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msongs

(67,361 posts)
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:12 PM Aug 2014

should campaigning be allowed in Hawaii election even tho the outcome is known so far?

in Hawaii, the recent hurricane caused voting to be cancelled in some precincts in the storm zone. The rest of the state voted and now knows the outcome of the already cast votes. There is less than 2000 votes difference between the 2 candidates.

Now the state is sending absentee ballots to voters in the cancelled precincts so those people can vote even though they already know the outcome of the election as of this date.

Both candidates have said they are going to the storm zone to continue campaigning.

So my questions are should they be allowed to keep campaigning after the election results are known so far and should the people who couldn't vote due to the storm still be allowed to vote. There are about 8000 people affected by this.

Seems to me if the state wants to allow additional voting , vote totals should have been kept secret until all the storm people have voted.

your thoughts?

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should campaigning be allowed in Hawaii election even tho the outcome is known so far? (Original Post) msongs Aug 2014 OP
They probably should have left things unannounced Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #1
How could a candidate be prohibited from campaigning? tritsofme Aug 2014 #2
You're assuming the count so far will influence the remaining voters. Demit Aug 2014 #3
So what? Why should they not vote because they know the current totals? Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #4
The election results aren't know... brooklynite Aug 2014 #5

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. They probably should have left things unannounced
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:21 PM
Aug 2014

but even though they've announced what the counts are so far, that's no excuse to deny the remaining people their votes.

tritsofme

(17,371 posts)
2. How could a candidate be prohibited from campaigning?
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:25 PM
Aug 2014

This was definitely poor planning, though in the midst of a natural disaster, on the state's part. But I don't how a candidate could be legally stopped from soliciting votes, so I'm not sure what you are proposing.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
3. You're assuming the count so far will influence the remaining voters.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:31 PM
Aug 2014

I don't see any reason to assume that.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
4. So what? Why should they not vote because they know the current totals?
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 02:41 PM
Aug 2014

You just assert that somehow knowing the current tally invalidates their right to vote, but you make no case for why that should be so.

What is intended to be secret in the "secret ballot" is who *you* voted for, not what the total votes are.

The objections to early predictions in presidential elections wasn't that it would somehow give west coast voters some advantage, it was that it would, in the case of a blowout, discourage them from voting at all - it would effectively disenfranchise them. In the case of a close election it encourages more voter participation, and in my opinion that is a good thing.

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
5. The election results aren't know...
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 05:03 PM
Aug 2014

...the tally of election day votes has been announced, but the results haven't been certified yet. Theoretically, the results could change bease on delayed preceint voting, return of absentee ballots, etc.

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