike drivers, but I look at that and see myself on it for several minutes of sheer terror before I do something wrong and am knocked over the guardrail into the canal.

TlalocW

mnhtnbb

(31,373 posts)
10. We were in Copenhagen in June. It was amazing to see so few cars on the street
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:13 PM
Aug 2014

and the numbers of bikes. Great bike lanes. And as a pedestrian, you really have to watch
out for the bikes.

Most amazing bike line up I saw was near a metro station. Here's all the bikes locked up.
Bike to metro...public transit to work.

mnhtnbb

(31,373 posts)
13. I would imagine so.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:19 PM
Aug 2014

One of my sons was in Copenhagen in December a couple of years ago and I was surprised
to learn how temperate the weather was at the time. Possibly being right on the water
keeps it warmer than it would be inland.

http://www.worldweatheronline.com/Copenhagen-weather-averages/Hovedstaden/DK.aspx


(the range of highs in December from -2 to 5 degrees Celsius converts to 28.5 to 40 degrees F)

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
19. Wouldn't orange cones blend in with that color of bikeway?
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:43 PM
Aug 2014

I mean, if you're the governor and want political favors from the mayor who refuses and you decide to block bike traffic with orange cones in retaliation, the cones will blend in with the color of the bikeway and no one would see them.



Then there would be no huge bike jam to get riders angry with the mayor.

Det er tid for noen trafikkproblemer i København!
jeg forstår!

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
24. They pay for them in high taxes
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:48 PM
Aug 2014

My Danish partner always says Americans hate paying taxes because they "don't feel they get anything for them." And while all Danes grumble about their taxes they get: excellent education through university; excellent health care which includes dental; excellent, clean public transport; and a highly literate, generally safe society. Americans feel like their taxes go into a black hole, never to be seen again. And since most of them are sucked up by the Pentagon, that's mostly right.

Their biggest problem is they are going from a very homogenized ethnicity and having severe racial tensions from immigration. There is quite a lot of animosity toward immigrants who are supported by social programs and who do not assimilate. It is a huge point of contention. But for the most part, they're very well off.

malaise

(268,693 posts)
29. My oldest sibling has lived there
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 08:28 PM
Aug 2014

for almost 50 years. Yep they have high taxes but they see the benefits. When I visit they are amazed at how security conscious I am - they don't close windows or doors unless it's cold. I do love Denmark but you're right about some issues with those who don't assimilate.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
30. I would move there
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 08:37 PM
Aug 2014

Except my California blood might not make it through the winters and the language is difficult at best. The only word I can correctly pronounce is rhinoceros. Don't think that would get me too far. But it's a beautiful place to visit!

moondust

(19,958 posts)
25. Copenhagen rules.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:15 PM
Aug 2014

A cyclist myself, one of the things I'll never forget from the first time I was there, in 1975, was all the grandmas on bikes!

Archae

(46,301 posts)
26. We could use bike lanes like this.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:22 PM
Aug 2014

Here in Sheboygan we have dedicated bike lanes on most of the main streets.

BUT...

Just yesterday I stopped at a red light, following traffic, and a kid on a little (BMX?) bicycle nearly hit me, going the wrong way in the wrong direction.
Went right through the red light, nearly getting hit, and nearly hitting me while I was stopped.

Was past me in seconds, so I had no chance to even give him the finger.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
32. In Los Angeles, bike riders run stop signs and lights all the time.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 05:19 PM
Aug 2014

It's terrible. And they do it in dangerous places too.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
27. But - but - slow drivers are the most dangerous people in the world!
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:28 PM
Aug 2014

You will take my accelerator when you pry it from my cold, dead foot.

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